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Old 06-04-2013, 10:11 PM   #351
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If anything they killed the front not the back, would of been nice to see more corvette like tails.
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Old 06-05-2013, 03:47 PM   #352
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Here are a few pictures of a 2014 Camaro LS -- note there are no options shown on this car - replacing the steel wheels are the 18 inch aluminum wheels....

Reaction to the car was overwhelmingly positive at the Delaware River Valley Camaro Club's Annual Camaro/Firebird show in Wilmington....people seem to really like the base grille.
I like the new trunk lid, and I liked the steel wheels were dropped. the LS looks good .
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Old 06-05-2013, 05:17 PM   #353
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Here are a few pictures of a 2014 Camaro LS -- note there are no options shown on this car - replacing the steel wheels are the 18 inch aluminum wheels....

Reaction to the car was overwhelmingly positive at the Delaware River Valley Camaro Club's Annual Camaro/Firebird show in Wilmington....people seem to really like the base grille.
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Old 06-09-2013, 02:54 AM   #354
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.......do we see a pattern here?
I feel like I need to put my own two cents in here. I understand what you're saying, and I'm sure that an awful lot of that kind of stuff goes on. People hate change, and people love to complain about stupid things. But I think it's really easy to fall into the trap of looking at everything through that lens and ignoring valid criticism.

This immediately came to mind with me because you used the steering wheel as an example and I don't think it's a good one. The 2010 steering wheel has a lot of issues. I personally think it looks cool, but it's not so easy on the hands and I drive with it every day. The ergonomic issues were a valid complaint. So you went about fixing it, which is good. But you just replaced one problem with another by swapping in an almost bog standard wheel. So now it feels fine but it doesn't look as nice. That wouldn't have stopped me from buying a new model, but it would bother me every time I looked at it. So both complaints were and are still valid even though people have moved on.

Now as for the styling of the refresh, I am in the camp that doesn't like it. My personal opinion is that the original designer did such a great job that there wasn't much that could be done for a major refresh to improve it. But, like with the steering wheel being out of the parts bin, the business dictated that the styling had to change. I get that. But it still makes me question the taste of the company that let it through and I don't think I could bring myself to buy one again. Just doesn't hit me in the heart the way it used to.

That just goes to show you that a group of perfectly competent people can still turn out a product that has issues. It happens for a lot of reasons. But please, please listen to your customers and evaluate each complaint objectively. Otherwise it can become a slow spiral down. And it has happened before to GM and the other American car companies and it wasn't pretty.
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Old 06-09-2013, 05:43 AM   #355
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That god awful tacky chrome strip has got to go...

It KILLS the looks of the front end.



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Old 06-09-2013, 06:04 AM   #356
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The white car on the left looks ok (WITHOUT the awful chrome stuff)...

But to be honest the Camaro in the middle with the chrome "stuff" is just horrible looking...

It looks so "out of place" and kinda makes no sense of why it's there... It kinda looks like a head brace or something, like the car is injured.
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Old 06-09-2013, 11:05 AM   #357
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That god awful tacky chrome strip has got to go...

It KILLS the looks of the front end.



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Old 06-09-2013, 02:51 PM   #358
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The chrome strip isn't as obvious when you see the car in person. :shrug:
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Old 06-10-2013, 07:40 PM   #359
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Guys, the cars look great! Let's not hate. The chrome front piece is an easy fix, either paint it, plasti-dip, or vinyl. I'm sure the new front bumper is better aerodynamically than our current one.
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Old 06-10-2013, 07:53 PM   #360
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Guys, the cars look great! Let's not hate. The chrome front piece is an easy fix, either paint it, plasti-dip, or vinyl. I'm sure the new front bumper is better aerodynamically than our current one.
That Maybe true but, there is not a lot you can do about the ugly rearend.
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Old 06-11-2013, 12:03 AM   #361
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That Maybe true but, there is not a lot you can do about the ugly rearend.
I'll bet that the aftermarket will have lots of options available not long after we start seeing 2014's on the street.
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Old 06-11-2013, 11:54 AM   #362
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If I had my way I'll get a Black 2013 1ss/Rs, Add Recaro Seats with a ZL1 Bodykit & Z28 Wheels I wouldn't change anything on the New Z28, It's PERFECT but I'll have to throw in a Component 6 Speaker Set.
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Old 06-11-2013, 12:06 PM   #363
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Glad I ran out an ordered a 2013 and its sitting in my garage. The 2014 just isn't for me because I wanted the heritage Grille, the old style SS Emblems, and the concept convertible stripes.

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Old 06-11-2013, 01:39 PM   #364
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I'm gonna start a new thread for those who are interested in retro-fitting 2014 Camaro parts on the early 5th gen Camaros (2010-2013), if it is possible. This thread will be to inform one another.
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Old 06-11-2013, 07:26 PM   #365
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Nice to see that they finally removed the high-mounted / 3rd brake light from the rear deck lid of the convertibles, and integrated it into the rear spoiler (where it should have been all along!). This is one of the few things I dislike about my '11 vert.
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:05 PM   #366
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I just bought a Canon Rebel t3i DSLR so i will have better pics of the new colors as SOON as they are off the line!
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Old 06-11-2013, 11:10 PM   #367
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I just bought a Canon Rebel t3i DSLR so i will have better pics of the new colors as SOON as they are off the line!
Last I heard, the new colors were being delaying production until early to mid August. So you could be waiting a minute
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:29 AM   #368
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:48 AM   #369
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I don't understand all the hate about the taillights? The new one's certainly resemble the '69 better than the last one's. They just modernized them a little.

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I don't understand all the hate about the taillights? The new one's certainly resemble the '69 better than the last one's. They just modernized them a little.

I cant understand why many fans love old Camaros but still buy the new ones, whenever Chevy posts a survey on Facebook.

Do you want the car to stay old forever ??
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:22 AM   #371
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I cant understand why many fans love old Camaros but still buy the new ones, whenever Chevy posts a survey on Facebook.

Do you want the car to stay old forever ??
That's because when they do the poll all you have to do is "like" for the old school Camaro. You have to share if you vote for new school. People are less likely to do that.
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:52 AM   #372
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That's because when they do the poll all you have to do is "like" for the old school Camaro. You have to share if you vote for new school. People are less likely to do that.
Well thats the point, if they are all in favor of the old one, do they want chevy to think same as dodge and intorduce the old camaro body as the challenger did ???

The 5th generation is awsome !!
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Well thats the point, if they are all in favor of the old one, do they want chevy to think same as dodge and intorduce the old camaro body as the challenger did ???

The 5th generation is awsome !!
The 5th generation is based on the 69. Undoubtedly, the most desired of the old school Camaro. It has obviously worked well in terms of sales.
My earlier post about the taillights was based on the fact that this gen.was based on the 69, it only makes sense to bring the taillights closer to that look for the remaining years of this body style. I like them!
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I don't understand all the hate about the taillights? The new one's certainly resemble the '69 better than the last one's. They just modernized them a little.


Wait wait wait -- there were Camaros produced PRIOR to 2009?!?!?!?!?!??!

(that's your answer on why all the hate)
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:58 PM   #375
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I feel like I need to put my own two cents in here. I understand what you're saying, and I'm sure that an awful lot of that kind of stuff goes on. People hate change, and people love to complain about stupid things. But I think it's really easy to fall into the trap of looking at everything through that lens and ignoring valid criticism.

This immediately came to mind with me because you used the steering wheel as an example and I don't think it's a good one. The 2010 steering wheel has a lot of issues. I personally think it looks cool, but it's not so easy on the hands and I drive with it every day. The ergonomic issues were a valid complaint. So you went about fixing it, which is good. But you just replaced one problem with another by swapping in an almost bog standard wheel. So now it feels fine but it doesn't look as nice. That wouldn't have stopped me from buying a new model, but it would bother me every time I looked at it. So both complaints were and are still valid even though people have moved on.

Now as for the styling of the refresh, I am in the camp that doesn't like it. My personal opinion is that the original designer did such a great job that there wasn't much that could be done for a major refresh to improve it. But, like with the steering wheel being out of the parts bin, the business dictated that the styling had to change. I get that. But it still makes me question the taste of the company that let it through and I don't think I could bring myself to buy one again. Just doesn't hit me in the heart the way it used to.

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and I understand what you're saying.

Question: Have you seen the car IN PERSON?

I ask you this because I think you miss the point....ANY TIME you change something on Camaro (or Corvette) you get a lot of negative responses.

I've been at several shows now where we have them on display - and people who didn't like the pics are suddenly liking what they see.

And as to evaluating complaints - I believe we do that. That said, I also think it's appropriate to sometimes bring people 'back to earth' so to speak....and thus my remarks.
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