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Old 02-24-2012, 09:46 AM   #1
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BullF-16's 9" IRS Install

BullF-16 Called us up awhile back to get one of our fabricated 9" IRS kits, after talking with him for a bit he decided to have it installed at SNL Performance in Fort Worth. SNL is also the home of Monster Clutch Company.
Since SNL is one of our largest dealers I decided I would come down for the install to answer any questions and to snap a few photo's.

Jim (BullF-16) chose the Strange 35 spline S-Trac pumpkin along with our big 35 spline inner stubs.
This way he gets a Lifetime warranty for the entire rear since the Strange S-Trac comes with a lifetime warranty plus all the Gforce parts are covered by our Lifetime warranty as well.
Our 9" kits also come with 300m axles, billet outer stubs and all the brackets and hardware to bolt right in.

Our 9" kit for the Camaro was designed to be bolted into the IRS Camaro, it's much more then a stock housing, it's a fully fabricated housing using all laser cut and cnc machined parts plus it's fully tig welded in our jig.
The face plates are 3/8" thick and the covers are 3/16" thick. We designed our housing for use in 2000+hp applications but it works great in a stock Camaro as well since it bolts right in with many pumpkin options available.
Just one look by customers and they see why our fabricated 9" is the bad boy on the market!

For Jim's 9" kit, we used a new driveshaft that we have been working with Dynotech Driveshafts to develop for the new Camaro.
It is an aluminum shaft with no cv joint on the front. This greatly reduces the weight on the nose of the shaft. This eliminates vibrations and gives the car a nice firm feel.
It uses an aluminum splined slip assembly in the front, it's not anything like the old steel slip shafts from the old days.
Dynotech has been making and selling shafts like this to the GT500 Mustang guys for a while now and they just love them.
The shafts are spun on Dynotechs high speed ballancer and tested before leaving Dynotech.
The great thing about the new shaft is it dropped a little over 9 lbs over the stock shaft. The stock shaft weighed in at about 24 lbs, the new Dynotech shaft weighs in at just 15 lbs.
We will be offering these new driveshafts for OEM replacement shafts in the very near future at a great price.

The install photo's speak for themselves, it took about 5 hours for the removal of the stock parts and install of the 9" kit. Jim also had a clutch installed so we were there all day.

Jim is a very happy customer to say the least

Here is Jim's 9" laid out before we packed it up for the trip to SNL (Monster Clutch Co.)




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Here we are at SNL Performance in Fortworth





First off we got everything unpacked and laid out for assembly.

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Step 1 is installing the studs in the housing and putting the pumpkin in.

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Dont forget to put a bead of silicone around the pumpkin, our housings are precision machined so no gasket is needed.

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Next step before tightening down the studs is installing the inner stubs to make sure the pumpkin is lined up with the bearing bores.
Again, a little bit of silicone around the bearings to seal the stubs in.

[IMG]http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c91/nicholscl/Camaro%20-%20G8/BullF-16%209%20Inch%20IRS%20Install/DS****49.jpg[/IMG]

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Next up was installing the new Dynotech driveshaft











All done except for putting cat back on



We didnt have to cut anything on the Stainless works cat back, just had to loosen some clamps and twist some pipes here and there to get everything to clear.







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Old 02-24-2012, 09:47 AM   #2
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Old 02-24-2012, 11:18 AM   #3
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Excellent write-up Chris! I am one happy customer. Only 200 miles left on the clutch and rear end break-in then i can let loose and not worry about leaving parts all over the street.

The car drives better than stock and the tranny feels more connected to the motor. Thanks for driving down to oversee everything....Now thats customer service!
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One hundred miles more till all is broken in! Couldnt resist and hammered on it a bit to get this annoying crotch rocket dude away from me. I guess he thought his wheelys were impressing me. I think it ended with me impressing him. Got a big thumbs up from him at the end of it when he caught back up. No speed limits were harmed in the filming of this episode!

also a shameless bump for GForce engineering and Chris for this truly amazing setup!
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One hundred miles more till all is broken in! Couldnt resist and hammered on it a bit to get this annoying crotch rocket dude away from me. I guess he thought his wheelys were impressing me. I think it ended with me impressing him. Got a big thumbs up from him at the end of it when he caught back up. No speed limits were harmed in the filming of this episode!

also a shameless bump for GForce engineering and Chris for this truly amazing setup!
Isn't that part of the break in process? LOL

I bet he was surprised !
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:38 PM   #6
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That things looks very solid, and I can't say enough about how awesome that was to help you install the product. Cheers to EForce.

I bet you can't wait to slam the pedal into the ground.
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Very nice setup! I really do like the way the new driveshaft is made. The slip joint is nothing like you imagine, it is super tight.
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Great install and nice lifetime warranty...

Good stuff Jim.
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looks good , but take it easy on them new gears..def better set up then the old style m6 dshaft
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Finished the break in last night. I took the car out this morning on the back roads and did some high speed testing. Only got to 140, did not want to push anything. Smooth a glass, not a single noise or vibration felt. Could have easily pushed past 150 but haven't changed the diff fluid yet.
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Finished the break in last night. I took the car out this morning on the back roads and did some high speed testing. Only got to 140, did not want to push anything. Smooth a glass, not a single noise or vibration felt. Could have easily pushed past 150 but haven't changed the diff fluid yet.
Excellent!!
And to think some tried to say that shaft isnt for high speed.. that is down right silly

That new driveshaft is the most innovative product I've seen in a long time, right behind our fabricated 9"
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Always a pleasure working on your car Jim, and nice seeing you Chris, it's been a while.

Glad to hear your enjoying it, this was by far the easiest install on one of these we've done. Very simple bolt in, no cutting, welding, or cussing necessary!
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Always a pleasure working on your car Jim, and nice seeing you Chris, it's been a while.

Glad to hear your enjoying it, this was by far the easiest install on one of these we've done. Very simple bolt in, no cutting, welding, or cussing necessary!

Hey Steve, welcome to Camaro5! Awesome install from you guys BTW! You guys always impress

I'm gonna post a thread in the Texas section to give you guys some credit.
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Always a pleasure working on your car Jim, and nice seeing you Chris, it's been a while.

Glad to hear your enjoying it, this was by far the easiest install on one of these we've done. Very simple bolt in, no cutting, welding, or cussing necessary!
It was good seeing you and your crew again too. I need to get down more often, I love the DFW area.

And agreed, our Camaro 9" kit is one of the best designed products we've come out with yet!
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Took the new setup out to do a couple tests and run the new driveshaft thru its paces. Went out onto the interstate and kept the car in 2nd, went up to 5000 rpm for about a minute, then up to 5500 for about a minute then up to 6000-6300 for another minute. Man my ears are ringing. No vibrations, no issues, no need for a tow truck either. Time to change the gear oil now.
On a side note, i may replace my valve springs at 10 to 15K vs the 20K recommended!

Thanks again GForce. The new driveshaft is the shizzznit! Oh and the 35 spline S-Trac, housing, and 300M axles aren't too bad either!
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Took the new setup out to do a couple tests and run the new driveshaft thru its paces. Went out onto the interstate and kept the car in 2nd, went up to 5000 rpm for about a minute, then up to 5500 for about a minute then up to 6000-6300 for another minute. Man my ears are ringing. No vibrations, no issues, no need for a tow truck either. Time to change the gear oil now.
On a side note, i may replace my valve springs at 10 to 15K vs the 20K recommended!

Thanks again GForce. The new driveshaft is the shizzznit! Oh and the 35 spline S-Trac, housing, and 300M axles aren't too bad either!
LOL.. thanks for putting it through it's paces. Your not going to tear it up but you can sure try

Check out the new driveshaft thread where I tell a little about the new driveshafts
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You guys stop it, making me envious, and I'm not an envy kind of guy. LOL

Chris, you guys need to make some headway up here in the T.dot, I don't think anyone up north doing 9" setups on their Camaro's because we Canadians tend to take a wait and see approach so everyone is waiting for someone to be a guniea pig. Like me. LOL

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Took the new setup out to do a couple tests and run the new driveshaft thru its paces. Went out onto the interstate and kept the car in 2nd, went up to 5000 rpm for about a minute, then up to 5500 for about a minute then up to 6000-6300 for another minute. Man my ears are ringing. No vibrations, no issues, no need for a tow truck either. Time to change the gear oil now.
On a side note, i may replace my valve springs at 10 to 15K vs the 20K recommended!

Thanks again GForce. The new driveshaft is the shizzznit! Oh and the 35 spline S-Trac, housing, and 300M axles aren't too bad either!
Nice. You pushing it real good, that's awesome man. Must be tons a fun being able to beat the snot out of it no worries.
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You guys stop it, making me envious, and I'm not an envy kind of guy. LOL

Chris, you guys need to make some headway up here in the T.dot, I don't think anyone up north doing 9" setups on their Camaro's because we Canadians tend to take a wait and see approach so everyone is waiting for someone to be a guniea pig. Like me. LOL


Nice. You pushing it real good, that's awesome man. Must be tons a fun being able to beat the snot out of it no worries.

When you get ready to order that 9" I'll be glad to set your shop up as a dealer so more Canadians can have our 9" installed.

You asked to let you know about new updates, we now offer the shaft that we installed in BullF-16's car in a 4" version for 1000+hp and 150+ mph ratings.

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When you get ready to order that 9" I'll be glad to set your shop up as a dealer so more Canadians can have our 9" installed.

You asked to let you know about new updates, we now offer the shaft that we installed in BullF-16's car in a 4" version for 1000+hp and 150+ mph ratings.

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Chris, that's awesome news. Just got the vehicle back last week. Only had one decent afternoon to drive it a bit, but it's still pretty lousy weather to finish tuning though so have to wait to see the final verdict when it get's a bit warmer in the next few weeks. Keep up the good work. I received amazing references from a number of the 1000+hp. guys regarding your product.
It's just a matter of time before we get some of those kits up here.
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Chris, that's awesome news. Just got the vehicle back last week. Only had one decent afternoon to drive it a bit, but it's still pretty lousy weather to finish tuning though so have to wait to see the final verdict when it get's a bit warmer in the next few weeks. Keep up the good work. I received amazing references from a number of the 1000+hp. guys regarding your product.
It's just a matter of time before we get some of those kits up here.

My LSX 427 was just ordered today. HKE will build the long block. I think i may need the 4" also in a few months Should eventually be well over a grand to the tires with the procharger F1x
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My LSX 427 was just ordered today. HKE will build the long block. I think i may need the 4" also in a few months Should eventually be well over a grand to the tires with the procharger F1x
Wow, you aint messin around !! I'll have to come down and check it out once the new motor is in
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My LSX 427 was just ordered today. HKE will build the long block. I think i may need the 4" also in a few months Should eventually be well over a grand to the tires with the procharger F1x
Man you gonna' be amazed when you get that 427 it's a whole different ball game. At only 780rwhp. driving on the street I have to get into 3rd. as quickly as possible because too much TQ at 1st. and 2nd. gears on the street, even 3rd. on the street is retarded.
I took it on the hwy a few times, and in 5th. gear I'm still pulling like mad. And, she loving the 94octane fuel 1/4 tank get's chewed up in no time at all.
Are you getting the LSX block? Man you gonna' be like.
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Just got off the phone with Erik at HKE. This man is a genious! This motor will be monstrous.....and the car will finally be done, sans CTS-V brakes and the new ZL-1 upgraded sways you just put out....damn you Pete/Pedders! Quit coming out with better and better stuff
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That's the way to treat the suspension after some heavy mods
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