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Old 06-10-2013, 11:46 AM   #26
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Old 06-10-2013, 01:02 PM   #27
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I also see you mph'ed 110.21 earlier that day.
What kind of car seat was that? Maybe Apex should sell them too.
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:19 PM   #28
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I also see you mph'ed 110.21 earlier that day.
What kind of car seat was that? Maybe Apex should sell them too.
It is a Recaro VIVO....We have 4 of them: 3 cars, 2 kids but one has outgrown it
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Our cars come with no lift feature, meaning u shift with foot all the way down on throttle...... Sounds like u need to go back.
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No, it's a good way to kill the synchro's in your transmission.
Does not have a no lift shift.....and you dont want to be trying WOT
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:44 PM   #30
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wish we had air like yours.....these are what I did the other weekend with DRs, Cold Air Intake, and Hi Flow CATS

on a side not they are making a fast time list for 1LE's
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Doesn't an 110. MPH equate to a mid 12. pass?
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wish we had air like yours.....these are what I did the other weekend with DRs, Cold Air Intake, and Hi Flow CATS

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Doesn't an 110. MPH equate to a mid 12. pass?
Not if the tires spin off the line!
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Not if the tires spin off the line!

was having more issues with bogging off the line, kept bringing up my launch RPMs that was at about 4000 and was the last run of the night have to wait another week to see if I can drop that 60ft
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Though it may not be recommended every time, I can not believe that shifting without lifting is going to hurt anything on these cars, as long as it is not done continually. If it does, this will be the first GM manual tranny car that I have owned or driven that was damaged by doing this on occasion.
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Not if the tires spin off the line!

Yeah ...a 110 trap usually means a 12.4-12.5 1/4. That's quite impressive if the 1LE can do that.
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was having more issues with bogging off the line, kept bringing up my launch RPMs that was at about 4000 and was the last run of the night have to wait another week to see if I can drop that 60ft
I just saw you were on drag radials....because I was launching much lower to prevent wheel spin.

Good luck and let us know how it goes..
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Yeah ...a 110 trap usually means a 12.4-12.5 1/4. That's quite impressive if the 1LE can do that.
Tire spin usually leads to a higher trap speed and an obviously lower ET. With that being said you can rarely use a trap speed to calculate ET due to how each is measured at the track. On that note how does Motor Trend run all kinds of 13's in SS's but 12.7 in a 1LE? Or should I say does all the 1LE stuff help or hinder like a few people think it does?
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Old 06-10-2013, 09:48 PM   #41
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I know the ZL1 has it for sure, even the old Cobalt SS had it and the Solstice GXP etc. Many GM cars have this feature because it is no that hard to calibrate and you will not kill synchros is my understanding since it cuts spark but allows the RPM to stay higher for better power ONCE YOUR SHIFTING IS COMPLETE, meaning no synchro work.

I personally haven't tried it on mine but I did do launch control in it once.
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:30 PM   #42
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I have checked a few places... pretty sure we do not have the no lift shift programing on the 1LE equipped SS.
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I know the ZL1 has it for sure, even the old Cobalt SS had it and the Solstice GXP etc. Many GM cars have this feature because it is no that hard to calibrate and you will not kill synchros is my understanding since it cuts spark but allows the RPM to stay higher for better power ONCE YOUR SHIFTING IS COMPLETE, meaning no synchro work.

I personally haven't tried it on mine but I did do launch control in it once.
I promise you I have driven cars with a no lift shift, easily done on the 1LE shifting at regular RPMs no issue but WOT like at the track, not a chance. Plus one of the fun parts of taking a manual to the track is perfecting that shift and being consistent.
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I promise you I have driven cars with a no lift shift, easily done on the 1LE shifting at regular RPMs no issue but WOT like at the track, not a chance. Plus one of the fun parts of taking a manual to the track is perfecting that shift and being consistent.
Again, not promoting it as an everyday driving technique, but unless C5 Corvettes and Gen 4 Camaros and Firebirds had this "no lift feature", which I do not believe they did, occasional use of no lift will not hurt. The WS6 we just sold had about 180k miles on here, and no tranny issues....for what it is worth.
I do agree with your comments about making the perfect, consistent shift being rewarding, and if the car is going to be drag raced a bunch, I am sure I would not want to "no lift" all the time. I was more thinking a max bonsai type run to see what you could get out of the car. If you are using drag radials, and bogging the car a bit, a higher RPM launch would seem to help, but I am sure you knew that. My fear is the car hooking and going, and something breaking at that point. Best of luck, and I am looking forward to seeing how you do.
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Old 06-11-2013, 08:40 AM   #45
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What I'm trying to say is that I've tried...off track...just to see how it did and it rejected every time under wide open throttle. Someone trying at the track would not be a good time
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Old 06-13-2013, 07:51 PM   #46
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If you want to add your times to the 1/4 mile fast list it's up now for 1 LEs
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i guess i'm just ignorant of the 1/4, but what is "no lift shifting?" and the programming being mentioned?
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Leaving you foot on the gas while shifting. Essentially saving you a little bit of time on the 1/4mile
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Old 06-13-2013, 10:59 PM   #49
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Old 06-14-2013, 02:43 PM   #50
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i guess i'm just ignorant of the 1/4, but what is "no lift shifting?" and the programming being mentioned?
The ECM basically knows when you shift and reduces timing for a split second allowing you to remain WOT.
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