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Old 06-07-2013, 11:09 PM   #1
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CAI: K&N 63 Series vs. Vararam

Since I have now had both of these systems on my Camaro I wanted to give a little comparison for those who are looking for a cold air intake and do not know which type or brand to go with.

Price:I got my K&N not even a week after I drove my Camaro off the lot. I purchased it from AutoAnything for 15% off so I got it for around 220-235 dollars, though they retail for around 280. K&N is one of the cheaper CAI systems out of the more popular one but it still does the job and put a grin on my face after installing it.

The Vararam is a little more pricey on the other hand. Retail the Vararam is around 350 dollars, I got mine for 315 at AutoAgenda, amazing shipping speed it was at my door the day after I ordered it. The Vararam is on the higher side of the price range when it comes to CAIs.

Style:The styles between these two are obviously different. The K&N features the 90 degree turn from the throttle body which the filter is connected to.

The Vararam come straight of the throttle body. It's a very different design that I have not seen from any other brand.

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The K&N advertises to give you around 15 rwhp give or take. This was the first mod done to my vehicle so of course it felt like a great improvement over the stock intake on the Camaros. The intake gives the car a nice loud roar once you get to the mid and upper RPMS and even a little whistle somewhere in between that many of the members think is pretty cool. For those who are wondering if they want to hear their car whistle or not, its not that big of a deal and only happens when at a certain rpm, barely noticeable. This is a great first mod for your Camaro and especially if you are trying to stay under a budget. I would recommend it.

I just installed the Vararam today, I know that you gave the give the ECU some time to learn the new mod to get the full potential of the mod but right out of the box I felt a difference, even with my Ported Throttle Body and Black-Ice Olator installed. The Vararam advertises 35 rwhp and about the same in torque. I think once I have the computer learn this and really step on the pedal it will give me every bit of that but I'm suppose to take it easy on it now so I don't run rich. The Vararam decreases my dead spot to a point where its almost completely gone. I feel like I am gliding down the road when I drive and that I can feel the flow from the CAI. The car smoothly responds as soon as I push the pedal. Honestly I wish I would have done my research and went with Vararam all along, no offense to the K&N (It's great product), but the Vararam of course takes the cake.

Overall if you're on a budget and looking for a cheaper CAI go K&N, they are a big name in the auto business and it's a great product. The install is very simple and took only 15 minutes, it was also my first install.

If you have a little more money and want to the get absolute most out of your Camaro then I would take a look at the Vararam. It takes just as much work as any other CAI to install and I had no problems installing this system even though some have claimed to have installation problems. If you read the instructions and know what you're doing it should be a piece of cake.
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Old 06-07-2013, 11:12 PM   #2
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Vararam estimates 35hp/35tq?
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Old 06-07-2013, 11:13 PM   #3
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Vararam estimates 35hp/35tq?
thats what it said on the instructions that came with it. I knew the numbers were better but thats coming straight from them.
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Old 06-08-2013, 12:09 AM   #4
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I think 35/35 is exaggerating but I really love my Vararam so far it's been my favorite mod. I just got an Black Iceolator and will install it soon, it supposedly helps the Vararam unit fit even better.
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Old 06-08-2013, 08:29 AM   #5
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I would think 15ish is more like it, but I have not dyno'ed mine so cannot say for sure. I just know the throttle response seemed better and the exhaust sounded better.
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Old 06-08-2013, 10:57 AM   #6
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I would think 15ish is more like it, but I have not dyno'ed mine so cannot say for sure. I just know the throttle response seemed better and the exhaust sounded better.
How would you dyno a cold air intake?
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Old 06-08-2013, 12:14 PM   #7
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How would you dyno a cold air intake?
Meant dyno'ed the car before and after to see what the difference would be.
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Old 06-08-2013, 12:18 PM   #8
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I know what you mean but a CAI needs airflow to get the performance out of it which it won't be getting on a dyno since the car isn't moving.
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Old 06-08-2013, 12:25 PM   #9
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Good review
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Old 06-08-2013, 01:16 PM   #10
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Good review
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Old 06-08-2013, 02:42 PM   #11
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I know what you mean but a CAI needs airflow to get the performance out of it which it won't be getting on a dyno since the car isn't moving.
Create the air flow for it. I think that is what was done by someone else using large industrial fans.
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I've had the Vararam and ported throttle body since they came out, best mods I've done.
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Old 06-09-2013, 01:40 AM   #13
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Appreciate the business and support! Glad you are happy with with the Vararam! The OTR "Over The Radiator" intakes are very efficient.
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Old 06-09-2013, 09:22 AM   #14
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Vararam is a beast intake. I trapped 96-97 mph and with the vararam ONLY I started trapping 100-101 consistently, huge improvement. It doesn't go much in 1st gear but when you get mid way through third you really feel that ram effect.
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Old 06-09-2013, 01:08 PM   #15
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It's a great intake. I wish I would have just saved up the money and got it the first time around.
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It's a great intake. I wish I would have just saved up the money and got it the first time around.
Agreed, you can only have 1 intake. May as well get it right the first time. Every intake under $250 is sub-par from our experience. We have a number of customers that have gone through 1 or 2 intakes before they finally pull the trigger on a quality one.
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Old 06-11-2013, 03:49 PM   #17
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i had the K&N intake you had. and i too decided to give vararam a try, and i love it. I like the look of it more when you open the hood and it performs better then the K&N did. But also a big part of it for me was my IAT were really high with the K&N and i would heat soak easily. With the Vararam my IAT's are alot lower. even when its a 100+ degrees like it is right now.
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