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Old 06-19-2013, 11:45 AM   #51
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Steve i have a 2012 Camaro with your twin in it has 5000 miles on car 600 miles on clutch at 40 mph the clutch shudder so bad the dash shakes cant drive the car like that has org.master cyl no leaks,and im not riding the clutch,and i ruled that out becaue it the 1 st thing that came to mind.but made sure that was not the case.Asked it i need to measure anything before install cause instructions didnt say.your staff said that your clutches were built rt on.That was my mistake might be slipping in my old age should have measure it for myself. If you would like to reach me my # is 785-969-8786. Jim Robison
Jim -

What you're describing isn't making sense. A clutch chatters when you engage it, not when you're driving down the road. There is no reason to measure our twins as we set them up by hand. Also, the stack height isn't going to affect chatter at all.

John told me he spoke with you about this issue - either myself or Chris will call you shortly and see if we can address it over the phone. Regardless of the issue we'll make it right.

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I really think that there is a design flaw in this clutch when it comes to the application in a 5th gen. I know there are many GTO owners are very happy with the product. IMO I think there has to be something wrong for this many users to be having issues. I am sure there are many others who have issues that just do not post on the forum about it.

Steve, maybe you would be better served to take another look at the product quality and design rather than making apologies for your product and staff. Monster would not be the first manufacturer / vendor in this forum to make design changes to their product based on user feedback. Just my opinion.
I think you miss the point.

There are a handful of you guys with issues in the 5th gen market on Camaro 5. We've sold a few hundred to 5th gen owners and many of those guys are very happy with the units. I've personally installed 7 in customers cars local and my techs have installed at least another 20 or so. Not to mention our dealer/distributor network of customers and the hundreds of guys we have sold to nationally. I've looked at the product and we've tested the setup numerous times. In the beginning we made some minor changes to the setups, but, stack height and lift/release is a pretty simple and straight forward thing. Plate load and friction coefficient is another. There isn't a design flaw in any way, though, I do appreciate the response.

The last time I checked the car that has the heads/cam record had a Monster in it. You guys seem to be hung up on the fact we make these for the GTO - we also sell tons to the 4th gen Camaro guys, C5 cars, C6 cars, and a hell of a lot of cars world wide that we don't have access to. If we didn't do the research to make sure our clutches do what we say they will and if we had an issue with every single clutch we sold to guys in the 5th gen Camaro and other cars as well we just simply would not be in business guys - it wouldn't be possible. We also wouldn't have the reputation we would if all we sold was garbage.

Clutches are a wear part, their installation, break in, and overall selection of the unit in your car all play vital roles in performance and longetivity of the unit. Once we build and ship them a lot of what can go wrong is completely out of our hands... but we still back our stuff without issue.

And just a heads up, we've got a CTSV here that makes 800rwhp with a RPS triple in it. Any highway pulls and the clutch slips and goes to the floor - we'll be replacing it with a Monster. Is this customer going to get on this forum and say something? No. Point is, all clutch manufacturers have issues with units from time to time, that is the name of the game and anyone telling you different is a liar.
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All i know is that when the time comes a Monster triple will be in my car. SNL is an outstanding company and has built most of my car with the exception of the Pedders suspension. I know how much work went into the design of their twins and triples. I would be running one now but Steve was not quite ready to release the new clutches when my new motor went in and wanted to make sure it was perfect and every little detail ironed out. Hell, they even installed my McLeod RXT!

I have been to this shop numerous times and have seen first hand the number of extremely happy folks with Monster clutches. It is indeed unfortunate for the few in this thread that have issues with their clutches.

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Tommy, mine may have a problem then... It says "let's go ...NOW". ...

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Old 06-19-2013, 09:34 PM   #57
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Mine doesn't say Street Slayer, but it is a Street Slayer.

which clutch did you get bud?? and what is the power rating??
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which clutch did you get bud?? and what is the power rating??
It's the twin carbon. Don't remember how much it's rated for.
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Old 06-20-2013, 09:34 AM   #59
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Tommy, mine may have a problem then... It says "let's go ...NOW". ...

Still absolutely love this Clutch... Easily worth every penny spent...
AWESOME! LOL,The Street Slayer isn't the cheapest out there,the raw materials for a GREAT clutch cost more,but I think its by far the best value when you consider how long they last and the fact there rebuildable,and they don't eat slaves . I wont call the member out but we have a Camaro 5 member that bought the Street Slayer triple,a big investment for sure anyway he had it in a few months and called me back and bought ANOTHER one!.He said when the time came for a rebuild he didn't want to have the car down for one day ,he enjoyed driving the car that much. I think that speaks volumes for the Street Slayer....Thanks for the support guys
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I was thinking the same thing about mine
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Well I guess I should say make sure is says Street Slayer in the box lol....
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Old 07-04-2013, 11:17 PM   #63
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hay all i have a stock 2011 ls3 camaro which street slayer clutch should i buy cause my stock clutch is almost done for now ? any help or advice guys
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Centerforce DYAD Clutch is where it's at! So far I have 1500 miles on mine and no issues. It feels great and has very very little chatter!
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hay all i have a stock 2011 ls3 camaro which street slayer clutch should i buy cause my stock clutch is almost done for now ? any help or advice guys
What are your plans for the car? Big horsepower somewhere down the road?
I have the twin carbon that rated for 750rwhp, I believe.

And by the way, ANY chatter is unacceptable. Just my $.02
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Rick, nice write up... I also run the triple... I have a suggestion for a trans builder if you want... My trans is all billet, shafts and gears, triple cone synchros, bronze followers, etc... With my clutch and trans, shifts and breakage are pretty much gone for me...

What Mile event are you going to run... I run the Texas Mile... If that's where you're headed, look me up... Love to see the GTO...
Running the triple carbon Street Slayer here - love it. Grabby at 1st, after one race night feels fantastic. Even have a 2nd one (for quick swap if the 1st one's being rebuilt) as I hate any downtime and no plans on selling car - it's a keeper. Clutch fluid seems to stay cleaner too.
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Running the triple carbon Street Slayer here - love it. Grabby at 1st, after one race night feels fantastic. Even have a 2nd one (for quick swap if ..... st on rebuilt) as I hate any downtime and no plans on selling car - it's a keeper. Clutch fluid seems to stay cleaner too.
Well i didnt want to call you out LOL! but we sure thank you
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Well i didnt want to call you out LOL! but we sure thank you
LOL, I saw your post on my plane ride and reading through the whole thread.... after responding while I had my wifi connection before takeoff. I find I can load tons of pages and just put the computer into hiberate mode, then have lots of good reading while on a flight. Thanks Thomas!
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so really no high rpm clutch sticking to the floor shifts with the street slayer..
Like to get rid of the clutch return spring
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so really no high rpm clutch sticking to the floor shifts with the street slayer..
Like to get rid of the clutch return spring
No spring needed,i would like to hire whowever can sell a clutch that needs a spring to keep the pedal off the floor
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No spring needed,i would like to hire whowever can sell a clutch that needs a spring to keep the pedal off the floor
For what it's worth, LPE designed the clutch return spring for their Black Drag Camaro while they were already running what is now the Street Slayer Triple Carbon. I'd keep it on.... cheap insurance!
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There are a lot of G8 GXP owners too that like the Monster clutches.
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Thanks Bo, there are many, many people who love Monster Clutches.
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For what it's worth, LPE designed the clutch return spring for their Black Drag Camaro while they were already running what is now the Street Slayer Triple Carbon. I'd keep it on.... cheap insurance!
It surley doesn't hurt if you have the spring already but its not needed with the Street Slayer ..It is cool that the triple went 8.80s in a 4000 lb 5th gen!!!!!
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No complaints with my ACT, but from all the rave reviews on the Street Slayer I just have to try one out next time. Probably the time to do it is when I have RPM go through my tranny.

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