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Old 05-30-2013, 11:59 AM   #1
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2010 camaro ss ls3 vs 2004 gto ls1

How do you think it'd be if these two cars raced?
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Old 05-30-2013, 06:01 PM   #2
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100% camaro wins with no difference in the driver mod. Gto weighs almost as much with much less power.
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Old 05-30-2013, 06:38 PM   #3
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What about 2006 ls2? Just curious
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Old 05-30-2013, 11:42 PM   #4
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Lol not even close. LS2 would be a better race but unless the SS driver is a lot worse the SS will win.
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Old 05-31-2013, 12:26 AM   #5
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Anal rape. The 2004 GTO was slower than the 4th gen F-body Z28 and Formula cars. That year GTO was a big mistake IMO.
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Old 05-31-2013, 12:30 AM   #6
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Old 05-31-2013, 08:58 AM   #7
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My M6 had no problem walking a ls2 gto many times, street and track! The ls2 is pretty fast, very strong mid range but the ls3 pulls harder on the top end. Every time I shifted 3rd was when it was by by time.
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Old 05-31-2013, 10:13 AM   #8
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they do pretty good modded tho. but stock u should walk it pretty easy. on both ls1 and ls2 . im cam only and ive raced a h/c/i ls2 the other night and got him pretty good then . a friend in a full exhaust camaro and intake. was door to door with it till he hit 3rd then the camaro would start pulling on him.
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Old 05-31-2013, 03:26 PM   #9
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ls1 gto's are turd sandwich stock, 14 second cars at our track.

I even beat one twice from dead stop in my accord lol, he asked if I was turbocharged....
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Old 03-27-2014, 08:58 AM   #10
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The main crutch of the GTO is the rear suspension. It can be a finicky bitch to launch properly, and since a lot of the GTOs are very cheap to buy nowadays, every sideways cap-wearing mouth-breather trades in their IROC for one, and they don't know how to do anything other than smash the pedal to the floor.

Being ten years old at this point, keep in mind that a lot of these cars are now beat to hell, and those engines probably aren't in peak operating condition. I would certainly think that some of those GTOs that were so easily beat had over 100,000 miles on the clock, and probably weren't maintained the best, if at all. It is just like any other vehicle that increases in age: things break, maintenance slips, the car gets sold for a cheap price to a bigger dumbass who hacks it up some more.

Let's also compare apples to apples for a minute. The GTO is by no means "slow," especially when looking at the time it was released. Keep in mind that there was a point in time when the 260 HP LT1 was at the top of the game. Even the lowly LS1 GTO sported more horsepower over the competition. The Mustang had 300, the STi had 300, and the Evo was somewhere in the high-200s. You finally had the Magnum/Charger/300C in the mid-300s, but by that time, the GTO was at 400. So, it was always ahead of the game.

If you can look beyond the unmerited hatred of the GTO, you still have a RWD coupe with an LS engine under the hood. Stock for stock, I would hope the LS3 Camaro would beat the LS1 GTO. It is six years newer with a better rear suspension and a bigger engine. It's called progress.
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Old 03-27-2014, 01:36 PM   #11
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ls1 gto's are turd sandwich stock, 14 second cars at our track.

I even beat one twice from dead stop in my accord lol, he asked if I was turbocharged....
I'd like a video of this...
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Old 03-27-2014, 10:40 PM   #12
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I dunno, M6 LS2 GTOs are quick...they have the MN12 (Z06) trans w/ the better gearing and they weigh @3700 stock. And it's super easy to pull 100# out of them by removing tow braces, gas tank brace, etc. My 06 LS2 M6 had HCI at put 460+ to the wheels and it hurt some feelings. LS1 GTOs weren't strong but still can move w/ some cheap mods. Stock for stock, M6 LS3 > LS1 no matter which trans. M6 LS3 vs M6 LS2 is a drivers race, IMO.
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Old 03-27-2014, 11:41 PM   #13
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Old 03-30-2014, 08:35 PM   #14
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There's a lot of GTOs where I live and all seem very slow. Also these cars are hard to get the down track.
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Old 03-31-2014, 07:46 AM   #15
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Old 04-14-2014, 03:03 PM   #16
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HEY guys, new to the forum but I came across a camaro ss last week and it ran pretty strong compared to some I have seen. Who someone chime in and let me know what you would need to have to be neck and neck with me. He never pulled on me and neither did I. My girl has a SS which is why i am on here and I like them too but i'm just trying to see how i compare to one with what mods.

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Old 04-14-2014, 03:07 PM   #17
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here is my mods

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Old 04-14-2014, 04:12 PM   #18
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ls1 gto's are turd sandwich stock, 14 second cars at our track.

I even beat one twice from dead stop in my accord lol, he asked if I was turbocharged....
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The main crutch of the GTO is the rear suspension. It can be a finicky bitch to launch properly, and since a lot of the GTOs are very cheap to buy nowadays, every sideways cap-wearing mouth-breather trades in their IROC for one, and they don't know how to do anything other than smash the pedal to the floor.

This^ I remember one day at my local track, I had no problem beating the LS1 GTO's that were there in my 04 Mustang GT that was a high 13 second car. I know those cars should have eaten my little 2V mustang up, but the drivers couldnt drive. they all needed the driver mod big time.
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Old 04-14-2014, 04:38 PM   #19
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This^ I remember one day at my local track, I had no problem beating the LS1 GTO's that were there in my 04 Mustang GT that was a high 13 second car. I know those cars should have eaten my little 2V mustang up, but the drivers couldnt drive. they all needed the driver mod big time.
Any car that has a crappy driver is gunna FAIL. The ls1 might not be the ls2 powerplant or the ls3 but it can handle its own with some basic bolt on's. The thing with our cars is getting traction and the suspension isn't the greatest either but once those weak links are taken care the Gto can surprise many people. Personally I love mine and like that they only made 20-40k through all 3 years. I have had plenty of people underestimate mine and all they saw was rear lights with beautiful exhaust tones
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Any car that has a crappy driver is gunna FAIL. The ls1 might not be the ls2 powerplant or the ls3 but it can handle its own with some basic bolt on's. The thing with our cars is getting traction and the suspension isn't the greatest either but once those weak links are taken care the Gto can surprise many people. Personally I love mine and like that they only made 20-40k through all 3 years. I have had plenty of people underestimate mine and all they saw was rear lights with beautiful exhaust tones
I completely agree. I have lot of respect for just about anything with an LS motor in it. Just happens that I always lucked out with people that needed the driver mod haha
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Old 04-26-2014, 10:08 AM   #21
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I owned two GTOs (05 manual, 06 auto).
The LS2 GTO is a much better match from an LS3 Camaro, but it is still a slower car.

Some have already mentioned the GTOs difficulties getting off the line. I had a bxtch of a time launching my GTOs smoothly.
My 5th Gen Camaro SS launches like a dream compared to my GTOs.


The GTOs soft suspension setup combined with those excellent seats makes it one of the most comfortable cars to drive on the street. But the suspension really hurts its ability to get off the line smoothly. My manaul GTO was the worst car I've ever owned for wheel hop issues.
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