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Old 05-25-2013, 06:35 AM   #1
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New 2ss water spots

So I pulled out the closet last night I have:
Meg UC
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What to use for water spots....hmmmmmmm
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Old 05-25-2013, 06:46 AM   #2
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Will a clay bar take care of these? It's probably a good start to get rid of any grit/dirt that may have built up on the car. Did it sit on a dealers lot for a while?
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Old 05-25-2013, 06:50 AM   #3
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Yeah plan to use a speedy prep towel first ....days on lot was about 100....
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Old 05-25-2013, 07:01 AM   #4
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I used Meguiars UC on my new Jeep that had water spots. It took them right out.
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Old 05-25-2013, 07:02 AM   #5
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If your car is black plan on having water spots all the time. After washing it use detailer spray and a good microfiber towel.
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Old 05-25-2013, 07:28 AM   #6
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red car...no problems...if you have black look into a wipe walk away polymer sealant - really changes the way you maintain dark cars...soooo much easier...
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You might as well clay, polish, glaze, seal, and wax the whole thing. Wish I would have done that to my car first thing. Wouldn't think you'd need anything grittier than UC or even UP.
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Old 05-25-2013, 07:42 AM   #8
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You might as well clay, polish, glaze, seal, and wax the whole thing. Wish I would have done that to my car first thing. Wouldn't think you'd need anything grittier than UC or even UP.
Oh I certainly plan to - my master plan that works for me is:

1. clay/speedy to clean paint
2. one of the above to elim any imperfections
3. Blackfire Gloss Enhancing Polish- griots DA/CCS white pad
4. (Probably) Blackfire Wet diamond - DA with blue pad
5. Two coats Blackfire Crystal seal ( the real magic)
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Old 05-25-2013, 08:06 AM   #9
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Oh I certainly plan to - my master plan that works for me is:

1. clay/speedy to clean paint
2. one of the above to elim any imperfections
3. Blackfire Gloss Enhancing Polish- griots DA/CCS white pad
4. (Probably) Blackfire Wet diamond - DA with blue pad
5. Two coats Blackfire Crystal seal ( the real magic)
Probably goes without saying,but your first step really should be a 2 bucket wash. I personally leave the car wet and go straight to Claying before drying. Your local water condition will dictate whether or not you can do this as well.

While clay / prep towel will remove imbedded contaminates, if you clay without washing first, you'll damage your surface and your polishing step will take a lot longer to fix.

Also, Black car, red car, what ever color car, the color doesn't matter. They all have a clear coat on top of them which is what you're actually fixing and it doesn't care what color the base coat below it is. Your fix is on the clear coat surface should be the same regardless of base coat color.
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Thanks... Been detailing for years...certainly a wash either with my foam gun or rinselesd is how we start ... Actually just wondering how the paint is for initial correction...

I hear "its hard but is delicate".. So goes the water based urethanes!

while I agree the "clear is clear", I respectfully disagree, blacks show need of correction far quicker that other colors like silver or white...color does matter...

At this point I think I'll try UC with a soft pad...it's very pad dependant...

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Thanks... Been detailing for years...certainly a wash either with my foam gun or rinselesd is how we start ... Actually just wondering how the paint is for initial correction...

I hear "its hard but is delicate".. So goes the water based urethanes!

while I agree the "clear is clear", I respectfully disagree, blacks show need of correction far quicker that other colors like silver or white...color does matter...
To a point, I agree that the black makes the scratches and swirls easier to see without additional light, but your still fixing the clear coat in the same manner regardless of the color. I think we agree though.
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To a point, I agree that the black makes the scratches and swirls easier to see without additional light, but your still fixing the clear coat in the same manner regardless of the color. I think we agree though.
yes we do..you do it no diff...it just SHOWS faster, I guess is what I'm saying, that being said, putting a hard polymer shell or opti coat slows it down a bit!
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yes we do..you do it no diff...it just SHOWS faster, I guess is what I'm saying, that being said, putting a hard polymer shell or opti coat slows it down a bit!
Oh heck yeah.
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BTW Glen, welcome to the forum!
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Oh heck yeah.
thank you! I'm a retired factory rep for BMW after 24 years, but have always loved the big block Camaro's....had to have one in retirement!

have you seen some of the review of the $150 Blackfire black polymer wax? - some are raving about it...far too rich for my blood but interesting:

http://www.autopiaforums.com/forums/...mpressive.html
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Haven't yet, but Todd used to be a regular here on the forum. I've been thinking about heading over to meet him in person next time I'm in FL. In-laws are in North Port (coincidentally are visiting up here this week) and Id like to get the full on tour of the Blackfire line.

I think I've got enough Adams products to be an officer in Adams Army but this damn detailing addiction makes me want to try the other good stuff as well.
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I think I've got enough Adams products to be an officer in Adams Army but this damn detailing addiction makes me want to try the other good stuff as well.
it is a contagious addiction - and exactly what I have all that crap listed above - I can't stop myself! I have three spray sealants and just had to have the newest latest from Primo this week!.(don't bother,BTW) ....Help....me......
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Welcome glen! Post up some pictures of the victory red ss!
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I think we need a 12 Step program. :0/
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thank you! I'm a retired factory rep for BMW after 24 years, but have always loved the big block Camaro's....had to have one in retirement!

have you seen some of the review of the $150 Blackfire black polymer wax? - some are raving about it...far too rich for my blood but interesting:

http://www.autopiaforums.com/forums/...mpressive.html
Talk to Ihaveacamaro he's tried it I believe.

I'd start out with 205 and see if that works, if not then UC, then FG400 as necessary. Then finish it off with your choice. Florida water isn't too hard usually so any etching shouldn't be too severe.
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Old 05-25-2013, 10:50 AM   #21
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Talk to Ihaveacamaro he's tried it I believe.

I'd start out with 205 and see if that works, if not then UC, then FG400 as necessary. Then finish it off with your choice. Florida water isn't too hard usually so any etching shouldn't be too severe.
Great advice ...I haveacamaro and I are friends from autopia.....contacted...
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Great advice ...I haveacamaro and I are friends from autopia.....contacted...
Indeed

Even though he has few posts on c5, Glen knows what he's talking about detailing related. A good addition to this sub forum
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So it's the 205 this aft....white pad on a griots at speed 4 sound good?
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So it's the 205 this aft....white pad on a griots at speed 4 sound good?
Yes.
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