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Old 06-16-2013, 07:03 PM   #101
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buy the manual, people are swaping the l99 for the ls3. 70k miles and no major issues with the ls3
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Old 06-16-2013, 08:48 PM   #102
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I just have 1 question for the OP. Are you going to mod it or not? If your going to mod it with a aftermarket tune as well as other performance parts then I would seriously consider the auto. If your worried about warranty and not voiding it then you should get the manual for sure. The manual will be more fun to drive but modded the auto will be faster.

For those bashing auto owners. Bring that sh!t talking to the track and watch your ego shrink with my taillights. I bought this car with every intention to mod it pretty extensively. Some of us like me can drive a manual just as well as the next person but we chose to be fast and not care about what you haters think. Mod for mod when you add a higher stall converter, the auto will always be faster in the 1/4 no matter who's driving the stick car.
I'll run you with my stick in the quarter mile. Been driving a stick for thirty years and prefer it.


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Old 06-16-2013, 09:04 PM   #103
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+1 especially if you plan on doing more than drag only. Road racing and auto cross prefers manuals.


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Old 06-16-2013, 10:20 PM   #104
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+1 especially if you plan on doing more than drag only. Road racing and auto cross prefers manuals.


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+1on road race and auto cross.


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Old 06-17-2013, 12:29 AM   #105
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If you have the same mods as me, only difference being a manual, bring it on. SS of course not the GT500.
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Old 06-17-2013, 12:33 AM   #106
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Old 06-17-2013, 12:36 AM   #107
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I agree with you 100% for road racing, circle track and auto cross but 1/4 mile and stop light to stop light racing belongs to the auto. I wonder how many 5th gen Camaro's have ever been on a road course vs a drag strip vs a stop light race. I'm sure its a pretty staggering difference in numbers.
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:08 AM   #108
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:00 AM   #109
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I agree with you 100% for road racing, circle track and auto cross but 1/4 mile and stop light to stop light racing belongs to the auto. I wonder how many 5th gen Camaro's have ever been on a road course vs a drag strip vs a stop light race. I'm sure its a pretty staggering difference in numbers.
I'm sorry but quit hanging with people that cant drive.
an M6 is just as fast with someone that can drive is as any joe smoe in an auto.
especially on the street.
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Old 06-17-2013, 08:32 PM   #110
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If you have the same mods as me, only difference being a manual, bring it on. SS of course not the GT500.
Wife's SS is the L99 A6 with some mods pushing 430 flywheel HP. She does not know how to drive a stick. The closest she will get to a stick possibly is paddle shifters.

The Shelby is pushing 675 at the flywheel. I was going to run you with the Shelby since you did not specify the car I would still run you with similar horsepower, torque and weight on an LS3 if I had one.



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Old 06-18-2013, 01:01 AM   #111
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I'm sorry but quit hanging with people that cant drive.
an M6 is just as fast with someone that can drive is as any joe smoe in an auto.
especially on the street.
I'm sorry but this simply just is not true when a auto has a properly built and speced out torque converter for his application. I see you have parts from Lethal, how about you call them up and ask why they put a auto in their shop car and then ask how much did the auto drop their ET. From what I remeber the only change came from the trans as well.
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Old 06-18-2013, 09:17 AM   #112
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I'm sorry but this simply just is not true when a auto has a properly built and speced out torque converter for his application. I see you have parts from Lethal, how about you call them up and ask why they put a auto in their shop car and then ask how much did the auto drop their ET. From what I remeber the only change came from the trans as well.
again.. SKILL.
there are plenty of very fast people out there still using manuals.
an auto is MUCH easier to drive and drive consistently.
But that doesn't mean that it is the be all end all.

I personally will NEVER drive a automatic again in any muscle/sports car.
I made that mistake 1 time and was bored to tears till I sold it.
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Old 06-20-2013, 10:58 PM   #113
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again.. SKILL.
there are plenty of very fast people out there still using manuals.
an auto is MUCH easier to drive and drive consistently.
But that doesn't mean that it is the be all end all.

I personally will NEVER drive a automatic again in any muscle/sports car.
I made that mistake 1 time and was bored to tears till I sold it.
I agree a manual is more fun to drive but when a auto is set up properly no amount of skill in a manual is going to match it on the 1/4 drag strip. While that may sound like a opinion there are plenty of facts to prove it. For 1 look at the bolt on fast list. Despite the l99 being down 30hp look how many of them are on that list. Too new of a list? Ok. Look at the Ls1 4th gen fast bolt on list. So in all that time a human could not come close to matching the same et of those cars? The results speak for themselves.
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:16 AM   #114
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I agree a manual is more fun to drive but when a auto is set up properly no amount of skill in a manual is going to match it on the 1/4 drag strip. While that may sound like a opinion there are plenty of facts to prove it. For 1 look at the bolt on fast list. Despite the l99 being down 30hp look how many of them are on that list. Too new of a list? Ok. Look at the Ls1 4th gen fast bolt on list. So in all that time a human could not come close to matching the same et of those cars? The results speak for themselves.
The automatics have been improved on shifting over time...I agree. And race between nearly identical cars one being a M6 and an A6 driven by the average driver would be a toss up.....might edge it to a A6. However, a skilled M6 driver can outperform the A6 driver.

My preference is always a manual for a sports car. Nothing wrong with a driver who prefers automatics. To me, the manual offers more control of the driving experience and the automatic offers more comfort.

I think the art of driving a manual by the average driver today is being lost since most cars sold (all car types) are automatics.


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