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Old 06-14-2013, 08:21 PM   #26
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Out of the 3 cars the 392 was clearly my favorite. The car was really quick. I am pretty sure it is capable of stock 12:20s as a few others have done. My quickest runs were with TC on which gave me high 1:80-1:90 60' times, with it off the best I could do is 2:05. It took me awhile to figure out that I wasn't faster than the computer . Had I been able to launch it properly with out computer nannies who knows what it would have run.
That's really impresive
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Ordered a billet twin carbon today,Thomas was very helpful answered all my ? will let you all know how install and driving is ,cant wait to get the monster out!
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Ordered a billet twin carbon today,Thomas was very helpful answered all my ? will let you all know how install and driving is ,cant wait to get the monster out!
Thanks for the order!!! Looking forward to your review
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This is an interesting thread. I had the Street slayer carbon carbon twin but I over powered it and it started to slip. 2006 GTO twin turbo a 830whp/810wtq with 3.07 gears and 14lbs of boost. Car is headed to the mile next year where I'll be turning up the boost closer if not a tad over the 1k hp/tq mark.

While doing my homework on a good triple I contacted Monster to see what they had to offer their triple is rated for 12/1500whp but I got the distinct impression I was going to be the guinea pig and I'm not into that kind of thing. The only good reviews ive read about their twin is from guys pushing about 450whp. I'm pretty sure any twin will hold that power.

After all was said and done I got the street slayer carbon carbon triple and I couldn't be happier. My wife still enjoys driving the car in Tampa traffic, very street friendly piece. When I pulled the carbon carbon twin it looked as good as when I put it in. It's now in a 640hp vette running around tearing up the pavement without issue and Helped me recoup a couple of bucks.

I'm a noob here and I'm not in a Camaro I'm mainly here looking at a replacement transmission for my T56 Ive heard some good and not so good things about your transmissions and how they perform once built so ill get back to doing my research and reading your tranny threads

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Awesome input from someone with a GTO! Glad to hear they're badass for those as well. I bet the triple is ridiculous! Does the Triple engage like the twin?
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Awesome input from someone with a GTO! Glad to hear they're badass for those as well. I bet the triple is ridiculous! Does the Triple engage like the twin?
Street manners are the same. Very easy clutch to drive easy or hard. Ill post up a few pics without doing a thread hijack I've gone thru alot of clutches trying to get the right one. This is a street car so I didn't want an on and off switch. I wanted something that could handle the power and be driven on the street without issue. This really is a great piece and after spending a few k on clutches this is well worth the price IMOP. Now I can worry about other things and not my clutch.



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holy crap...... man im glad you started this thread last friday my twin centerforce showed its end is near. it started slipping and although its been a great clutch i know there better out there and i was almost to the point of buying the monster triple disc, but im feeling a little hesitant bout the monster products now.....
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holy crap...... man im glad you started this thread last friday my twin centerforce showed its end is near. it started slipping and although its been a great clutch i know there better out there and i was almost to the point of buying the monster triple disc, but im feeling a little hesitant bout the monster products now.....
With the Street Slayer when it finally goes,with its surface area it will last a LONG LONG time,but it can be rebuilt for a fraction of the cost of a new clutch...If I can help you out give me a call anytime.
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holy crap...... man im glad you started this thread last friday my twin centerforce showed its end is near. it started slipping and although its been a great clutch i know there better out there and i was almost to the point of buying the monster triple disc, but im feeling a little hesitant bout the monster products now.....
Glad you're hesitating! May be the best decision you've made yet. Street slayer for the win!
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so street slayer it will be for me as well
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This is an interesting thread. I had the Street slayer carbon carbon twin but I over powered it and it started to slip. 2006 GTO twin turbo a 830whp/810wtq with 3.07 gears and 14lbs of boost. Car is headed to the mile next year where I'll be turning up the boost closer if not a tad over the 1k hp/tq mark.

While doing my homework on a good triple I contacted Monster to see what they had to offer their triple is rated for 12/1500whp but I got the distinct impression I was going to be the guinea pig and I'm not into that kind of thing. The only good reviews ive read about their twin is from guys pushing about 450whp. I'm pretty sure any twin will hold that power.

After all was said and done I got the street slayer carbon carbon triple and I couldn't be happier. My wife still enjoys driving the car in Tampa traffic, very street friendly piece. When I pulled the carbon carbon twin it looked as good as when I put it in. It's now in a 640hp vette running around tearing up the pavement without issue and Helped me recoup a couple of bucks.

I'm a noob here and I'm not in a Camaro I'm mainly here looking at a replacement transmission for my T56 Ive heard some good and not so good things about your transmissions and how they perform once built so ill get back to doing my research and reading your tranny threads

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Rick, nice write up... I also run the triple... I have a suggestion for a trans builder if you want... My trans is all billet, shafts and gears, triple cone synchros, bronze followers, etc... With my clutch and trans, shifts and breakage are pretty much gone for me...

What Mile event are you going to run... I run the Texas Mile... If that's where you're headed, look me up... Love to see the GTO...
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We always stand behind our product and have many satisfied customers besides in just the GTO community. We've had quite a bit of clutches easily exceed 60k miles with hard abuse and daily driving. Some guys have issues, that doesn't make us a bad company - it makes us human. It's how we stand behind our product that makes us different and if you've had issues you should be able to say we've done (or did) all we can (could) to make you happy - within reason of course. Obviously I can't be on every phone call and employees will do and say things that they flat just shouldn't, so, if you get a response from us that sounds like it just isn't right chances are it's not. I always encourage anyone that has any issues, comments, concerns, or even ideas to contact me directly - especially if you're having an issue with our units.

There are a group of roughly 15 or so guys on this site that are very vocal about the bad luck they had with Monsters out of the hundreds sold to Gen 5 customers and they have every right to have and voice their opinions - however - that does NOT mean that issues are the norm for our units. If issues were the norm for our clutches we simply wouldn't be in business. To say that all companies are error/issue free is just plain dumb, I don't care who we're referring to in the clutch industry - we've all have issues in one way or another.

OP - I understand your frustration with our clutch as you've been posting about it since last year and I sincerely wished we could have helped to resolve the issue. Every aftermarket clutch uses some kind of modification to their units to work with whatever vehicle they are attempting to install it in - this isn't rocket science. It does make for a great marketing tool to say we've built these for these cars specifically, but, that doesn't make it true. I've also seen numerous clutch companies use modified slaves or slaves off of other quite random vehicles (Ford Rangers) to adapt their units to work with the 5th Gen Camaros - this clearly shows it's not "designed specifically for your Camaro". At this point all I can do is apologize and I have no issues doing that publicly.

As always if anyone has any questions or concerns, we are here to help. Whether it be one of our clutches or not that is what we're here for.
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when your staff tells me I need to learn how to drive a standard isn't the answer. I own two customer service based businesses and I can say that with those types of "cancers" that you employ and call staff is going to negatively affect how one responds toward your brand. I've never been a more satisfied customer with Thomas at HE. Not one time have I ever been talked down to or belittled by him or his staff. I'm sure you do have happy customers and you probably have customers that don't know an avenue to speak out or the balls. I am speaking out because I spent over $1500-$2000 for something that squealed and shuddered and ended up completely losing the faces on the float plate. If a customer told me in one of my restaurants that one of my staff told them to if they aren't happy with their dish then they need to learn how to eat. I'd fire them on the spot. Your clutch was not streetable nor did it have any kind of manners. Loud rude and a shudderbug. Sorry Steve you lost me after I was told I was a rookie driver in other words. This is my ninth performance car with a manual transmission. It now drives and feels like it should. Your clutch made me hate my car so bad I contemplated selling it because of the hassle of it having to go round and round at the shop. Thanks for the apology but its beyond repair and I now have a car that I'm willing to drive.
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when your staff tells me I need to learn how to drive a standard isn't the answer. I own two customer service based businesses and I can say that with those types of "cancers" that you employ and call staff is going to negatively affect how one responds toward your brand. I've never been a more satisfied customer with Thomas at HE. Not one time have I ever been talked down to or belittled by him or his staff. I'm sure you do have happy customers and you probably have customers that don't know an avenue to speak out or the balls. I am speaking out because I spent over $1500-$2000 for something that squealed and shuddered and ended up completely losing the faces on the float plate. If a customer told me in one of my restaurants that one of my staff told them to if they aren't happy with their dish then they need to learn how to eat. I'd fire them on the spot. Your clutch was not streetable nor did it have any kind of manners. Loud rude and a shudderbug. Sorry Steve you lost me after I was told I was a rookie driver in other words. This is my ninth performance car with a manual transmission. It now drives and feels like it should. Your clutch made me hate my car so bad I contemplated selling it because of the hassle of it having to go round and round at the shop. Thanks for the apology but its beyond repair and I now have a car that I'm willing to drive.
That I can understand completely - if someone told me I didn't know how to drive a manual trans car I'd be inclined to give them a piece of my mind, and, having spent the ~$700 for the clutch, I would have demanded to talk to the manager/owner. I can assure you I wouldn't tell you to learn how to drive a manual unless something was incredibly blatant and even then it wouldn't happen. Now, if you're one of my friends and we were taking stabs at each other that would be one thing, but, it's not something I do nor do I train my staff to do.

I do have thousands of happy customers, hundreds of those are in the Camaro5 community. There are hundreds and hundreds of posts praising our clutches, from Fbody's to C6 cars and everything - 5th Gen Camaros included - in between. This is the information age and to say people do not have an avenue to complain, or to say people don't have the balls, is a bit absurd.

As far as you saying the clutch lost it's faces on the float plate, that doesn't make any sense to me. You had a single disc, there isn't a floater... maybe you're referring to the disc. Regardless, there was obviously an issue with the clutch and the fact that my guys completely disregarded this and blamed you for everything does nothing but piss me off. At this point, there isn't anything I can do for you but continue to apologize. I'm glad the RPS in your car is doing the job, they're nice pieces for sure.
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Thanks that's awesome to hear ,you've got a long list of mods and im glad were at the top. Now lets get that 10 second pass!
I did pick me up some 17" Bogarts so it just a matter of me getting some slicks on it now. I did put some MT DRs on my 20's so if weather permits I will get to the track tonight and try the Mts out. But not good track prep on Tuesday but I would be happy with a 1.7-1.8 60ft time LOL 2.0 is getting old.
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Steve as Sin stated in earlier post i must agree with him was told by your staff I needed to work on my driving as this clutch will drive different from the stock one.Which i can also would have to agree with because it was 30 years ago when i had a 4 paddle clutch in my 69 camaro it would shudder when you let out the clutch and i could live with that but not push it into 3rd and have one shudder so bad i cant see the hud or drive along in 3rd and hit the gas and it shudders.But i thank you for you apology as ive learned about cars over the last 40 yrs is like your sometimes you have to suck it and move on.
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I did pick me up some 17" Bogarts so it just a matter of me getting some slicks on it now. I did put some MT DRs on my 20's so if weather permits I will get to the track tonight and try the Mts out. But not good track prep on Tuesday but I would be happy with a 1.7-1.8 60ft time LOL 2.0 is getting old.
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Steve as Sin stated in earlier post i must agree with him was told by your staff I needed to work on my driving as this clutch will drive different from the stock one.Which i can also would have to agree with because it was 30 years ago when i had a 4 paddle clutch in my 69 camaro it would shudder when you let out the clutch and i could live with that but not push it into 3rd and have one shudder so bad i cant see the hud or drive along in 3rd and hit the gas and it shudders.But i thank you for you apology as ive learned about cars over the last 40 yrs is like your sometimes you have to suck it and move on.
I think we're on the same page, but, I'm having trouble understanding your post.

I would absolutely be livid if someone blamed my driving style for an issue that, to me, is something that's the parts fault. I can see if the customer is riding the clutch or there is a leak, etc. that is causing issues with the clutch - but when it's been through numerous master cylinders and the thing is squealing and chattering my guys should have taken care of it and not passed it off on the customer.

To say that aggravates me is an understatement - but as I said before, at this point all I can do is apologize. This is NOT the norm for my company, you can research and clearly see that the norm for my company is produce a great product and if things come up TAKE CARE OF THE CUSTOMER.
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I did pick me up some 17" Bogarts so it just a matter of me getting some slicks on it now. I did put some MT DRs on my 20's so if weather permits I will get to the track tonight and try the Mts out. But not good track prep on Tuesday but I would be happy with a 1.7-1.8 60ft time LOL 2.0 is getting old.
Completely off topic; give us a call and ask for Chris, he's one of the best 6 speed drivers I know. His personal C5 went 1.4x 60's with a little over 420rwhp. He will be more than happy to go over driving styles and helpful pointers to get your car down the track faster. With the power you make you should be solidly into the 10's without issues.
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Steve i have a 2012 Camaro with your twin in it has 5000 miles on car 600 miles on clutch at 40 mph the clutch shudder so bad the dash shakes cant drive the car like that has org.master cyl no leaks,and im not riding the clutch,and i ruled that out becaue it the 1 st thing that came to mind.but made sure that was not the case.Asked it i need to measure anything before install cause instructions didnt say.your staff said that your clutches were built rt on.That was my mistake might be slipping in my old age should have measure it for myself. If you would like to reach me my # is 785-969-8786. Jim Robison

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I really think that there is a design flaw in this clutch when it comes to the application in a 5th gen. I know there are many GTO owners are very happy with the product. IMO I think there has to be something wrong for this many users to be having issues. I am sure there are many others who have issues that just do not post on the forum about it.

Steve, maybe you would be better served to take another look at the product quality and design rather than making apologies for your product and staff. Monster would not be the first manufacturer / vendor in this forum to make design changes to their product based on user feedback. Just my opinion.
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