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Old 02-28-2008, 12:10 AM   #151
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I know the top pic is from the last thread, but i figured it'd get more attention here. I was just noticing just how similar the concept and the pre-po really are... when you compare these two photos (besides the slight difference in angle) you can rest assured that the concept you love is pretty much what you're gonna get, albeit in a much cheaper/safer package.



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Old 02-28-2008, 12:11 AM   #152
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Why put restrictive, ultra-curvey ducting for your intake air right over a hot engine block?
Hey, I definitely don't understand either, but that's the way it was for 2 years. I personally think that the design for the 98-02 SS hood was more effective/efficient...Any thoughts?
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Old 02-28-2008, 12:12 AM   #153
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the thick b pillar explains the lack of the secondary window going down
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Old 02-28-2008, 12:14 AM   #154
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I know the top pic is from the last thread, but i figured it'd get more attention here. I was just noticing just how similar the concept and the pre-po really are... when you compare these two photos (besides the slight difference in angle) you can rest assured that the concept you love is pretty much what you're gonna get, albeit in a much cheaper/safer package.

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Are the lights on the black car production?
And will the production model have the LS2?
I'm sorry! haha, Welcome to the forums. I think you'll like it quite bit here.

Excellent find on that angle on the concept, too. I never even thought of that.

I know the angles are slightly different...but does anybody get the impression that the "top" of the grille (where the 'intake' vent is) is somewhat slanted downward more than the concept?
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Old 02-28-2008, 12:16 AM   #155
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I know the top pic is from the last thread, but i figured it'd get more attention here. I was just noticing just how similar the concept and the pre-po really are... when you compare these two photos (besides the slight difference in angle) you can rest assured that the concept you love is pretty much what you're gonna get, albeit in a much cheaper/safer package.



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Hey!! Nice first post! I'm sure you'll get attention with that one! Welcome to the site!! And I completely agree with you! They look extremely close to each other! I actually feel like some of the pre-pro's lines are stronger/sharper... It could just be that the angles of the pictures don't match perfectly...or it could be true!!! who knows!
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Old 02-28-2008, 12:18 AM   #156
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dang i was hoping for the ability to open the secondary rear windor but that b pillar explains that one... the concept you can open it

got firebird and mustang photos...
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Old 02-28-2008, 12:21 AM   #157
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It's not really important but the STI's hood scoop is for the top mount intercooler, not for the intake air.
Also that huge hole in that racing corvette is to function as a front spoiler. The air goes through the mesh grill and then through hole and over the hood. Its able to fit because the engine is moved back to have better weight distribution.

Also can everyone still see the pics on the first page? I cant see them anymore here or on any other pic threads, HELP! All it says is the file name and size but no pics?
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Old 02-28-2008, 12:29 AM   #158
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Thanks for the welcome! Don't worry about me liking the site, I've been lurking here almost everyday probably longer than most regular posters have been members! Not real big into posting, but am REAL big into Camaros... fell in love 20 years ago when i first saw my uncle's burgandy/gold IROC-Z (I must've been 5!).


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Old 02-28-2008, 12:36 AM   #159
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I know the top pic is from the last thread, but i figured it'd get more attention here. I was just noticing just how similar the concept and the pre-po really are... when you compare these two photos (besides the slight difference in angle) you can rest assured that the concept you love is pretty much what you're gonna get, albeit in a much cheaper/safer package.



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Old 02-28-2008, 01:44 AM   #160
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i will maintain that you cannot use a cowl hood on a 4th or 5th gen because of the rake of the windshield. the ferrari is a good example - the older windshields of the 60s were practically perpendicular to the road surface and created a pocket of cold air at the cowl, which would reverse course and flow back along the hood. when you put a motor operated flap at the base of the windshield that opens based on pedal position, (my brother has a 69 and we put a functional cowl hood on his car) and then SEAL the hood on top of the air cleaner (it comes with a large rubber seal)
- it creates a really nice duct for the air to flow in and ontop of the carb.

when you lay the windshield flatter (like in the 4th or 5th gen) you remove that pocket of air at the cowl by creating better airflow over the windshield, and thus negating the positive effects of a cowl induction hood.
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Old 02-28-2008, 02:07 AM   #161
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Someone wanted to see underhood shots of a 4th Gen SS air induction? Yup, the hood is all metal. That adds the the weight. It is kind of weird how it wraps around, but here it is...and you can also see in the hood scoop how the air is diverted into the two seperate ducts.
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Old 02-28-2008, 02:31 AM   #162
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This car looks like an animal! Its awesome! I had an M5 rolling next to me today, taunting a losing race, but not with a 2010 Camaro SS, oh no no more of those games, I can't wait! This car looks like the Intimidator!

I'll take the one withe the sunroof!

[QUOTE=Gatecrasher;47487]Those will probably be in the next batch of cars. The manufacturing validation cars. These are just rough engineering cars to test systems. Not the assembly of final parts.

It looks like the cars equipped with a sunroof lose the reverse mohawk.



The solid roof cars keep the mohawk.

The rear-back pillars/windows look completely different than the white one...





Yeah I see the camo attached to the back. Oh and yea true dual exhaust...

They could put clear lenses imposed within the red ones like eurolight but whatever they do DON'T use yellow, at least they are all red on these models so far...

Actually the 2007 Maxima has a pillar simillar to the Camaros with rear camo:

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Old 02-28-2008, 04:11 AM   #163
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nice.
im glad we are seeing more and more
i check this site everyday lol
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:59 AM   #164
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the 4th gen SS hood is fiberglass from 1996-2002. (i have a 2002 SS in my car club. and used to know a guy with a 97 SS).

the only metal hood is the stock hood that comes with the v6/z28
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Old 02-28-2008, 06:22 AM   #165
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the 4th gen SS hood is fiberglass from 1996-2002. (i have a 2002 SS in my car club. and used to know a guy with a 97 SS).

the only metal hood is the stock hood that comes with the v6/z28
this man speaketh the truth... the '96-'02 SS hoods are made of fiberglass and have supports made of metal... the '93-'02 Z28 hoods are all metal... the funny thing is that I believe the LS1 Z28 hood is lighter than the LS1 SS hood is... I dont know how that is possible, but having picked up both kinds by myself, the Z28 hood feels lighter.
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Old 02-28-2008, 06:35 AM   #166
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...and none of the Vents are real!"
Well you haven't necessarily seen ALL the vents yet!
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Old 02-28-2008, 06:52 AM   #167
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ok i just thought of something, the reason the scoops on the Z06 and camaro is NOT functional, its probably because of the fact that they are not mounted on the actual hood of the car, they are mounted just in front of it, right were the hood latch and stuff would obscure it. if it was move back onto the hood like on the Gen IV it would more than likeliy be functional.

oh and after looking at a photo of the concept, the scoop on it looks fake too. look at the last one in this link and youll see what i mean.

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The front vent is functional on the concept.



I hope something like this could survive to production, mostly because it just LOOKS so much better than some chunky black plastic cube for an airbox.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:19 AM   #169
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The front vent is functional on the concept.



I hope something like this could survive to production, mostly because it just LOOKS so much better than some chunky black plastic cube for an airbox.
I hope so too, but the front scoop on the concept is only partial function, the air is also drawn in from the holes at the top of the intake area jusr rear of the slit. this allows for the CFM issue at WOT you will need more air that the slit will provide.
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Yeah, and if it had some room in the engine bay that would make dropping in performance mods a lot easier! although i was looking at the pics and I dont think that the back window pillars will look like how they are with the camo on. They are prolly doing it to throw people off. the lights i bet will change too more of a combo look. I reallly like the way the body is turning out hopefullly soon we can get some inside insight!
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:51 AM   #171
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See, I remember seeing images close to those and by the looks of it, it seems the air box intake is sorta' behind the latch and vent in the facia. If it doesn't ram air, cold air induction is just as good in my opinion. If it just takes me a little cutting to make it so that some cold air is introduced into the air box, I'm down with that. Crash protection standards may require changes to the Concepts design though...
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I do not believe that the Concept's front opening is as functional as some would believe... notice that the air snorkle goes from the throttle body and blooms out to cover the entire front radiator area? the reason it looks functional is because you want it to look functional... I'm quite positive that the Concept is a bottom breather, just like all LS1 4th gens... the neat coverings on the Concept just make it look different.

honestly, I dont expect that the production car will have a front scoop that feeds the air box directly... more likely, it will be a way for air to enter the front of the engine bay and channel air over the engine and out the back of the cowl hood... this would benefit the engine's cooling ability and give a certain functionality to the scoop, but I would much rather the air come from down low where the air is cooler and denser.

while I'm talking about hoods and scoops, I want to also address that the LS1 SS hood wasn't that great at getting air to the intake... there are folks that have plugged the SS hood opening and still had the car run just as fast as it did with it open... the LS1's ability to suck air in was FAR greater than what the hood could have ever hoped to keep up with... so most of the air was from down low with just a touch of added air from the scoop.
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Wow, I didn't think the 98+ SS hoods were somewhat functional.

I have a question for the WS6 people, are the "nostrils", as I call them, on the LS1's functional?
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do i see vette style dual mufflers under there?
and whats with the trailer hitch?????

why is the camo still on?
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Wow, I didn't think the 98+ SS hoods were somewhat functional.

I have a question for the WS6 people, are the "nostrils", as I call them, on the LS1's functional?
no, but they can be made. they have a air flow area in the hood if you actually look at the bottom of the hood. but no they had the plastic grill in the nostrils that was blocked.
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