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Old 07-29-2013, 09:49 AM   #1
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Dot 4 or Dot 5.1 not sure

The car has been tracked 3 times already. It has 3300 miles on it. Same brake fluid. Need to change before Pocono at end of Aug. Do I just put in a cheep dot4 from pep boys or auto zone or get the more pricey fluid online like Motul RBF600 or ATE blue or Gold. I dont have a problem changing out fluid. If I use the Motul how may bottles shouldbi buy. They are 1/2 liter. Was also looking at Amsoil dot4.
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Old 07-29-2013, 11:40 AM   #2
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Dot 4 is what is recommended in the Owners manual.
Amsoil Dot 4 is what I use.
I've replaced it once every year since 2010, and I do 4-5 track days a year. No issue.
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:40 PM   #3
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DOT 3 is factory, it says it right on the reservoir cap, most DOT 5 stuff is not for use in ABS systems
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:26 PM   #4
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DO NOT use Dot 5.1. I believe that has Silicone in it. Then you'll have to replace every rubber component in your brake system with new parts! Just get some Motul 600RBF. It is full synthetic DOT 4 and has very high boiling points both wet and dry.
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Old 07-30-2013, 06:26 AM   #5
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Thanks for all your help. I think im going with Motul RFB600. Now to find a online site
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Old 07-30-2013, 07:08 AM   #6
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Plenty of sponsors on here sell it. JDP Motorsports sells it. If you are looking to bleed your own brakes you could also look at buying a Motive Power bleeder. They also sell the Motul RBF600 and actually have one of the lowest prices I've seen for it.
You can check it all out at motives web site. Just search for motive power bleeder and you'll find their site.
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Old 07-30-2013, 07:13 AM   #7
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Thanks. Gotta love forums
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Old 07-30-2013, 07:50 AM   #8
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The car has been tracked 3 times already. It has 3300 miles on it. Same brake fluid. Need to change before Pocono at end of Aug. Do I just put in a cheep dot4 from pep boys or auto zone or get the more pricey fluid online like Motul RBF600 or ATE . . . Gold. I dont have a problem changing out fluid. If I use the Motul how may bottles shouldbi buy. They are 1/2 liter. Was also looking at Amsoil dot4.
Either of those. The ATE blue apparently can stain plastics (and is technically illegal for highway use in Florida because of its color).


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DO NOT use Dot 5.1. I believe that has Silicone in it. Then you'll have to replace every rubber component in your brake system with new parts! Just get some Motul 600RBF. It is full synthetic DOT 4 and has very high boiling points both wet and dry.
Just to clarify, DOT 5.1 is not a silicone fluid.

DOT 5 (without the '.1') is, and it's that stuff that you don't want near a track car.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOT_5.1


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Thanks for all your help. I think im going with Motul RFB600. Now to find a online site
Don't know about the Motul, but Sam Strano's business (stranoparts.com) carries the ATE amber and also a Brembo fluid that exceeds DOT 4. He's in western PA and stuff I've ordered from him gets to NJ pretty quickly.


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Old 07-30-2013, 08:09 AM   #9
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ATE Super Blue Dot 4. I've used that for years for track days. I just changed it once a year. If you alternate between the blue and the amber you can tell when you get all of it out when changing.
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Old 07-30-2013, 08:17 AM   #10
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Just to clarify, DOT 5.1 is not a silicone fluid.

DOT 5 (without the '.1') is, and it's that stuff that you don't want near a track car.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOT_5.1


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Thanks for clarifying this norm. I wasn't positive on 5.0 or 5.1 and I guess I should have searched more before replying.
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Old 07-30-2013, 09:12 PM   #11
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Thanks Nick S. I called Motive today. Ordered 3 cans of super blue and a replacement part for the bleeder. Also made a Amsoil order today also. Signed upbas a perffered member to get 25% off. Motor oil, gear oil with limited slip and trans fluid. Im gonna hold off till next year and replace brake lines. I got the modification bug. Thanks for your help
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Old 07-30-2013, 09:38 PM   #12
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Thanks Nick S. I called Motive today. Ordered 3 cans of super blue and a replacement part for the bleeder. Also made a Amsoil order today also. Signed upbas a perffered member to get 25% off. Motor oil, gear oil with limited slip and trans fluid. Im gonna hold off till next year and replace brake lines. I got the modification bug. Thanks for your help
No problem. Hope all goes smoothly for you with the mods!!
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:06 PM   #13
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I have used RBF600 for years, recently switched to Amsoil fluid in my 1le, and it seems to hold pretty good. As good or better then the Motul
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:39 AM   #14
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Thanks. I ordered motor oil trans and diff fluid from amsoil. Everything came in two days ago. I cant believe the big debate over motor oils cannot find anywhere that one is better than another consistently. The only thing I see is mobile 1 is cheaper and eaiser to get.
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:43 AM   #15
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Im paying $30.65 for a one gallon of 5w30 signature not bad. Pepboy have mobile 1 for over $40 a gallon
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