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Old 06-06-2013, 10:35 PM   #26
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Old 06-07-2013, 05:04 AM   #27
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I do believe that they measure HP a little differently in Europe. They use BHP (Brake Horsepower). I know that in the UK the ratings are always a few hp higher than the same car in the US.
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Old 06-07-2013, 05:41 AM   #28
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If they were rated at 400hp why is it that they make more? GM techs are saying 415hp on 13s and up! Its all over the forums look it up.... I'm done, thanks for reading my post
I must not read enough forums. I have never seen/heard of an L99 making 415hp from factory.

But if its on the Internet, it must be true..
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:24 AM   #29
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I must not read enough forums. I have never seen/heard of an L99 making 415hp from factory.

But if its on the Internet, it must be true..
Reason for that is that is there was confusion about the new auto Chevy ss had 415hp. I think it was later discovered it wasn't a l99 engine but a LS3
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:26 AM   #30
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I could also be completely wrong though
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:35 AM   #31
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If it makes you sleep at night ok , I have a family member working for GM that can prove 13s are making more, the 14 L99s will be rated @ 415hp same as the new chevy SS.
The Chevy SS uses a LS3 not L99.
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:03 AM   #32
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Also I can see 13s making a few ponies maybe. Weren't they the first to introduce electric steering. Or was that 2012
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:09 AM   #33
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Dynos are also not so much a tool to show you where you currently stand. But moreso how much of an increase you have gone through. Otherwise all Dino's would be standardized and would measure the exact same. Unfortunately...they don't. Unless GM changes the ratings on the l99 it will remain the same. Remind me did they ever change 2010 ratings for the v6? I'm sure they did cause they said they were using the cts ratings if I'm correct
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:13 AM   #34
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Stock Camaro SS rating:
L99= 400
LS3 = 426

That all, carry on with your FRIDAY
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OK I retrack my post, just keep in mind the LS3 on the Chevy ss makes 415hp which makes the L99 ss less attractive. The 14s will get a bump the 13s DNA will be in them might not be rated from GM.
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:23 AM   #36
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The Chevy SS uses a LS3 not L99.
Yes, I am aware of that. the 14 L99 will get a simalir HP bump,
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:23 AM   #37
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OK I retrack my post, just keep in mind the LS3 on the Chevy ss makes 415hp which makes the L99 ss less attractive. The 14s will get a bump the 13s DNA will be in them might not be rated from GM.
Sorry but have to at this.

I can see it now:

Me: Do you have an L99 Camaro I can look at?
Saleman: We do. But we also have an overpriced, 4 door sedan, the new SS. It has an LS3 and has 15 more HP then the Camaro. Might not look as good but it does have 15 more HP!
Me: Sold! I'll take the SS
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:46 AM   #38
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Sorry but have to at this.

I can see it now:

Me: Do you have an L99 Camaro I can look at?
Saleman: We do. But we also have an overpriced, 4 door sedan, the new SS. It has an LS3 and has 15 more HP then the Camaro. Might not look as good but it does have 15 more HP!
Me: Sold! I'll take the SS
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Some people lol...

My dealer told me my SS has 450 HP so it must be true! They added the boddy kit that helps push the weight lower to the ground so it doesnt have to work as hard. Thats why i have 24 HP more then a normal SS.

Believe it or not i have actually been told that before by someone.

Seriously though just because your car dynoed 5 HP more then someone with a 2012 doesnt mean the rating changed from GM.
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If it makes you sleep at night ok , I have a family member working for GM that can prove 13s are making more, the 14 L99s will be rated @ 415hp same as the new chevy SS.

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Old 06-07-2013, 11:08 AM   #42
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432hp vs 426hp = + 1.4%. Probably within EPA tolerances and not worth raising a fuss over in the US.

Otherwise could be a different tune since European fuels have higher octane.
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Old 06-07-2013, 12:09 PM   #43
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OK I retrack my post, just keep in mind the LS3 on the Chevy ss makes 415hp which makes the L99 ss less attractive. The 14s will get a bump the 13s DNA will be in them might not be rated from GM.
While we're on the SS topic, I read that it's an AUTO LS3, without AFM! Is this true? Leave it to the numbskulls at GM to do this to a 4-door "family" sedan, but they cut the balls off the auto Camaro by sticking it with AFM.
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Old 06-07-2013, 12:12 PM   #44
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Old 06-07-2013, 12:15 PM   #45
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Sorry but have to at this.

I can see it now:

Me: Do you have an L99 Camaro I can look at?
Saleman: We do. But we also have an overpriced, 4 door sedan, the new SS. It has an LS3 and has 15 more HP then the Camaro. Might not look as good but it does have 15 more HP!
Me: Sold! I'll take the SS
I cant swallow that. The SS SuckS
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Old 06-07-2013, 12:44 PM   #46
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Im with the guys saying that its just different ratings/tunes/measurements for europe.
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Old 06-07-2013, 05:47 PM   #47
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While we're on the SS topic, I read that it's an AUTO LS3, without AFM! Is this true? Leave it to the numbskulls at GM to do this to a 4-door "family" sedan, but they cut the balls off the auto Camaro by sticking it with AFM.
I know right lol, But L99 owners are free of gas guzzler tax, as for the SS they get taxed. IDK GM would do this but I like the fact the L99 was offered.
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Old 06-07-2013, 06:01 PM   #48
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Dynos are also not so much a tool to show you where you currently stand. But moreso how much of an increase you have gone through. Otherwise all Dino's would be standardized and would measure the exact same. Unfortunately...they don't. Unless GM changes the ratings on the l99 it will remain the same. Remind me did they ever change 2010 ratings for the v6? I'm sure they did cause they said they were using the cts ratings if I'm correct
It will never be the same, you can take the same dyno, to Los Angeles and take a reading then move it to Denver on the exact same car and you will get different HP readings. Just like comparing quarter mile times in two different places or even different times of the year. If the conditions are not exactly the same you will get different readings.

Yes the 2010 V6 used the CTS certification rating of 304HP, then ford came up with a rating of 305hp in 2010 on the Mustang V6. So for 2011 GM had the V6 certified in the Camaro and it came out as 312HP with no changes in tuning or the engine.
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If they were rated at 400hp why is it that they make more? GM techs are saying 415hp on 13s and up! Its all over the forums look it up.... I'm done, thanks for reading my post
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So GM had the V6 certified in the Camaro and it came out as 312HP with no changes in tuning or the engine.

No they re-certified it when Ford's new V6 in their Mustang was rated higher than the 3.6 GM.
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