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Old 06-03-2013, 02:08 PM   #26
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Why is it always the nitrous cars exploding at the track? Doesn't matter how good you are with it. Fact is everything has to be perfect or it blows. Still the riskiest power adder there is period.
this is why most dont like nitrous bad info like this. nitrous has come a long way in the last 5-10 years . its not just push a button and hope all goes well lots of things to monitor and prevent a backfire.
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Most peoples experience with nitrous:


WEEEEEEEEE!

then:

KAAABOOOOOM!

Only if those people don't have a clue what they are doing.
todays systems if done correctly the risk goes WAY down from what it was many years ago.
computers are a wonderful thing.

OP if you do it do it right.. aux fuel system dedicated to the NO2 setup and have someone that knows what they are doing tune it and set it up for you.
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82 Camaro with a 406. Hit button. Went wee. then bang. Left the rearend on the road. 2 seconds were worth it. lol That was 20 yrs ago.
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Old 06-03-2013, 03:13 PM   #29
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82 Camaro with a 406. Hit button. Went wee. then bang. Left the rearend on the road. 2 seconds were worth it. lol That was 20 yrs ago.
lol, see even when its bad its good and a life long memory .
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Ive thought about looking into the plate system myself. Looks more safe these days, but Ill def do my research and get the knowledge first.
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this is why most dont like nitrous bad info like this. nitrous has come a long way in the last 5-10 years . its not just push a button and hope all goes well lots of things to monitor and prevent a backfire.
This isn't bad info. Had another nitrous explosion at my track last weekend. Motor toast and t 1.5 hour shutdown to clean up the track. Can't tell you when the last time we've had an FI or NA motor blow up.
People keep saying it's come a long way, but they still keep grenading their engines.

You run what you want, but I'll never touch the N2O.
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I am having RDP Motorsports put the Zex system in, these guys really know what they are doing.

Still wondering where you guys put your purge nozzle if you have one. Also is there any sound difference when the nitrous kicks in? I am curious how I would know when the engine is getting nitrous? Do you really have to push the gas pedal all the way to the floor for it to activate, or will it activate before that point.

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I am having RDP Motorsports put the Zex system in, these guys really know what they are doing.

Still wondering where you guys put your purge nozzle if you have one. Also is there any sound difference when the nitrous kicks in? I am curious how I would know when the engine is getting nitrous? Do you really have to push the gas pedal all the way to the floor for it to activate, or will it activate before that point.

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You should be able to feel it and you'll def be able to see it in your logs. Yes, gas pedal to the floor to achieve max value in the ECM. You can stick the purge anywhere you'd like.
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This isn't bad info. Had another nitrous explosion at my track last weekend. Motor toast and t 1.5 hour shutdown to clean up the track. Can't tell you when the last time we've had an FI or NA motor blow up.
People keep saying it's come a long way, but they still keep grenading their engines.

You run what you want, but I'll never touch the N2O.
thats why they make diff stuff. 1.5 shutdown must be a shitty track for a backfire clean up. i see blower cars blowing oil out all the time down the track . but oh well thats part of racing if u dont like track clean ups then might not want to go to the track cause its almost a fact that theres at least 1 every night.
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mailslot works good for me i had it everywhere but i get more compliments on the mailslot. lol
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1.5 shutdown must be a shitty track for a backfire clean up.
That's to clean all the oil and engine parts off the track. Like I said. Grenaded.

$700 N2O kit = -$8000 engine.
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mailslot works good for me i had it everywhere but i get more compliments on the mailslot. lol
Great idea, that's where it's going. Thank you!
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these cars can EASILY handle 100-125 shot as they roll off the showroom floor, on the L99s, you are going to want to go to the LS7 lifters for a 150+ shot and stay in that range(175 at the most) on the stock internals, but I wouldn't spray a 175 shot as it, lol

personally, i'd probably do the Ls7 lifters and a 125 as a safety precaution... its all in the tune and your setup... you can have a 5th gen on nitrous for $650... or you can do it right and its going to cost about $1800... your choice, your car... the problem is the guys with the $650 kits that blow shit up and give it a bad name... the people like my best friend who took a bone stock Ls1 Z28 and sprayed a 125 shot from 2200 miles all the way to about 156,000 miles(and through two 4L60es, lmao), no one mentions them....
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I had my engine tuned at the same place that is installing the nitrous, will the car need to be tuned again when adding nitrous?

The system is going to cost around $1100, which included the nitrous system, 10lb canister, and the purge option. I don't drive the car in the winter and it's not a DD so would I need a pressure system? Is a 10lb canister the right size? How much do they cost to get refilled?

You guys are worrying me a little with this blowing up stuff.
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I had my engine tuned at the same place that is installing the nitrous, will the car need to be tuned again when adding nitrous?

The system is going to cost around $1100, which included the nitrous system, 10lb canister, and the purge option. I don't drive the car in the winter and it's not a DD so would I need a pressure system? Is a 10lb canister the right size? How much do they cost to get refilled?

You guys are worrying me a little with this blowing up stuff.
10# bottle is fine. You don't need a 15.

In CT nitrous is $7 a pound. You may be able to get it cheaper but that's what it costs me. It would be wise to check everything on the dyno while spraying to check afr's and fuel pressure, etc.

What the pressure system you're referring to?
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Old 06-04-2013, 12:45 AM   #42
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mailslot works good for me i had it everywhere but i get more compliments on the mailslot. lol
I have been wanting to do mine like that. Looks bad a$$.
As for now, the purge tube goes straight down into a hole for the engine cradle/crossmember. Stealthy, excecpt for the sound during the purge.
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I had my engine tuned at the same place that is installing the nitrous, will the car need to be tuned again when adding nitrous?

The system is going to cost around $1100, which included the nitrous system, 10lb canister, and the purge option. I don't drive the car in the winter and it's not a DD so would I need a pressure system? Is a 10lb canister the right size? How much do they cost to get refilled?

You guys are worrying me a little with this blowing up stuff.
Need tune for nitrous? Maybe or maybe not. Depends what the shop decides to do. Did you read my previous post, 23? If they do it the way I stated in the post, then no.
N2O went up this yr in my area. For a 10lb refill it's $45. You'll need to refill when you have about 2lbs left. How do you know? Weigh it, eventually you get a feel of when you need filled. Weigh the bottle empty with all the accessories on it, remote bottle opener, pressure gauge, bottle heater pressure switch, etc. Then you will know where your at with the amount of nitrous in the bottle.
What do you mean by pressure system? Nano?
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mailslot works good for me i had it everywhere but i get more compliments on the mailslot. lol
thats offically one cool picture
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lol, see even when its bad its good and a life long memory .
LOL yeah things have come along way. Would be a life long memory if had a memory lol. Just noticed what I wrote.That was closer to 30 yrs ago not 20. Ah whats ten years at my age. lol
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That's to clean all the oil and engine parts off the track. Like I said. Grenaded.

$700 N2O kit = -$8000 engine.
700 for a good set up in what world?
Just shows how out of touch you are.
A good system with an isolated fuel system should be much closer to 3k with ease if done correctly.

And if you are seeing so many incidents at your local track that tells me there is quite a bit of incompetence at your local shops or whomever is doing all these systems that are blowing up constantly. Unless you are talking about older cars with less sophisticated systems which had a much higher risk.

Down here we rarely see incidents with nitrous grenading engines. Maybe 1 per year.

And many many cars are using it either for a primary adder or to assist in boost setups.

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I had a 150shot on my Trans Am back in the day and loved it! All it had was a SLP exhaust and a TNT nitrous kit, and I was running door to door with pullied/ported blower 03-04 Cobras.

Nowadays, many of our customers prefer nitrous and have no issues with good tuning. Our C6ZO6 has a 200shot, puts down over 830whp, and ran over 208MPH at the Texas Mile!

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So what would I do if I wanted to blow up my engine? If you tell me how to blow it up I will know to NEVER do it.

I checked online and I don't see any kits that cost $3K, they all seem to be under $1K. What do you get with a $3K kit -vs- a $1K kit?
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How much did you spend on your nitrous kit? Have you had any trouble with it? No blown engines right?

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LOL. No blown engines. I have had a ZEX kit on my past 4 cars. I was the first on this forum to run one on my old 2010 V6. The ZEX kit is very safe. A window switch makes it safer, and the tune needs to be checked for knock retard. A bottle heater will make it last a little longer. A purge kit will help get all the air/water vapor out of the lines. You can spend a ton of money on stand alone fuel tanks and NANO kits and direct port set ups. Are they better? YES. Are they necessary? NO
I still have my window switch in a box in my garage, but I do plan on installing it. I adjusted my tune for a no lift shift like the ZR1, so the window switch will help out a lot.
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