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Old 05-22-2013, 09:49 PM   #1
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Realalistic numbers with slp tvs2300

I'm very interested in going TT over centri or displacement but am having trouble finding what I want. I'm not looking to spend an excessive amount. I was hoping for something like the IPS tt entry kit but it's not even looking like a eta soon. I may look at agp tuner kit or hellion tuner.


I've seen some great pricing for the slp tvs2300 old style which I like the whine ability of the displacement. For some reason centri just does not excite me.

I have a 2012 SS ls3 what would it take to achieve 600-640 ish rwhp? Also getting to this number I don't want to run into driving issues or belt problems. Ive had a turbo setup before but never displacement so they may not be issues. It just feels to me like a tt kit gets you to over 600 without any other mods where I see people with tvs2300's and they already spent money on headers intake and pulley etc still posting some unimpressive numbers.

Any input from you guys would be great. I'm not at this point expecting to ever push past 650 because im not going to build to the point of needing tranny and half the car built for more hp.

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Old 05-22-2013, 10:26 PM   #2
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I realize you said a centri doesn't excite you but they will get you to your goal easily. Take a look through some of the centri builds threads and you will find many more over 600rwhp than under.

I wasn't keen on the centri either but I was given a deal too good to pass up. I am glad I didn't. People say centris don't make low end... I have no problem spinning my tires if I want to.

Also, most people don't stop. Once they make their goal, they want more.

It has been said on here many times if you can find someone in your area with each of the different FI setups, take rides in them and see which you like best. I believe regardless of which route you ultimately decide, you are looking at $6K+.

I have nothing against PD blowers or turbos... In fact, I am seriously thinking my next iteration will be twins.
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:02 PM   #3
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Thanks, ya I'm hoping to get into my next camaro club day in my area. I also forgot to mention this would strictly be for street fun. If later a centri attracts me more I would guess the ECS kit would be my pref although I feel they have a odd/small intercooler. Maybe I should not pass up on a PD blower yet since I'm aimed at street use. I would guess a decent amount would be low/mid highway speed playing.
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:13 PM   #4
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Obviously, if you can find a turbo/pd/centri car all around 600rwhp that would be the best comparison for you.

I have ridden in a turbo car that made similar power to mine. When the turbo "hit" the tires just spun and that was at 80mph because the power came on so suddenly. The dyno graph for the HP it made was damn near vertical when the power came on. My centri graph was just an upward sloping line.
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Old 05-23-2013, 01:00 AM   #5
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Obviously, if you can find a turbo/pd/centri car all around 600rwhp that would be the best comparison for you.

I have ridden in a turbo car that made similar power to mine. When the turbo "hit" the tires just spun and that was at 80mph because the power came on so suddenly. The dyno graph for the HP it made was damn near vertical when the power came on. My centri graph was just an upward sloping line.
Which one was better?
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Old 05-23-2013, 06:23 AM   #6
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I have the New TVS2300, and with just a supercharger install, nothing else. I put down 502RWHP. So with that said, headers, tune, CAI and smaller pulley i would be around 575RWHP, a Cam and fuel managment would jump you to around 650RWHP.

But i have seen some kits, like the ECS Kit make close to 600rwhp without some of those major mods.

The whipple, being bigger would get you to your number easier, but you would get to your number cheaper with some of those bigger SC or a twin Turbo.

My overall goal is the 650rwhp mark so this supercharger is perfect for me when i pull the trigger on all the other supporting mods.
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Old 05-23-2013, 06:56 AM   #7
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I have the New TVS2300, and with just a supercharger install, nothing else. I put down 502RWHP. So with that said, headers, tune, CAI and smaller pulley i would be around 575RWHP, a Cam and fuel managment would jump you to around 650RWHP.

But i have seen some kits, like the ECS Kit make close to 600rwhp without some of those major mods.

The whipple, being bigger would get you to your number easier, but you would get to your number cheaper with some of those bigger SC or a twin Turbo.

My overall goal is the 650rwhp mark so this supercharger is perfect for me when i pull the trigger on all the other supporting mods.
I'm looking at going this route as well. I haven't done a lot of research on FI but it seems the TVS2300 is great setup and price is hard to beat.

My car already has blower cam and all the other normal bolt ons... so with the supercharger I'm hoping for 600+ to the wheels.

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I'm looking at going this route as well. I haven't done a lot of research on FI but it seems the TVS2300 is great setup and price is hard to beat.

My car already has blower cam and all the other normal bolt ons... so with the supercharger I'm hoping for 600+ to the wheels.

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With a cam already, headers cai, tune you will be 650ish rwhp. Your good to go!
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:29 AM   #9
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Hrm.. Food for thought I guess I'll put some numbers together. I found the old tvs2300 for 5200 but adding header,CAI,cam,etc etc puts the price up real quick. A ecs kit can be had for 6. Can the tvs2300 just have a smaller pulley run without all the other mods or does it just not perform well enough to matter without them? I do like the whipple but having a hard time finding them for anywhere near the price.
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From what I've read the ecs kit seems to make the most power with the least amount of supporting mods and total amount of money to get you there.
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Old 05-23-2013, 08:05 AM   #11
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Oh and also I have no idea what a twin turbo system compared to superchargers would do for power compared to price, I knew I wanted a supercharger and never glanced at turbo systems.

So maybe someone else can chime in with turbo prices compared to rwhp
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And one more thing, my primary reason I went with the new tvs 2300 was the optional power train warranty that came with it. 3 year 36k fully covered. There are a lot of fine print on how to get it but that's one of the main reasons.

Otherwise I was looking at the whopper or ecs kit.
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Which one was better?
Centri because it was pulling harder. The turbo car was spinning and therefore, didn't feel as fast. If it were able to hook, I think it would have felt similar or possibly even faster because the sudden power increase.
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Old 05-23-2013, 08:29 AM   #14
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I was in the same boat and hell bent on a TT set up, until I got an absolutely unbeatable price for the Vortech Kit. And I LOVE it...The centri has similar characteristics of a turbo but belt driven. If I had to do it again I would go with the ECS kit since they are the shop that did all the work to my car and I did not know about them until after I picked up my Vortech kit. Out of the box with the canned tune I was at 515 to the wheels, with headers, pulley, and Meth Kit from ECS I am at 658 RWHP and almost 600 RWTRQ.
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And one more thing, my primary reason I went with the new tvs 2300 was the optional power train warranty that came with it. 3 year 36k fully covered. There are a lot of fine print on how to get it but that's one of the main reasons.

Otherwise I was looking at the whopper or ecs kit.
How much is that warranty if you don't mind me asking. I seen those offers but obviously theres no pricing attached. I'm not too concerned with warranty but it may be worth it.

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Read the fine print. After I did, I decided the extended warranty wasn't for me. It would cost more to install, tune and would be voided if any other mods were done, like headers and exhaust.
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Read the fine print. After I did, I decided the extended warranty wasn't for me. It would cost more to install, tune and would be voided if any other mods were done, like headers and exhaust.
Well... I'll be voided before I get it then!

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Exactly. And the warrant also screws you on the mileage. If your car already has 25k miles on it and you got the 36k warranty, guess what? You just bought a warranty that only cover from 25k to 36k miles. Not another 36k miles like you would think.
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Yea like blufin stated, the warranty is basically directed towards someone with a all stock car and just wants to drop the supercharger on with the slp canned tune. All I had was high flow cats and a 3 inch catback. Must have under 10,000 miles and cannot add anything except supercharger. So no cai, headers, pulleys, custom tune .

The price was $795 for 3 years $1100 for 5 years.

I had 5k on my car and it added 150hp, no matter what it's a huge jump. The stage 2 kit adds about 60-80rwhp and the stage 3 about 60-80 on top of that. But jumping stages voids warranty, long with few other fine print things, like taking it to the track.
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just something to think about.. Night Furyed Camaros with heads intake and meth have been throwing down well over 700-750 with the ECS blowers. ususally to the point they have to put the restrictor plates in to keep the HP down to semi safe engine levels.
some like Jrod here just threw down an 802.. HCI/Meth/ECS and a good tuner.
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Ya, I've though about meth but never used the stuff so idk how quickly you have to refill and if there much to maintain it where to buy it etc. Heard someone talk about window washer fluid lol.
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Ya, I've though about meth but never used the stuff so idk how quickly you have to refill and if there much to maintain it where to buy it etc. Heard someone talk about window washer fluid lol.
I don't really refill mine often then again I'm not flooring it everywhere either lol. Usually with the meth kits it relocates the washer fluid to a new bottle and you use your washer bottle as the meth bottle. Meth is great for safety and IATs
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I have the (Maggy style, Jackshaft style, Old style) SLP TVS2300 supercharger on my LS3. I picked mine up about 6 months ago for $5600 shipped to my door. It sounds like the prices may have gotten even better now. At the time it was between this one and the new variant that SLP was offering. Price was not really much different between the two, I just preferred the looks of the jackshaft style more and liked the idea of being able to install the 1:1 Cog drive to give me the whine I wanted to hear and not increase boost. Anyways… I did the install myself and it was pretty easy. I put down 547 to the wheels running the stock pulley. My mods were Roto-fab CAI, Kooks 1 7/8 headers with hi-flow cats, and a custom dyno tune. I think you should be able to achieve close to you goal with pulley change and some supporting mods. One of the guys in our car club has my setup and it running the OD cog pulley with a cam and did 644 rwhp on the same dyno I was tuned on.




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I'm very interested in going TT over centri or displacement but am having trouble finding what I want. I'm not looking to spend an excessive amount. I was hoping for something like the IPS tt entry kit but it's not even looking like a eta soon. I may look at agp tuner kit or hellion tuner.


I've seen some great pricing for the slp tvs2300 old style which I like the whine ability of the displacement. For some reason centri just does not excite me.

I have a 2012 SS ls3 what would it take to achieve 600-640 ish rwhp? Also getting to this number I don't want to run into driving issues or belt problems. Ive had a turbo setup before but never displacement so they may not be issues. It just feels to me like a tt kit gets you to over 600 without any other mods where I see people with tvs2300's and they already spent money on headers intake and pulley etc still posting some unimpressive numbers.

Any input from you guys would be great. I'm not at this point expecting to ever push past 650 because im not going to build to the point of needing tranny and half the car built for more hp.

Thanks guys
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so the new version slp wont whine as much?
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