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Old 06-09-2013, 10:16 AM   #1
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Supercharger???

Wow!! Way too many to chose from. Who has the most efficient? Who make the most power @ the same boost levels? I do like the looks of the Whipple and have always liked the centrifugal chargers. I ran a D1 back in the late 90's and it made some killer power. Thanks for any info helping me decided.
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Old 06-09-2013, 10:19 AM   #2
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Don't know much about the others but I recently had mine installed. Best thing I ever did. I think there are pro's and con's to each type of supercharger. I personally like how the Magnuson is similar to how the stock ZL1 is set up.
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If you want efficiency and most power then a D1SC is the ticket.
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Old 06-09-2013, 11:12 AM   #4
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If you want efficiency and most power then a D1SC is the ticket.
Unless you want to go turbo, then it kills all the blowers for less money.
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If you want a top mount, the Whipple 2.9L would be the most efficient compared to TVS 2300 variants.
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Unless you want to go turbo, then it kills all the blowers for less money.
True but he asked about blowers.
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Old 06-09-2013, 12:32 PM   #7
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Wow!! Way too many to chose from. Who has the most efficient? Who make the most power @ the same boost levels? I do like the looks of the Whipple and have always liked the centrifugal chargers. I ran a D1 back in the late 90's and it made some killer power. Thanks for any info helping me decided.

Efficiency would require something not driven by a belt. But if you have too, then the correct answer is ECS.
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Old 06-09-2013, 02:24 PM   #8
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Only 2 out of the top 30 on the power adders fast list are using turbos. What does that tell you? Turbos make great power but they are peaky. Look at their dyno sheets. The superchargers will have a nice flat torque curve, not a spiked mountain top. Choose your forced induction based on how the car will be used. Street or track? Cruise or show?
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Old 06-09-2013, 02:32 PM   #9
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Efficiency would require something not driven by a belt. But if you have too, then the correct answer is ECS.
The ECS kit makes great power....made 625hp/609tq on my LS3 / stock besides ARH headers/cats, NO meth...and that's through a 9" rear w/ 4.11's (#'s would be higher w/ the stock rear).
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Old 06-09-2013, 04:36 PM   #10
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I have seen the ECS kit and do like that setup. They are only 30 mins. from me. The car is just for the street, have 2 drag cars already. Turbo's make great power, but not to hip on the kits that are available for the Camaro. I would think there would be a good amount of lag in the lower RPM range.
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Old 06-09-2013, 04:38 PM   #11
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It all depends on what you are going to do with the car and how much power you plan on making. I feel the roots style is better if you want to stay under 700rwhp. Over that a procharger hands down. We have built a ton of 2010+ camaros and the roots style blowers feel WAY faster than the procharged set ups. Feel free to stop by the shop and i will show you around. We have 5-6 in there now and a few getting blowers.
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Old 06-09-2013, 04:44 PM   #12
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If you want efficiency and most power then a D1SC is the ticket.
I like the D1SC and was thinking of going with that kit, but when I called Procharger they told me there was no kit for a 2013 model as of yet.
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Old 06-09-2013, 05:03 PM   #13
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Only 2 out of the top 30 on the power adders fast list are using turbos. What does that tell you? Turbos make great power but they are peaky. Look at their dyno sheets. The superchargers will have a nice flat torque curve, not a spiked mountain top. Choose your forced induction based on how the car will be used. Street or track? Cruise or show?
Is that because they have blowers or because they have the money to justify paying more for the same results?
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Old 06-09-2013, 05:17 PM   #14
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It all depends on what you are going to do with the car and how much power you plan on making. I feel the roots style is better if you want to stay under 700rwhp. Over that a procharger hands down. We have built a ton of 2010+ camaros and the roots style blowers feel WAY faster than the procharged set ups. Feel free to stop by the shop and i will show you around. We have 5-6 in there now and a few getting blowers.
I may take you up on that!! Your about 2 hr ride from me.
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Old 06-09-2013, 05:19 PM   #15
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No. I just think with these heavy cars they need torque as soon and as long as possible. The turbos just don't provide that. And for results, I think the list speaks for itself.
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For good power and drivability I love my SLP TVS2300. With out doing headers, Cai or cutom tune i just dropped the blower on and made 502rwhp. I do plan on adding everything else later. But my goals are 650ish RWHP and im done. I dont race the car, just cruise around and go to shows.

If your looking for more that, step up to the whipple or definately the ECS Kit or procharger. Those all can make crazy power.
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Old 06-09-2013, 05:46 PM   #17
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I like the D1SC and was thinking of going with that kit, but when I called Procharger they told me there was no kit for a 2013 model as of yet.
Thats what vortech told me about my 2011 they said it only works on 2010 models but it bolted right up with no issues the tune was the only thing that I had to do.
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No. I just think with these heavy cars they need torque as soon and as long as possible. The turbos just don't provide that. And for results, I think the list speaks for itself.
I guess you are right. Give me a few more months and I will add a third turbo to the list.
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One thing is for sure, that TVS looks really nice in the engine bay.
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It all depends on what you are going to do with the car and how much power you plan on making. I feel the roots style is better if you want to stay under 700rwhp. Over that a procharger hands down. We have built a ton of 2010+ camaros and the roots style blowers feel WAY faster than the procharged set ups. Feel free to stop by the shop and i will show you around. We have 5-6 in there now and a few getting blowers.
Going to call you this week about being a dealer since you are badass.

Turbos aren't peaks if sized right. Agp shop car makes 600+rwtq from 2500-redline.
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No. I just think with these heavy cars they need torque as soon and as long as possible. The turbos just don't provide that. And for results, I think the list speaks for itself.
Ummmm, nope. Turbos when done right, are the tq kings actually. Done right means no rear mounts or U-turn T'netics type.
Drag racing is a very poor way to compare power output because it's all about car setup. All the fast guys are making more than enough power. OP asked about efficiency and without a doubt turbos own efficiency.
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Going to call you this week about being a dealer since you are badass.

Turbos aren't peaks if sized right. Agp shop car makes 600+rwtq from 2500-redline.
And shown a LOT of blown, much more modified cars it's tail lights. And these are not little turbos. They are 1100hp worth of turbo.

With a 3200rpm stall the car is in power any time you want.
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Old 06-09-2013, 07:30 PM   #23
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I guess you are right. Give me a few more months and I will add a third turbo to the list.
It would be nice to see more turbo cars run the numbers. There are some crazy fast turbo cars that lurk around PBIR and I enjoy watching them run. They sound awesome too.
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I just came across the AGP turbo kit. Looks nice, anyone using this?
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Old 06-10-2013, 07:39 AM   #25
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Yep turbos are the most efficient by far. As superchargers go the Vortech V3 is the most efficient unit out at the moment just do not expect to go much over 650 rwhp with it on our big 6.2.

If you like to have a car that drives like stock but comes alive in a big way the harder you push it get a Centrifugal.
If you like to have a car to have instant power and hold that same power to red line get a PD I personally like the Whipple.

Most people like that instant hit the PD give. But as far as Street use your going to be traction Limited no matter which way you go and the Centrifugal's are much easier to launch on a Non-prepared Surface.
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