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Old 06-29-2009, 03:33 PM   #1
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Whats the best wax for a black car, MINUS Zanio

Sorry Zaino guys i dont feel like the time or the money for the product. Whats the best wax out there for black cars, that does leave haze or anything??
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Old 06-29-2009, 03:35 PM   #2
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I'd go with either Meguire's, or Mother's.

I just bought a pretty decent detailing kit from Meguire's. (They had a huge display at the GM/Camaro Nationals in Carlise) The products which came with it look very good.

If I weren't using Zaino on my SS, I'd go with Meguire's.
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Old 06-29-2009, 03:37 PM   #3
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i think i have seen some Black car wax before but didnt see it today
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Old 06-29-2009, 04:37 PM   #4
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I'd go with either Meguire's, or Mother's.

I just bought a pretty decent detailing kit from Meguire's. (They had a huge display at the GM/Camaro Nationals in Carlise) The products which came with it look very good.

If I weren't using Zaino on my SS, I'd go with Meguire's.
What Moose said. I'd go Meguair's all the way then.
And no need to worry, because ZAINO does not make a wax, just the best polish out there!!
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Old 06-29-2009, 05:08 PM   #5
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you can just get Z-5 and Z-6 for about $25, and you only need to put it on once..... then put a new coat on when you would usually wax your car again. It's worth doing it this way just to have the Z-6 in your car for touch-ups.... Z-6 is like sex cream for your car.

or even easier..... Z-AIO alone for $26

little time, and little money


but if you insist on putting the $5 stuff on your new Camaro... Meguires I guess



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Sorry Zaino guys i dont feel like the time or the money for the product. Whats the best wax out there for black cars, that does leave haze or anything??
do you mean "doesn't leave a haze"
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Old 06-29-2009, 05:12 PM   #6
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I think I heard that Zymol was good on black, you can get it at autozone.
But like Moose said it;s hard to beat megs or mothers for OTC products.
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Old 06-29-2009, 05:13 PM   #7
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I use Adams Products. A bit pricey, but excellent, and they last a long time!

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Old 06-29-2009, 06:17 PM   #8
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I recently went to my local auto shop and seen this
http://www.turtlewaxblackbox.com/

its by turtle was and called the black box, it has everything you need minus clay bar. I have a blk harley so decided to try it out as its a 2001 and has not been waxed in a long time.

after claying the bike and going through the process it shined like brand new dime and even reduces some scratches.
It really maked the black look deep in apperance and the wet look, I was quite impressed. I think it was only 19 or 24 and theres enough in there for many applications. Im going to do my sisters 07 silverado next week.

As far as wax for a holdup i usually just dust off my bikes since its not my daily driver but after 2 washes and 6 weeks its holding up good.
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Old 06-29-2009, 06:31 PM   #9
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Meguiar's for me so far. Great stuff. Easy too.
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Old 06-29-2009, 06:36 PM   #10
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Old 06-29-2009, 07:05 PM   #11
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Consumer line is pretty dam good imo but have to admit zaino is amazing stuff. Havent found any product in the consumer line that can touch it for durability.
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Old 06-30-2009, 02:13 PM   #12
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Well if you want the best possible outcome, time is one thing you have to spend. If you are just going to slap a coat of wax on there and nothing else, you arent going to get nearly the potential out of your car as you actually could.

Honestly, I've tried zaino and trophicare, and I get every bit as good results using meguiars products, but getting those results is a little more involved than just throwing some wax on there. You need to come up with a good routine. I'm a little of a meguiars fanboy, so if that might bother anyone read no further.

This is what I do-

1. Wash the car using dawn dishsoap. The dawn will completely strip any wax, and almost all contaminates, whatever it leaves you can get off with a claybar. A claybar will strip off wax too, and some people say dawn is overkill, but honestly, its not going to hurt your paint, and the less work the claybar has to do, the easier it'll be when you clay it.

2. Claybar. Even if you only have a couple hundred miles on your car, you need to clay it. You will get contaminates on your paint simply washing it will not remove, and you need the cleanest surface possible before you start putting on polish/wax. Any crap that gets left on your paint when you put wax on gets trapped in by the wax and will screw up your paint. I've actually never used a meguiars claybar, I still have a nice stock of zaino ones that work quite nicely. I use a quick detalier spray when I'm claying, you want to use it to lubricate the claybar. Spray down a small area and rub it down with the claybar until it is completely smooth, when you're done you should be able to put your hand in a plastic bag, rub it over the paint and feel no bumps whatsoever. Clay the entire car to this standard.

3. Wash with dishsoap again, you need to get the residue of the detailer spray off of the paint.

4. Polish. I personally use meguiars #7 show car glaze. Being that your car is black, you might consider using their #9 swirl remover or #80 swirl remover to combat swirl marks, considering your car is brand new you might get away with a normal polish like the #7. Just make sure to follow the directions exactly as it says on the container. Like on the #7, it says apply only to a cool surface, in the shade, and to use sparingly. If you don't follow any single one of those directions, its gonna be a pain in the ass and look like crap.

5. Wax. I use a coat of meguiars nxt 2.0 followed by a coat of meguiars #26 yellow wax. The #26 is essentially a caranuba wax with some synthetic stuff mixed in. I like putting the nxt on first because the nxt has cleaners mixed in with the wax that would mess with something neutral like the #26. I put one coat of the nxt, and wait about 12 hours, this way it gives the wax time to 'cure' almost, it is litterally setting up bonds over your paint at a molecular level after you put it on. You probably wouldnt notice a difference if you waited, but I'm sorta anal about it. After 12 hours I put on a coat of the #26, and usually like to wait a couple hours at least before I drive it so the second coat can get set up too. Just like with the polish, follow the directions exactly as the container says, most importantly if it says use sparingly, do it, if you don't youre gonna get poor results. The only problem with the nxt and the #26 is they don't last long at all. For a daily driver I wouldnt expect more than 2-3 months before you needed to do everything all over again. Meguiars also has a line synthetic sealants which should look as good as and last longer than regular wax, their #20 and #21, I have no experience with them but I'd imagine they would be every bit as good as zaino.

Just in general, work completely in the shade, every step, washing, claying, polishing, and waxing. Surface prep is the biggest factor in getting your car to look good, if you put polish and wax over a crappy looking dirty car, its gonna come out looking crappy and dirty. If you're gonna wait between coats of wax keep your car in a place with NO dust or dirt, like a really clean garage, and no where outside. After I'm done I like to use meguiars ultimate quick detailer spray after I wash it, every couple washes, its pretty mush just a synthetic sealant, and its good for adding some shine and helping everything last longer between waxings.

I've gotten most of my (miss)information from the forums on the meguiars website. They have very active moderators who would be happy to answer damn near any question you could imagine about detailing your car.
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Old 06-30-2009, 02:16 PM   #13
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Old 06-30-2009, 02:32 PM   #14
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Tropi-care FTW! Zaino, Adams, have nothing on Tropi-care. Not to mention the BEST customer service in the industry!
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Old 07-01-2009, 06:58 PM   #15
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A friend of mine gave me a partial gallon of a detailing spray called Auto Tech Wow. It's the color of watered down milk and it works great on my black SS. The best thing about it is that it doesn't leave any kind of haze on the plastic or glass like regular car was does.

I haven't been able to find any of this stuff on eBay or any place else so if someone can find a source for it please let me know.

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Old 07-01-2009, 08:30 PM   #16
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I use Adams Products. A bit pricey, but excellent, and they last a long time!

http://www.adamspolishes.com/c-17-ca...nd-polish.aspx
Go with the new Adams paste. I use it on our black car and it rocks
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:35 PM   #17
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A friend of mine turned me onto Meguiar's. I bought the car wash, liquid wax, clar bar kit and the scratch X. The price was reasonable. I have to say that I am a first believer now. I used the entire set on my Enclave (white) and used the scratch X on a friend's 4Runner (dark blue) and my truck (basically CGM colored). I was truely impressed and can't wait to use it all on my Camaro.
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Sorry Zaino guys i dont feel like the time or the money for the product. Whats the best wax out there for black cars, that does leave haze or anything??

this is my car after my detail with all mequiars products, love their products so far!
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26256
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Old 07-01-2009, 09:14 PM   #19
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As a kid, my dad was the SoCal rep for Meguiar's and I spent my weekends washing and waxing his car for years. Then, Meguiar's dropped him for some other rep company and he picked up "The Wax Shop." I really liked their stuff compared to Meguiar's. I do not know if The Wax Shop is still in business or not. But, Meguiar's new stuff...their NXT Generation wax...I really like it!!
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As a kid, my dad was the SoCal rep for Meguiar's and I spent my weekends washing and waxing his car for years. Then, Meguiar's dropped him for some other rep company and he picked up "The Wax Shop." I really liked their stuff compared to Meguiar's. I do not know if The Wax Shop is still in business or not. But, Meguiar's new stuff...their NXT Generation wax...I really like it!!
You said it brother!! If it weren't for ZAINO, I'd be using Meguair's!
Especially the NXT stuff.
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Old 07-02-2009, 02:20 PM   #21
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For black, or other dark colors, Pinnacle Souveran. If you don't want to use paste go with a Wolfgang or Klasse product, like the all-in-one polish with high gloss sealant over it. I think you will be happy with the Klasse products or liquid Souveran.
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HELLO. I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID. U CAN TELL THAT U R A EXPERT. I WANTED TO KNOW, IF I PUT A SEALANT ON A CAR, DO I HAVE TO PUT WAX ON AFTER WORDS. OR IS SEALANT IS ALL I NEED.
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HELLO. I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID. U CAN TELL THAT U R A EXPERT. I WANTED TO KNOW, IF I PUT A SEALANT ON A CAR, DO I HAVE TO PUT WAX ON AFTER WORDS. OR IS SEALANT IS ALL I NEED.
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