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Old 02-28-2008, 07:10 AM   #26
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i hope you guys all caught... the ls3 REPLACES the ls2... ls2 is gone
I think we discussed that here months and months ago.
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:20 AM   #27
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And the LS7 will be going end-of-life sooner than the Camaro can get it's speed up... gotta love speculation
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:15 AM   #28
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Glad I'm not the only one who saw that!

Exactly. I remember a couple things (that have already been pointed out) where their statements were wrong or old news.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:28 AM   #29
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dispite a few inaccuracies it was, for the most part a pretty good read. compairing the challenger to the G8 isnt far off the mark. I cant wait to read the results of the actual production camaro vs mustang vs challenger. you know when they actually put the production camaro out there its gonna be everywhere.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:44 AM   #30
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With all the hype it seems like GM has put out, I think you're right. That's fine by me. I'd love to see that car everywhere.
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:30 AM   #31
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dispite a few inaccuracies it was, for the most part a pretty good read. compairing the challenger to the G8 isnt far off the mark. I cant wait to read the results of the actual production camaro vs mustang vs challenger. you know when they actually put the production camaro out there its gonna be everywhere.
what he said!!
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:39 AM   #32
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nice... inaccurate, but nice.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:36 AM   #33
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A little dose of reality guys.

I have high hopes for the Camaro, and it will be fast, and it will be awesome, but......


A CHARGER SRT8 can and will pull 13.0-13.3 1/4 mile times with traps between 106mph- 108mph regularly. 0-60 times under 5 seconds are also common.

Saying a Charger SRT8 will only do 13.6 in the 1/4, or that 13.6 is the average for a Charger SRT8 is somking crack.


That said, the Camaro will still be faster.
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Old 02-28-2008, 12:31 PM   #34
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I think the Camaro will have closer to a 3700lb curb wieght, though...3800 sound more like they're setting themselves up to be surprised
Not that I don't share your optimism.. but has there been anything that pointed to the car being significantly lighter than its Zeta brethren?

I've followed the site but mainly for photos to this point. A reduced curb weight would certainly be welcomed as gas cracks $4 this year. Simply wondering if there have been hints I've not picked up on. Here's hoping GM was able to dump some of that Zeta lead during the Camaro's slumber that Holden hasn't.
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Not that I don't share your optimism.. but has there been anything that pointed to the car being significantly lighter than its Zeta brethren?

I've followed the site but mainly for photos to this point. A reduced curb weight would certainly be welcomed as gas cracks $4 this year. Simply wondering if there have been hints I've not picked up on. Here's hoping GM was able to dump some of that Zeta lead during the Camaro's slumber that Holden hasn't.
Fbodfather said at one point that they've call Jenny Craig to help with the weight thing. I can't be bothered to find the post. Hey, that would make a good sig quote . . .
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Old 02-28-2008, 01:01 PM   #36
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Fbodfather said at one point that they've call Jenny Craig to help with the weight thing. I can't be bothered to find the post. Hey, that would make a good sig quote . . .
There's mention of "Jenny Craig" in this thread about the Camaro's weight

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ht=jenny+craig
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I think the Camaro could pull off a 3700lb weight, maybe even less.

Take a look at some of the pictures of the concept and production models of the Camaro compared to nearby cars. The Camaro is actually fairly small.

Somewhere there are pictures of the 5th gen concept next to the 4th gen, and they very similar in size. The 4th gen was what? 3400ish lbs?

I could be wrong, but I don't think IRS and maybe a few other things are going to add 300-400 more lbs.
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Old 02-28-2008, 01:41 PM   #38
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I like it all! Finaly having something that might possibly give us a little insight into the whole what might it have is great. being that the Charger and Challanger are so much alike i think that the camaro being a lighter car in general will deffinatly have the upper hand! I need this to keep me going! great find man! keep searching!
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There's mention of "Jenny Craig" in this thread about the Camaro's weight

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ht=jenny+craig
Hmm, I guess he didn't say that then. People keep saying its been said, but I can't find the origin of the quote. Maybe someone read it on another forum
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Old 02-28-2008, 02:05 PM   #40
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Hmm, I guess he didn't say that then. People keep saying its been said, but I can't find the origin of the quote. Maybe someone read it on another forum
The source is in that thread I linked... here's an even more specific link (to within that thread) -- http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...5797#post15797

Doug Houlihan (Chief Engineer) mentioned Jenny Craig.
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The source is in that thread I linked... here's an even more specific link (to within that thread) -- http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...5797#post15797

Doug Houlihan (Chief Engineer) mentioned Jenny Craig.
It says there that it was said . . . which is what I thought I was saying, but we don't have anyone actually saying it. That being said . . . I've just confused myself. But if that quote is as good as we're going to get, its good enough for me
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Old 02-28-2008, 02:51 PM   #42
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They forgot to mention it's a much better looking car! I'll give the Challenger this; it has several small details that give the car a very classy look (I hope GM doesn't drop the ball there), but overall it just doesn't look like it's ready for a fight like the 5th gen is!


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Old 02-28-2008, 03:05 PM   #43
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The numbers for the Challenger may be quite different once they mate a 6 speed manual to that 6.1 Hemi. I don't think Chrysler has ever hooked up a 6 speed to that 6.1 liter Hemi in any production car before. It should be very interesting to see what the 0-60 and quarter mile numbers look like with an M6 tranny. For an automatic tranny car with a 4160 lbs curb weight, its damn quick.
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Old 02-28-2008, 03:20 PM   #44
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Old 02-28-2008, 03:29 PM   #45
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My, my....how desperate are some people to get this car that they feel the need to do that much speculation. That being said, it is probably close to how things will actually shake out.

I love hardcore enthusiats....it is pure entertainment to watch people squirm, sweat, scream, and cry over every little detail and thought...
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:14 PM   #46
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that would be AWESOME!!
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The Challenger is too heavy, it should have shared a platform with another car...I do love the bak lights and rear exhaust, it looks great in the new Motor Trend, its just too heavy, plus it will have worse fuel economy than the Camaro. I'd buy the Challenger over a Mustang though, no doubt. I guess people that wanted a 2 door Charger will be happy with the Challenger.
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seriously this article kind of suck.............it read very stupid things ........ im dissapointed coming from edmunds
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:10 AM   #49
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very interesting article.

Won't see an LS7.


Everybody knows how carefully FBodFather picks his words... did you notice he did not dispute the LS9... only the LS7...

Okay just wishful thinking but curious none the less.

First post, nice site, looking forward to having the 2010 next to my 1969. Oh by the way... those are not the real headlights.
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^ I was thinking how he didnt dispute the LS3 because they mainly talked about.
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