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Old 06-05-2013, 09:05 PM   #1
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LS9 cam?

Anyone use the LS9 cam in an LS3 with a blower? I just bought one at work for $100 and ordered the SLP TVS2300 from Jannetty along with there header and cold air intake 415 Brawler package. Great guys to deal with by the way! I chose that cam because it is inexpensive and very easy on valvetrain. I'm installing it myself, which only takes a couple hours, my time is free so no lose there. Ted is guessing 25 hp which is good for $150, with gaskets and such, and the LS3 will like it a little better than the NA cam it comes with. Any opnions? Thanks!
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Old 06-06-2013, 07:25 AM   #2
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Does the ls9 cam require a spring change? And are there any aftermarket blower cams that dont require spring changes?
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Old 06-06-2013, 10:16 AM   #3
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You can use LS3 springs with that cam. I have no clue what springs are on the 99 motor. I would use them on naturally aspirated motor, but not with f/i. Spend a little money and at least get some B'hive springs. To get a cam swap done in two hours must have parts and wrenches flying
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Old 06-06-2013, 11:07 AM   #4
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I agree, the LS9 cam is a nice upgrade for the money! The stock LS3 springs will work, but since you are in there it is a nice upgrade to change them out.

Ted is right on with the numbers!
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Old 06-06-2013, 07:06 PM   #5
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Thanks for the input. Cams are easy in these cars, kinda like the gto i owned before this. The c5 vette i had is another story, almost easier dropping the entire drivetrain, which only takes a couple hours to have the body lifted off. I'll think on the springs, can also be done a little later.
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Old 06-06-2013, 07:18 PM   #6
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The LS3 and LS9 valve springs are exactly the same if I remember correctly.

With the LS9 Cam,which I have been considering also,I would stick with the Factory beehive springs.

The LS9 is Supercharged,as we all know,so should work excellent with a Maggie,etc.

Much,Much less valve train wear and won't have to go back in to change them out in a few years as you would with Double springs which are required with most aftermarket Cams.
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Old 06-06-2013, 10:49 PM   #7
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I'm currently running a Whipple and the LS9 cam on the stock LS3 springs. Biggest reasons I went with the LS9 were: Price, idle quality, drivability at low speed, setup from the factory to use the same spring for 100K miles. Sure, it doesn't make the most power, but it makes enough with my meager combination. Good luck with your build!
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:47 AM   #8
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We did a LS9 cam in a 2010 with a whipple a few years ago. Car had a rotofab intake and headers also. With the stock blower pulley it had no problem making 630 at the tire!

There are better options than a LS9 cam but you can't beat the price and it would be easy on the valve train.
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Old 06-07-2013, 11:22 AM   #9
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Not much to add to what has been said before but I put the LS-9 cam with the Edelbrock E-force supercharger and do not regret it at all. Cheapest, easiest and least compromising 25 HP you will ever get.

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Old 06-07-2013, 11:30 PM   #10
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Installed the cam tonight. Ted Jannetty whipped up a tune for me at short notice, use that until I put the charger on wednesday. Took longer than I originally said,a shade over 3 hours, and that included pinning the crank while I was there, and a little BSing of course. Car runs great thanks to Ted. Glad to hear everyone likes the cam and charger combo, makes me look forward to the end result.
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Old 06-08-2013, 08:09 AM   #11
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3 hours is pretty impressive....
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Wow...3 hours....

What you got...3 hands....
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Old 06-08-2013, 10:38 PM   #13
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CTS-V in the 9's with LS9 cam.
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Old 06-08-2013, 11:22 PM   #14
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the LS9 cam is a good cam not bad for an $80 cam. Had it on a turbo 6.2L build I had made 627rwhp @ 10lbs
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Not much to add to what has been said before but I put the LS-9 cam with the Edelbrock E-force supercharger and do not regret it at all. Cheapest, easiest and least compromising 25 HP you will ever get.

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Installed the cam tonight. Ted Jannetty whipped up a tune for me at short notice, use that until I put the charger on wednesday. Took longer than I originally said,a shade over 3 hours, and that included pinning the crank while I was there, and a little BSing of course. Car runs great thanks to Ted. Glad to hear everyone likes the cam and charger combo, makes me look forward to the end result.

I'm so glad someone posted this thread. I was thinking about doing the same thing this morning, just wasn't sure how to go about it. My ultimate goal is to install an Edle Brock SC but wanted to have a mild cam , like the LS9 cam, installed prior to the SC. I would greatly appreciate it if you guys would post individual videos of your setups, for scientific research. LOL .... thanks!
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Old 06-09-2013, 04:41 AM   #16
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just a quick question i have a ls3 2011 camaro how much hp gain i will get from bolt ons and ls9 cam only ?
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I'm so glad someone posted this thread. I was thinking about doing the same thing this morning, just wasn't sure how to go about it. My ultimate goal is to install an Edle Brock SC but wanted to have a mild cam , like the LS9 cam, installed prior to the SC. I would greatly appreciate it if you guys would post individual videos of your setups, for scientific research. LOL .... thanks!
I could make a video but it would bore you to tears. No change in engine idle or exhaust sound. If you want your cam change to be noticeable, you want a different cam. Personally, I like my car mods to be completely stealthy. Look, sound and cruise like stock but the E-force and LS-9 cam setup makes the engine feel like it is 25% bigger than it was before. It's not going to please everybody but it works for me.

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Old 06-09-2013, 06:20 AM   #18
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With my car you can faintly tell that it has a cam in it. A coworker just asked me a couple of days ago if I had "cams" and said that he knew it wasn't a spark miss.

I have a 700rpm idle though, and if I were to get it turned up a little it would disappear most likely.

You can expect an extra 20hp at peak and it will rev a few hundred rpm higher over standard bolt ons. You will lose a little torque down low but the bolt ons will make up for it over stock torque anyway.
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I could make a video but it would bore you to tears. No change in engine idle or exhaust sound. If you want your cam change to be noticeable, you want a different cam. Personally, I like my car mods to be completely stealthy. Look, sound and cruise like stock but the E-force and LS-9 cam setup makes the engine feel like it is 25% bigger than it was before. It's not going to please everybody but it works for me.

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Stealth/sleeper is what im going for and i dont mind getting bored
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Actually had 4 hands, me and a buddy. There easy very slight evidence of a different cam in the exhaust note. I'm happy with it anyway. All you need is a cam, LS9 cam sprocket and 3 cam bolts. Very simple swap. Didn't even pull the A/C refrigerant. My car only has 2000 miles on it so no gaskets and seals needed. A few thousand more miles and I would have replaced cover gasket and crank seal. Take that back, replaced coolant pump gaskets, that's always a given in my opinion. Very happy with how the car performs. Can tell in the seat of my pants and to me that's worth $150.
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Actually had 4 hands, me and a buddy. There easy very slight evidence of a different cam in the exhaust note. I'm happy with it anyway. All you need is a cam, LS9 cam sprocket and 3 cam bolts. Very simple swap. Didn't even pull the A/C refrigerant. My car only has 2000 miles on it so no gaskets and seals needed. A few thousand more miles and I would have replaced cover gasket and crank seal. Take that back, replaced coolant pump gaskets, that's always a given in my opinion. Very happy with how the car performs. Can tell in the seat of my pants and to me that's worth $150.
That's great, any other mods like headers or exhaust? I would like to hear the subtle difference , if possible. I wish I had friends like you that could help me swap out a cam in roughly 3 hours. I'm sure your 1LE is is just that much better now. So other than the parts you listed nothing else is required to make it work or fit in the LS3?
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Old 06-09-2013, 05:37 PM   #22
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Headers and CAI right now. Have npp exhaust. Only other thing required is a tune.
This swap is very easy actually. If it makes you feel better follow the DIY section for cam swap, I checked it out before doing mine since it's the first 5th gen I've done and found a couple helpful tips. No need to raise the car in the air or on stands as long as you can reach the coolant petcock to drain radiator. The whole jod is only a matter of nuts and bolts and a little "attention to detail" when installing the new cam gear and aligning the marks.
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Thanks ! I'll definitely take a look at that thread. I would like to see some numbers if you ever get your 1LE on the Dyno.
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Old 06-09-2013, 07:55 PM   #24
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Installing the SLP TVS2300 wednesday night so I won't have any numbers for this combo.
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I would still like to see the numbers that your 1LE puts out with the SC. My ultimate goal is to have a SC on the Camaro with the LS9 cam, headers, and CAI.
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