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Old 06-29-2009, 08:20 PM   #1
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5 cars at City Chevrolet

Pretty sad I rode by other day and they had 5 camaros lined up outside. I am fairly sure they are all for sale as the yellow V6 is the one I test drove. I know they have them listed for over msrp even though they took and are delivering preorders at MSRP. Its just a shame I ordered from them in February and haven't even moved through the system yet and they have 5 cars sitting on their lot.

Edit i finally moved to 2000 and today already to 3000.
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Old 06-30-2009, 08:42 AM   #2
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Don't blame City

Yes City has 5 cars sitting on the lot, however it isn't because we haven't been trying to take care of our customers. It is because some of the less than reputable dealers across the country have been failing to take care of theirs. Other dealers are selling these vehicles through brokers for prices in excess of MSRP...this puts us in a position to satisfy some consumers need for a car ASAP and puts us in a position to help build our allocation as GM goes to a turn to earn allocation. Ideally we will sell these cars, hopefully not lose money on them as the market turns, and help get our sold orders delivered faster. Thanks for allowing me to vent.
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Old 06-30-2009, 08:46 AM   #3
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Yes City has 5 cars sitting on the lot, however it isn't because we haven't been trying to take care of our customers. It is because some of the less than reputable dealers across the country have been failing to take care of theirs. Other dealers are selling these vehicles through brokers for prices in excess of MSRP...this puts us in a position to satisfy some consumers need for a car ASAP and puts us in a position to help build our allocation as GM goes to a turn to earn allocation. Ideally we will sell these cars, hopefully not lose money on them as the market turns, and help get our sold orders delivered faster. Thanks for allowing me to vent.
These brokers would not be able to sell them if there was not a buyer. So you are getting the sales card with the cars you are buying?
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Old 06-30-2009, 08:47 AM   #4
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Well if it helps me get my order faster I'm all for it, we just frown upon cars being sold over MSRP on here.
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Old 06-30-2009, 08:48 AM   #5
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Yes City has 5 cars sitting on the lot, however it isn't because we haven't been trying to take care of our customers. It is because some of the less than reputable dealers across the country have been failing to take care of theirs. Other dealers are selling these vehicles through brokers for prices in excess of MSRP...this puts us in a position to satisfy some consumers need for a car ASAP and puts us in a position to help build our allocation as GM goes to a turn to earn allocation. Ideally we will sell these cars, hopefully not lose money on them as the market turns, and help get our sold orders delivered faster. Thanks for allowing me to vent.
Don't use that sorry excuse of buying cars from other dealers at over Stricker, which then leaves you no other choice but to selling for over that stricker price you paid. It's your fault for doing a dumb deal. You are being greedy because you assume that people are buying these cars so fast so lets get them through other dealers although we will pay over stricker, but thats ok because people will buy them for over stricker. I hope it backfires on your greedy asses and you lose money because you shouldn't be taking that risk. Greed is Greed and that's all you are doing.
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Old 06-30-2009, 11:59 AM   #6
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:34 PM   #7
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i test drove the silver ss 2 days ago with tim! it was awesome! i just cant wait to get mine!
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Old 07-01-2009, 09:00 AM   #8
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i test drove the silver ss 2 days ago with tim! it was awesome! i just cant wait to get mine!
Was it a 6-speed???
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Yes City has 5 cars sitting on the lot, however it isn't because we haven't been trying to take care of our customers. It is because some of the less than reputable dealers across the country have been failing to take care of theirs. Other dealers are selling these vehicles through brokers for prices in excess of MSRP...this puts us in a position to satisfy some consumers need for a car ASAP and puts us in a position to help build our allocation as GM goes to a turn to earn allocation. Ideally we will sell these cars, hopefully not lose money on them as the market turns, and help get our sold orders delivered faster. Thanks for allowing me to vent.
TOTAL B.S.
That is so lame!!!! Come up with something better than that or don't try and defend your dealership!!! Trying to get over MSRP is pathetic! You shouldn't be able to even post on here if that is what you do. You should be ashamed!!! Put yourself in jpsupermans shoes and ask yourself what you would think if it was you that placed your order in Feb. and your still not moving through the process. I bet you wouldn't look at it the same then!!!
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:03 PM   #10
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JPSUPERMAN like many other customers ORDERED a vehicle...there isn't a dealership that could fill a order for a vehicle by buying the vehicle from a source other than GM. Trust me if we could fill our sold orders faster we would some things are beyond our control. Most customers want the Camaro they ordered not whatever the dealership managed to buy from wherever they could get one. By buying the cars we are in a position to take advantage of Public Relation opportunities and we have something for consumers to touch so they can make the right decision in ordering the vehicle they desire. You would be surprised at how many of our customers are happy because we stepped out on a limb so they could see a vehicle similiar to what they ordered in person. It may seem dumb to some narrow minded people for a dealership to purchase a vehicle over MSRP and expect to get out of it without taking a hit, however a car is just like any other commodity SUPPLY and DEMAND will rule markets and there is nothing that can be done to change that. If our management decided to stick it to our customers that ordered vehicles I could understand getting flamed by people like you. I don't know what kind of business you are in but I can tell you that you don't get to go to work everyday because you buy products and turn around and sell them for less than you paid. Do some research these cars ARE selling at auctions as PRE OWNED vehicles for more than MSRP! If a dealer has done something to upset you I am SORRY!!! Please don't take it out on us considering you have probably never done business with us!!! We have a outstanding reputation in our community and throughout our owner base. We do everything we can do to make sure we have Completley Satisfied customers we have done everything within our power and make every effort to get our orders moving and into our customers hands as soon as possible. I have received calls from customers that have ordered from other dealerships and have helped them figure out what was going on with the vehicle they were expecting...how many other dealerships would go through the trouble to do that for a random customer on the phone that has already commited to buying from somewhere else?

BTW...I am not here to solicit business, I am here because I love all of the excitement surrounding the Camaro...I have been trolling the site for a long time and I use some of the information that I find to help me in business, just yesterday I got with my service department about the spoiler bolts coming loose and one of our Advisors had a customer coming in with the rattling sound in the trunk...this site helps us stay on top of those things, who knows how long it would take for a bulletin from GM...I should not be banned from posting on this site...maybe you should!!!
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Old 07-02-2009, 10:25 PM   #11
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Adrian,
the problem people here have is, we don't like to see ANY business jack a car above a "msrp" stage because it gives you guys plenty of money even at the msrp rate to make a profit. It doesn't mean u guys have to jack up a car to sell it. Look at it from our standpoint. The average joe can't afford to pay above retail due to the fact that the car will at some point NOT be worth it.
IF someone buys this car for $2 grand above retail, a year from now, it WON"T be worth it. This does NOT help your customer nor you guys for hi-jacking your customers to the tune of $3 thousand above invoice.
All it does is leave a bad taste in the customer's mouth and believe me, everyone will remember the dealers who dealt them above msrp. The reason GM puts out a msrp, is hopefully you guys will adhere to it to give a 'reasonable' pricepoint on this car. It looks like greed has won out on this end.
I don't wanna hear that you're providing a service, because frankly, you guys are running off of our taxpaying money right now, so that sorta makes you folks a little more accountable to joe q. taxpayer at the moment. Some dealers won't admit that this has become an 'open season' on people's emotions and that fact that it is a hot car and it has been a fiasco for the common guy to try to get one at a reasonable cost. I find it in very bad taste in this economic climate for any car manufacturer to take advantage of the situation after all the bailouts and i sincerely hope that this comes back in the face of all dealers who think they have to inflate the price to the level of ridiculous proportions. No amount of your reasoning will change the majority of us here who want this car at a price we can all live with.
you keep the car at msrp, keep yourself honest and treat us right, and you get a customer for life.
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Old 07-02-2009, 11:24 PM   #12
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the problem people here have is, we don't like to see ANY business jack a car above a "msrp" stage because it gives you guys plenty of money even at the msrp rate to make a profit. It doesn't mean u guys have to jack up a car to sell it. Look at it from our standpoint. The average joe can't afford to pay above retail due to the fact that the car will at some point NOT be worth it.
IF someone buys this car for $2 grand above retail, a year from now, it WON"T be worth it. This does NOT help your customer nor you guys for hi-jacking your customers to the tune of $3 thousand above invoice.
All it does is leave a bad taste in the customer's mouth and believe me, everyone will remember the dealers who dealt them above msrp. The reason GM puts out a msrp, is hopefully you guys will adhere to it to give a 'reasonable' pricepoint on this car. It looks like greed has won out on this end.
I don't wanna hear that you're providing a service, because frankly, you guys are running off of our taxpaying money right now, so that sorta makes you folks a little more accountable to joe q. taxpayer at the moment. Some dealers won't admit that this has become an 'open season' on people's emotions and that fact that it is a hot car and it has been a fiasco for the common guy to try to get one at a reasonable cost. I find it in very bad taste in this economic climate for any car manufacturer to take advantage of the situation after all the bailouts and i sincerely hope that this comes back in the face of all dealers who think they have to inflate the price to the level of ridiculous proportions. No amount of your reasoning will change the majority of us here who want this car at a price we can all live with.
you keep the car at msrp, keep yourself honest and treat us right, and you get a customer for life.
My store is selling at MSRP. As long as people pay over msrp you will have stores trying to make more money. Please don't act like this never happened before. If someone comes in and offers 5k over on our floor model I am taking it. I have two more going this week at sticker. That is number4 and 5 for me at sticker. None of our other sales people have sold any over sticker. Our store has sold to many Camaro 5 members.
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Old 07-02-2009, 11:30 PM   #13
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espo19047,

There are also plenty of dealers that are willing to do GMS and Supplier discounts unlike your dealership so I won't repeat it but there is a little saying about glass houses that comes to mind.
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Old 07-03-2009, 02:49 PM   #14
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espo, i don't have a problem with anything you're saying..
my problem has been, dealers are a part of the whole umbrella of GM.
you guys got bailed out with taxpayers money. that makes it a very tenuous situation with dealers charging more than msrp. i equate that to biting the very hand that feeds you. If any dealer has no problem charging thousands above msrp, then it sends a message that they truly don't mind ramming up the butts of the average joe, which btw paid for your bailout without any say-so. We can argue all day about right or wrong with charging more, but the bottom line is, most dealers see that there's an opportunity to play on people's desires and emotions, and it ends up being a bad situation for the average customer who ends up buying this car for more than 'retail'..
i don't know how much plainer i can put it. If u were in the same situation and not working at a dealer, would u want your salesperson or sales manager to tell you they're gonna ask 2,3,5 or 10 thousand more than the suggested manufacturers price?????????????????
common sense would say no, but that doesn't change the business practices of most dealers out there. I just get tired of the situation, and it makes me mad that america paid out a large sum of money to keep gm afloat, and they still file bankruptcy, reorganize with even more sums of cash, and then we get to hear dealers say they're gonna charge above msrp. i guess this will never be an agreed upon situation between customer/dealer and i'll be curious how this all plays out a year or two from now..
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