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Old 06-01-2013, 08:30 PM   #26
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There's some truth in all the posts above, I believe.

After much reading , I'm convinced that after much testing , the engineers (I'm using this term in a positive light) found that the 1LE handled the best with the current tire and wheel setup.

While the wider 305 rear tires would ultimately give the rear end more grip, they found that the stretched 285 rear tires, near the limit, allowed the 1LE to rotate slightly better in the turns with more nuetral handling, making it faster and more fun. If you can get a car to rotate in the turn, you can get back on the gas sooner than if the car is pushing. Of course, too much rotation--loose as hell--is slower too. If anything, the 1LE is balanced.

On the ZL1, the wider rear tire tires are necessary because of the extra weight and especially the extra power. Powah!!
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:31 PM   #27
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Yes. From the video here's what Al says.

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front tires is stretched onto 11" rear wheel on back
why? b/c this is a track car
for track you don't' want to push that tire track down by having down force or have too much grip in the back, it's contrary to trying to fix the under steer.

we have the front splitter and rear spoiler which is to help with the grip.

we wanted to loosen up the slip and allow you to actually ring this thing out b/c in track mode this is a track car.

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Old 06-01-2013, 08:32 PM   #28
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That's just it as a square set of wheels/tires (same dimensions front & rear) is just that not stretched tires on the back.
You need to research the wheel size. You're wrong.


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Old 06-01-2013, 08:33 PM   #29
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Does having the same tire size in the front and the rear make a car handle better and gives better times around the track? Or does having the tire stretched in the rear just create a better performing car around the track?
When you can manage a square set of tires it will provide the best results. Take note that the square part of the equation is invalid when either rim or tire size changes. Strething one set of tires only is almost as much of a difference as overall dimentional changes front to rear.
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:33 PM   #30
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Cody, im not sure what you're problem is,but would you like to settle this at the track? I will be at Fontana Aug. 11th So bring what ever set up you want,and we will see what the correct set up is. Here is a little video of why C5 gave me homepage(thanks C5) March 2013.This isn't because the tire set up is wrong!

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Old 06-01-2013, 08:34 PM   #31
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Yes. From the video here's what Al says.




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My last few cars were 2006 GTO, 2007 C6, 2012 Camaro and now a 2014 Mustang GT. So I must say that I got a pretty good chuckle out of that statement. Just like I laugh every time one of you mention engineers like they gave a **** about half the stuff you're talking about.

Sure sounds like they don't give a shit to me.
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:35 PM   #32
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Corner.

Obviously your 10 years of track time is nothing compared to this guy's 10 years of internet knowledge.
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:35 PM   #33
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You need to research the wheel size. You're wrong.


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And you need to read more unless you're going to tell me they used a smaller tire in the rear which is why it's stretched. Or I can carry on talking about the fact that the rear wheel is wider thus the same size tire stretching to fit it.
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:36 PM   #34
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Corner.

Obviously your 10 years of track time is nothing compared to this guy's 10 years of internet knowledge.
Yet no one can actually prove me wrong, huh.....
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:38 PM   #35
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Yet no one can actually prove me wrong, huh.....
Obviously not.

I posted a video from the internet.

Which is where you get all your information.

So it has to be true.
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:39 PM   #36
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Cody, im not sure what you're problem is,but would you like to settle this at the track? I will be at Fontana Aug. 11th So bring what ever set up you want,and we will see what the correct set up is. Here is a little video of why C5 gave me homepage(thanks C5) March 2013.This isn't because the tire set up is wrong!


Now you're just confusing common sense with actually giving a ****. You can defend the poor excuse of tires sizes all you want allthough it's works it's by no means optimal. After all the engineers said that the splitter & spoiler aided in traction and that this was the best choice. Funny that the rear spoiler was added as an artistic touch yet now is a fully functional item on a track ready car.
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:42 PM   #37
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Now you're just confusing common sense with actually giving a ****. You can defend the poor excuse of tires sizes all you want. But you still can't prove that allthough it's works that it's by any means optimal.

You continue to make yourself look even more uneducated.

Keep going, this is good.
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:45 PM   #38
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I still fail to see your argument here.

If the 305 is better performing on the 1LE, at the retail savings of $54 per car, why would they slam a 285 on it?
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:49 PM   #39
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Yet no one can actually prove me wrong, huh.....
I just did Cody.Like i say meet me at Fontana Aug.11th,pretty sure all here will be waiting.Apparently you're one of those people who drive in the fast lane slowly clogging up our system,so im just going to pass you in the slow lane,good bye!
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:50 PM   #40
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Actually yes, a stretched tire on a rim will handle better than the same sized tire on a narrower rim. Ie find the widest rim that will fit and get the narrowest tire on that rim.

Now looks are a different story...
If this is true then why didn't they do the same on the Z28?
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:51 PM   #41
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If this is true then why didn't they do the same on the Z28?
500+ horsepower needs more tire.

Post should have stated narrowest tire that will hold the car.
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:54 PM   #42
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:56 PM   #43
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Y'all can stop bickering anytime.

It's the "Goldilocks" theory here... 305s on the rear caused the car to push a little... 285s stretched on the larger rear wheels is just right for optimal handling... see my post above... please. At the top of this page.
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:58 PM   #44
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:58 PM   #45
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Cody

Lets meat up for a bowl.
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:06 PM   #46
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"porridge" and "meet up for a bowl"

OMG! LMAO Big Time...
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:08 PM   #47
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My last few cars were 2006 GTO, 2007 C6, 2012 Camaro and now a 2014 Mustang GT. So I must say that I got a pretty good chuckle out of that statement. Just like I laugh every time one of you mention engineers like they gave a **** about half the stuff you're talking about.

You dont even own a 1LE ??? LMFAO so you have no clue how these cars handle thats winning right there
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:11 PM   #48
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"porrige" and " meet up for a bowl"

OMG! LMAO Big Time...

You wanna meat up too?

I'll get you a large bowl of porridge.

Nice ninja edit, LOL
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:17 PM   #49
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Thank you for the grammar lesson... 😴


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Old 06-01-2013, 09:23 PM   #50
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You continue to make yourself look even more uneducated.

Keep going, this is good.
It's good to you simply because you don't know better and simply fall back on what the engineers wanted. Funny how this amazing car took three years to becaome what it is today. All thanks to it being built to match a drawing thus function fitting form.
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