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Old 06-11-2013, 02:07 PM   #1
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ELM327 Bluetooth OBDII Scanner with Torque app, then what?

Now that I have all the diagnostic information, what do I do with it?
1) Engine RPM
2) Calculated Load Value
3) Coolant Temperature
4) Fuel System Status
5) Vehicle Speed
6) Short Term Fuel Trim
7) Long Term Fuel Trim
8) Intake Manifold Pressure
9) Timing Advance
10) Intake Air Temperature
11) Air Flow Rate
12) Absolute Throttle Position
13) Oxygen sensor voltages/associated short term fuel trims
14) Fuel System status
15) Fuel Pressure

Is there a table I can use somewhere to compare them with?
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Old 06-14-2013, 02:57 PM   #2
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Look at it? What are you trying to accomplish?

I use mine to log spirited driving and draw the parameters on a map. I also use it to read/clear codes.
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Old 06-14-2013, 07:22 PM   #3
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I would like to compare my results with others a guess...
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Old 06-14-2013, 07:27 PM   #4
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Do you think you have a problem? You should be able to find typical values for a lot of those parameters by searching the forum. I wouldn't noid out on it though if you don't think you have a problem. Always leads to enjoying your car less due to "perceived problems" .

Use it for fun until you have an issue, then it makes a nice diagnostic tool as well.
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Old 06-14-2013, 08:35 PM   #5
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[/QUOTE]Use it for fun until you have an issue, then it makes a nice diagnostic tool as well.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I guess thats whats it for...thanks
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Old 06-14-2013, 08:50 PM   #6
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No problem bud.
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Old 06-14-2013, 10:00 PM   #7
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Hey I just bought 1 of those, Newegg had it on sale for $9.00. Could not pass up it up.
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Old 07-02-2013, 10:28 PM   #8
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I also just bought the ELM 327 Bluetooth OBDII and downloaded the app. I know it should be pretty easy to understand but can you make changes. I know some of you have a better grasp of it since it been around a while. Beside checking codes what else can it be used for? Maybe there needs to be a dedicated thread so ppl can exchange info and ask questions.

I really want to use it to log runs but have several questions.
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Old 07-02-2013, 10:39 PM   #9
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Start a thread. I'll answer everything i know the answer to!
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Old 07-02-2013, 10:44 PM   #10
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Actually this one isn't titled too bad. What do you want to know?
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Old 07-02-2013, 10:46 PM   #11
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Since I don't have the OBDII in my hands yet(will be delivered tmo).

But how do you retrieve results from data logging? Do you set your own parameters?

Sorry hemp but I got 12 hr at work to waste.lol.

I really just want to hit the ground running when I get this device.
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Old 07-02-2013, 10:56 PM   #12
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Yep. You can choose any parameter that is recognized, which honestly, is pretty much everything. The logs are saved as an excel spreadsheet. I'm not sure if there is a graphical viewer or not? I'll see what I can find.

The app gauges work the same way. You choose the type and size of gauge you want, then you can assign any parameter to any gauge and plant it on a desktop. Placing things works a lot like android works. Home screens and all.
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Old 07-02-2013, 11:01 PM   #13
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Thanks man. I guess I will play around with it before work tomorrow. Surely I will have a few more questions.

Will these logs be something my tuner can look at and make changes. The same he would run with HPTuners. Basically does this device offer good accurate info for him to make adjustments if needed?
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Just to test that I tried to open the .csv file in LiveLink (SCT logging software) and it wouldn't open it. CSV is just a generic "comma separated values" file. Your tuner could use the tables to make changes, but he'll have to look at them as a spreadsheet. That's not something tuners are unfamiliar with. It's better than having no data at all!
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Now that I open the SCT log in Excel.. I bet if you matched the column names to the correct parameter names in whatever tuning software you were using, they would open.

For example: O2 Sensor Voltage Bank 1 -> Bank 1 O2 Sens Volts

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It doesn't work. Nevermind.
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Kinda off topic

I was looking at my shift points the other day and they are set around 6200-6400 but my tq starts falling off around 5500. Any reason why they would be set this high if the tq falls of that early.
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Kinda off topic

I was looking at my shift points the other day and they are set around 6200-6400 but my tq starts falling off around 5500. Any reason why they would be set this high if the tq falls of that early.
Because your horsepower keeps going. 5500+ is baby-makin music!
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Old 07-02-2013, 11:24 PM   #18
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Also it might be they are revving the previous gear to make sure they land in the powerband on the next. I have driven nothing but manuals for all my life. My shift points are wherever i want them .
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Think of it this way. Torque is instantaneous power. Horsepower is torque over time. It might drop in torque, but there are more instances at higher rpm, and that adds up over time.
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Cool. Thanks. I guess I need to do that heads/cam project to bump up the hp/tq/compression.
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There is also a video plugin that i have been meaning to try. It's supposed to let you shoot video with your phone and overlay gauges.
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Quick video to test the track recorder plugin. There are some hoops to jump through to get the video off of your phone with the gauges overlaid. It wasn't too bad. Follow the directions INCLUDING the reboot.

After that enable wifi sync in Torque Pro and your phone doesn't even have to be connected to the computer to encode your videos.

http://torque-bhp.com/wiki/Exporting_Video

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Cool video. Gonna have to check out that add on. Do you leave your Bluetooth obd in all the time or do you pull it out afterwards.
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I always pull it back out.
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I ran my first log and now I can't find it.
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