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Old 06-01-2013, 09:25 PM   #51
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I know, lets take up a collection to send him here.I pledge $100.00
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:26 PM   #52
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You dont even own a 1LE ??? LMFAO so you have no clue how these cars handle thats winning right there
You got me as after only owning my 07 C6 Z51, 12 SS and 06 GTO I haven't got a clue about the 1LE. Nothing in automotive performance in general applies to all these cars just the 1LE.....
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:27 PM   #53
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I just did Cody.Like i say meet me at Fontana Aug.11th,pretty sure all here will be waiting.Apparently you're one of those people who drive in the fast lane slowly clogging up our system,so im just going to pass you in the slow lane,good bye!
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:28 PM   #54
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:31 PM   #55
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It's good to you simply because you don't know better and simply fall back on what the engineers wanted. Funny how this amazing car took three years to becaome what it is today. All thanks to it being built to match a drawing thus function fitting form.
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:33 PM   #56
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You got me as after only owning my 07 C6 Z51, 12 SS and 06 GTO I haven't got a clue about the 1LE. Nothing in automotive performance in general applies to all these cars just the 1LE.....

A wider rear tire increases understeer.

Applies to automotive performance in general.
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:36 PM   #57
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About square setups being optimal... this may be true for some cars, but only testing will find the best setup, square or not, for any particular car.

The 1LE has a square tire setup and a staggered wheel setup, so let's call it a semi square setup that the handling team found optimal for track work while considerng this will be a daily driver too. JUST RIGHT porridge.

An extreme example of a square setup not being optimal would be the Porsche 911... with a square setup, these cars would back into the weeds around every corner. And of course, as stated above a couple of times, significantly higher power requires more rear grip via bigger tires.

Chevy says the Z28 has the widest front tires on any performance car in the world, and it has wider rear tires to handle the power. Power makes a car faster, grip makes a car faster, balance makes a car faster and more fun.

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Old 06-01-2013, 09:37 PM   #58
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Porridge tastes better than popcorn.

I do like popcorn though.
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:38 PM   #59
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:42 PM   #60
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Cody, im not sure what you're problem is,but would you like to settle this at the track? I will be at Fontana Aug. 11th So bring what ever set up you want,and we will see what the correct set up is. Here is a little video of why C5 gave me homepage(thanks C5) March 2013.This isn't because the tire set up is wrong!
OMG. LMFAO! That was great.

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Old 06-01-2013, 09:44 PM   #61
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It's good to you simply because you don't know better and simply fall back on what the engineers wanted. Funny how this amazing car took three years to becaome what it is today. All thanks to it being built to match a drawing thus function fitting form.
Like i said to Cody,goodbye,but for the rest of you "it's become"not "becaome"
and again,if i was so wrong,i would of shut up a long time ago!
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:48 PM   #62
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:50 PM   #63
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i guarantee if you put a ZL1 rear tire on a 1LE that handling would be better not worse.
All you are going to do is introduce more understeer which a stock 1le already has plenty of. Least without increasing the width of the front or going with a larger rear bar. Now talk about pedders 305 square setup, then you will have me agreeing with you.

It's about sidewall stiffness and keeping the tire from moving around on the rim under hard cornering, all of which a tight tire does better with vs a loose tire.
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:52 PM   #64
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No by all means you guys keep going!!
I'm getting a good laugh reading this rocket surgeon tell every one what's better for a car he has never owned!!!

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Old 06-01-2013, 09:53 PM   #65
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About square setups being optimal... this may be true for some cars, but only testing will find the best setup, square or not, for any particular car.

The 1LE has a square tire setup and a staggered wheel setup, so let's call it a semi square setup that the handling team found optimal for track work while considerng this will be a daily driver too. JUST RIGHT porridge.

An extreme example of a square setup not being optimal would be the Porsche 911... with a square setup, these cars would back into the weeds around every corner. And of course, as stated above a couple of times, significantly higher power requires more rear grip via bigger tires.

Chevy says the Z28 has the widest front tires on any performance car in the world, and it has wider rear tire to handle the power. Power makes acar faster, grip makes a car faster, balance makes a car faster and more fun.
Could GM have used a bigger wheel on the rear of the Z28 and then have stretched the 305/30zr19 tires?
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:53 PM   #66
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Ok putz...
Why would he call me names? Have i done something wrong?
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:55 PM   #67
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Why would he call me names? Have i done something wrong?
You must have offended his delicate state of being

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Old 06-01-2013, 09:55 PM   #68
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Yet no one can actually prove me wrong, huh.....
Cody, honestly could the real issue here be that you left Camaro for Mustang?

I think you're bitter. Would you not agree? Don't the Germans have a word for taking pleasure in others' pain? (Schadenfreude) It kind of seems that your motivation is to tell us what a crappy decision we made buying the 1LE and keeping the stock tires and rims. And in wanting to be right you enjoy taking pleasure in others' "loss" - well, your self assumed loss of ours.

If you're not a 1LE driver why are you here complaining about Chevy's setup for the 1LE?

If you're personally more confident than Chevy engineers, either buy a 1SS and "boingo" it to high heaven, you're way, but post those mods in the right forums OR make your Mustang a better track car an ours.

There ARE Camaro drivers in this forum who run 305s on the rear but they have years and years of track experience and they are civil and logical about it. I'm no engineer so I'm not going to tweak this stuff and I'm going to trust Chevy's engineers.

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Old 06-01-2013, 09:57 PM   #69
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Yet no one can actually prove me wrong, huh.....
Dude, read the quote from Al that I posted. Watch the video of that talk that someone posted.

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Old 06-01-2013, 10:03 PM   #70
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Dude, read the quote from Al that I posted. Watch the video of that talk that someone posted.

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Very well, put CRT.
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Old 06-01-2013, 10:03 PM   #71
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[QUOTE=Arodr395;6617462]Could GM have used a bigger wheel on the rear of the Z28 and then have stretched the 305/30zr19 tires?[/QUOTE

I don't think they needed to consider that for the Z28.

Perhaps on the 1LE, stretching the 285s on the larger rear wheels gave the correct amount of rear grip for the balanced handling they were shooting for, and as a bonus the staggered wheel size looks better too. Although, it makes rotating for tire wear a problem.
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Old 06-01-2013, 10:11 PM   #72
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Dude, read the quote from Al that I posted. Watch the video of that talk that someone posted.

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Not enough proof for Cody.



Cody,

Where are you? This bowl is getting cold.
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Old 06-01-2013, 10:13 PM   #73
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"Hey guys lets put tires that inhibit handling on our track version of one of our best selling cars." -said no GM engineer ever




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Old 06-01-2013, 10:14 PM   #74
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After thinking about it he might be right my bike has staggered tires :p and I can go really fast around a track on it lol.

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Old 06-01-2013, 10:19 PM   #75
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I have a 1le as soon as I find a shop that can put the right size tire on I will do it.
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