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Old 05-25-2013, 09:38 PM   #1
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Michelin Pilot Super Sport for SS?

Hi all, my stock pirelli tires on the 2SS/RS are running out and I'm just doing some research on tirerack. I do have a set of winder tires so only looking at summer tires instead of all seasons. Also I don't track the car, price isn't too much a problem as long as it's reasonable.

I have 2 options, now that staying stock is out of the question:

Potenza S-04 Pole Position

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Old 05-25-2013, 09:47 PM   #2
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You can/should do 285 max on the rear.
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Old 05-25-2013, 10:11 PM   #3
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You can/should do 285 max on the rear.
These are the 285 from them... so much more expensive tho
285 Michelin Pilot Super Sport
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Old 05-26-2013, 01:16 AM   #4
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When you say summer tires, are you looking more for performance or longer life? The Hankook Ventus V12 110 Evo is an excellent tire; soft sidewall is a track-only issue. They're more than good on the street. Great value for the price.

Michelin Pilot Super Sport is currently about the best performance street tire, but they're also the most expensive. Consider however that you can buy 2 sets of Hankooks for the price of one Michelin set. I'm running the Hankooks and if I wasn't looking to do more track driving I'd stay with them. Best bang for the buck.
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Old 05-26-2013, 04:49 AM   #5
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When you say summer tires, are you looking more for performance or longer life? The Hankook Ventus V12 110 Evo is an excellent tire; soft sidewall is a track-only issue. They're more than good on the street. Great value for the price.

Michelin Pilot Super Sport is currently about the best performance street tire, but they're also the most expensive. Consider however that you can buy 2 sets of Hankooks for the price of one Michelin set. I'm running the Hankooks and if I wasn't looking to do more track driving I'd stay with them. Best bang for the buck.
How does it feel different than the stock tires? The Michelins are expensive for sure... but the hankooks keep getting reviews like "they are meh for the price" which worries me
I would like softer and quieter tires for sure, but less or the same amount tail dance in a straight line would be kinna important too...
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What kind of mileage are you currently getting from OEM ? What type of driving ? What tire pressures? Most importantly what mods?

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Old 05-26-2013, 09:48 AM   #7
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Hi all, my stock pirelli tires on the 2SS/RS are running out and I'm just doing some research on tirerack. I do have a set of winder tires so only looking at summer tires instead of all seasons. Also I don't track the car, price isn't too much a problem as long as it's reasonable.

I have 3 options so far:

1, Stay stock.
Up side is despite the brand is good, and these tires will always be available since they r so mass priduced at this point. Down side is the short life span.

2, Go for cheaper Hankooks that last a bit longer.
Price of these is slightly cheaper than stock tires, and they last a little bit longer. Down side is there are some reports of sidewall being too soft, not sure if it's only a problem on the tracks.

3, Go up a size and match brand with the ZL1.
Price is about 50% more expensive than the stock tires, but they also last 50% longer. I'm not 100% sure if the stock wheel can fit 295 on the back, but if it does, would this be a good idea?

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4, 285 Michelin Pilot Super Sport
Ouch these are expensive... but I guess they match the stock tires since they still last 50% longer and therefore save on less frequent labor cost.

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more of all season high performance type ..i just bought the other day and boy do they look great ,nothing like the picture really..
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Michelins are the top dog tire out there. They are just so darn expensive. But if you've got the money, they are great tires.

In the racing world, the car's running Michelins are said to be "cheating" because they are that good.
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How does it feel different than the stock tires? The Michelins are expensive for sure... but the hankooks keep getting reviews like "they are meh for the price" which worries me
I would like softer and quieter tires for sure, but less or the same amount tail dance in a straight line would be kinna important too...
They are definitely better than stock; more grip, quieter and last longer. If you're expecting the performance of the $360 Michelin for $162 it's not there, but considering you can get an entire set of Hankooks for $740 and there's an $80 mail-in rebate, they're a great value for the price. If you check this link from Tire Rack you'll see they rank #10 in Max Performance Summer Tires (Michelin is #1):

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...ay.jsp?type=MP

If the tires are cold you'll get some spin in the back when you get on it, but once they warm up they are much better.

You're in Philly though where you get weather extremes so the Continental Extreme Contact DWS tires might be the better choice. They cost about $100 more each than the Hankooks but they also rank 4th on that link above versus 10th for the Hankooks.

You get what you pay for. If you're on a tight budget the Hankooks are a great buy. If you can afford a bit more but not go crazy, the Continentals are a great choice; especially for their all-weather ability. If you've got the money you just can't beat the top-dog Michelins.
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I priced a set of Michelin super sports, 255/295's and around 1700 for the set. Not cheap. And they dont make 274/40 20 stock size for the rear of the car in that tire.
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Option 5 using your 255/45 and 295/35 setup.

Step 1: Sign up for an ebate.com account.
Step 2: Link through their site to TireBuyer.com for 5% off ($67)
Step 3: Put the tire setup above in your cart for $1,337 with free delivery
Step 4: Use coupon code "retailmenot12" for 12% off ($160) so net $1,176
Step 5: Pay with your Discover Card for 2% cashback ($23)
Step 6: Go to Michelin site and send away for your $70 rebate

You will pay tax through TireBuyer so figure $1018 after all rebates, but before tax. Kinda hard to beat that deal. I just ordered a set for my ZL1 and netted down to $1,3XX all in.

$1,337 (total in cart with free shipping)
$1,177 (after retailmenot 12%)
$1,110 (after 5% rebate through ebates)
$1,088 (after DC 2% cashback)
$1,018 (after $70 Michelin rebate)
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Old 05-26-2013, 12:51 PM   #12
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What kind of mileage are you currently getting from OEM ? What type of driving ? What tire pressures? Most importantly what mods?

Brian
I'm at 26000 miles and the tires are going thin, the treadwear rating of the super sports are 300 vs the stock 200, so if they actually last almost 50% longer, then the average price will end up around the same as the stocks in the long run



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You're in Philly though where you get weather extremes so the Continental Extreme Contact DWS tires might be the better choice. They cost about $100 more each than the Hankooks but they also rank 4th on that link above versus 10th for the Hankooks.

You get what you pay for. If you're on a tight budget the Hankooks are a great buy. If you can afford a bit more but not go crazy, the Continentals are a great choice; especially for their all-weather ability. If you've got the money you just can't beat the top-dog Michelins.
Nah, I have a set of Pirelli snow and ice for the winter so I will skip on the all-season tires. So the hankooks are actually that much better than the stock, that is surprising...

The price of the tire alone isn't a big problem, but how long they will last. The tread rating of the stocks are 200, hankooks 280 and super sports 300, how come on the rating chart the super sports last so much shorter than the other 2 while tread wear rating still so high? Because it's mainly used for racing?



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Option 5 using your 255/45 and 295/35 setup.

Step 1: Sign up for an ebate.com account.
Step 2: Link through their site to TireBuyer.com for 5% off ($67)
Step 3: Put the tire setup above in your cart for $1,337 with free delivery
Step 4: Use coupon code "retailmenot12" for 12% off ($160) so net $1,176
Step 5: Pay with your Discover Card for 2% cashback ($23)
Step 6: Go to Michelin site and send away for your $70 rebate

You will pay tax through TireBuyer so figure $1018 after all rebates, but before tax. Kinda hard to beat that deal. I just ordered a set for my ZL1 and netted down to $1,3XX all in.

$1,337 (total in cart with free shipping)
$1,177 (after retailmenot 12%)
$1,110 (after 5% rebate through ebates)
$1,088 (after DC 2% cashback)
$1,018 (after $70 Michelin rebate)
Actually if you change the back tire to 285/35, the price comes down to $1154 before all discounts Link here the final price drops down to $895

also the front will be 255/45 and back 285/35, the 45 vs 35 difference won't be a problem since stock is 45 vs 40?
ZL1 came with these same tires right? How long did they last?
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Actually if you change the back tire to 285/35, the price comes down to $1154 before all discounts Link here the final price drops down to $895

also the front will be 255/45 and back 285/35, the 45 vs 35 difference won't be a problem since stock is 45 vs 40?
ZL1 came with these same tires right? How long did they last?
I wouldn't recommend the Michelin's unless you change your wheels..

The front tire from my calculations would be about 29" tall where the rear would be 27.9 (285/35) or 28.1 (295/35). You're talking a full inch difference. I'm sure you'll be able to notice/see the difference.

When I bought my tires I chose between the Nitto INVO and the Hankook V12. I ended up going with the INVO's but next time I'mm probably go 285/35/20 Michelin Pilot SS in all 4 (like the 1LE). The Hankook's seem like a good tire for the money. Also, the Conti's mentioned earlier would be a good choice. I would most likely lean for the Hankooks.. At least that's my personal opinion.

Hope that helps..
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I wouldn't recommend the Michelin's unless you change your wheels..

The front tire from my calculations would be about 29" tall where the rear would be 27.9 (285/35) or 28.1 (295/35). You're talking a full inch difference. I'm sure you'll be able to notice/see the difference.

When I bought my tires I chose between the Nitto INVO and the Hankook V12. I ended up going with the INVO's but next time I'mm probably go 285/35/20 Michelin Pilot SS in all 4 (like the 1LE). The Hankook's seem like a good tire for the money. Also, the Conti's mentioned earlier would be a good choice. I would most likely lean for the Hankooks.. At least that's my personal opinion.

Hope that helps..
285 on all 4 0.o that will be a bit too expensive I think

255/40 285/30 is the cheapest set from Michelin Pilot SS

255 x 0.45 = 114.75 mm
285 x 0.35 = 99.75 mm

So the difference is 114.75 - 99.75 = 15mm = 0.6 inchs
That will be a slight problem... but then again will it be noticeable
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