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Old 06-14-2013, 08:27 AM   #1
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Rattle Noise update

So I have had a rattle / tick noise from the rear. I posted an update in my other thread, but really want some feedback about the root cause... First dealer said they couldnt hear it, however it was very noticiable. Took it to a reputable dealer and this was the outcome...

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Took it to Rodgers and they did great work. Its about 80% gone, but I'm not certain its even possible for them to fix it completely.

What they found was a missing pinch weld in the sheet metal in the passenger rear which was causing sheet metal to rub. How significant is this to the car's structure? The dealer used some sort of seam sealer to try and fix... not sure exactly. But will this cause more problems in the future? Why should I have to settle for a car that is missing something significant like this? Let me know what you think... is a missing pinch weld a minor issue and common? I want a different car, honestly because I'm concerned its going to just be a rattle trap for the life of it.... Maybe someone can educate me on true significance of this issue.

Rodgers is indeed an outstanding dealership and worth the ride. I met the tech who was riding around in the trunk to try and find the source of the rattle. He even had carpet burns on his elbows. I think they did what they could, but is it enough?
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Old 06-14-2013, 11:31 AM   #2
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Mine was a random tapping sound from the rear, easily heard while idling.
It was most noticeable if you were next to a wall.
It sounded like roofers nailing shingles in the distance.
However, I couldn't hear it while driving.

Eventually, the sound went away.
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Old 06-14-2013, 11:33 AM   #3
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Eventually, the sound went away.
...when I sold the car.
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Old 06-14-2013, 12:11 PM   #4
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So I have had a rattle / tick noise from the rear. I posted an update in my other thread, but really want some feedback about the root cause... First dealer said they couldnt hear it, however it was very noticiable. Took it to a reputable dealer and this was the outcome...

Update:

Took it to Rodgers and they did great work. Its about 80% gone, but I'm not certain its even possible for them to fix it completely.

What they found was a missing pinch weld in the sheet metal in the passenger rear which was causing sheet metal to rub. How significant is this to the car's structure? The dealer used some sort of seam sealer to try and fix... not sure exactly. But will this cause more problems in the future? Why should I have to settle for a car that is missing something significant like this? Let me know what you think... is a missing pinch weld a minor issue and common? I want a different car, honestly because I'm concerned its going to just be a rattle trap for the life of it.... Maybe someone can educate me on true significance of this issue.

Rodgers is indeed an outstanding dealership and worth the ride. I met the tech who was riding around in the trunk to try and find the source of the rattle. He even had carpet burns on his elbows. I think they did what they could, but is it enough?
I doubt if a single missing pinch weld would result in any structural strength problem at all.

If it's on an inside seam somewhere, there's probably not much that they can do as far as re-welding it, so they're doing the best they can to minimize/eliminate the annoying sound.

Seam sealer should last the life of the car.

You should be just fine.
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Old 06-14-2013, 09:21 PM   #5
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You don't live far from the dealer, do you go there? Or work there even?

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Old 06-14-2013, 09:55 PM   #6
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I've got the same rattle, same spot, only does it with top up. I've only had the car two weeks. I will bring this up when I go to the dealer. I contemplated having the wife drive it around the neighborhood with me in the trunk trying to isolate the rattle.
I HATE rattles!!!
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Old 06-14-2013, 10:15 PM   #7
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I've got the same rattle, same spot, only does it with top up. I've only had the car two weeks. I will bring this up when I go to the dealer. I contemplated having the wife drive it around the neighborhood with me in the trunk trying to isolate the rattle.
I HATE rattles!!!
If it does it while idling, like mine did, don't do a Houdini.
Just take it in and let the Service tech hear it.

If you do get in the trunk, and she doesn't let you out, look for this and pull it...
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Old 06-14-2013, 10:22 PM   #8
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Micheal,

I'm aware of the escape handle, that's the only reason I was willing to get in to let my wife drive me around. I was NOT going to let her be my only escape route. I'm worth more dead than alive, Hahahaha.

It doesn't do it while idling at a stop. I have to be moving but its the tiniest divet in the road that I hit that will cause it.
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It doesn't do it in PARK? Check again.
OK. Then take the tech out with you.
Don't let them test drive it alone and come back saying they didn't hear anything.
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Old 06-14-2013, 10:48 PM   #10
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No, definitely have to be moving and hit an un-level spot. If I have the stereo up at all it can't be heard...... That is until I heard it the first time. Now I can have the stereo selected to volume level 'Ear Bleed' and I can still detect it. Hahaha
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Old 06-14-2013, 10:52 PM   #11
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Yep. like a tiny ding on the door. I can see it even when the car is dirty.
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Exactly!
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Old 06-15-2013, 10:20 AM   #13
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I've got the same rattle, same spot, only does it with top up. I've only had the car two weeks. I will bring this up when I go to the dealer. I contemplated having the wife drive it around the neighborhood with me in the trunk trying to isolate the rattle.
I HATE rattles!!!
Mine did it top up or down, but had to be in the backseat to hear it with top down.

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Old 06-15-2013, 10:21 AM   #14
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No, definitely have to be moving and hit an un-level spot. If I have the stereo up at all it can't be heard...... That is until I heard it the first time. Now I can have the stereo selected to volume level 'Ear Bleed' and I can still detect it. Hahaha
Yep! Once you tune into it, it will drive you mad.

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Old 06-15-2013, 05:40 PM   #15
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My wife claims she can't hear it, I think she's in denial, Hahahaha
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Old 06-15-2013, 05:42 PM   #16
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Yep! Once you tune into it, it will drive you mad.

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Truer words never spoken!..... Or typed!
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Old 06-15-2013, 08:12 PM   #17
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My wife claims she can't hear it, I think she's in denial, Hahahaha
Denial? I thought she was in Alabama.
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She's en-route now, should arrive anytime. It was a few days ago that I initially heard the rattle. Between then and now she says she hasn't heard a thing. We haven't been in the car together since I first heard it so I could point it out to her. Unless of course the rattle DID magically disappear..... Doubtful....
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Had a rattle too....turned out to be the heat shield above the exhaust pipes around the middle-ish area. Just needed a little adjusting and no more rattle. BTW, the rattle was a little noticeable at idle, but best heard at exactly 8 miles an hour for some weird reason!!
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If you're asking me, yes I live close to Rodgers and no I do not work there.
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Had a rattle too....turned out to be the heat shield above the exhaust pipes around the middle-ish area. Just needed a little adjusting and no more rattle. BTW, the rattle was a little noticeable at idle, but best heard at exactly 8 miles an hour for some weird reason!!
I had that one too, was fixed at 300 miles. I have had like 15 new vehicles, this is the first one I ever had so many problems so early. My blower has been replaced, window seal between front and rear windows, exhaust manifold or heat shield issue, this rattle, and there is another big item that I'm forgetting...

Anyway, with only 4k miles I'll be glad if I can get a few trouble free miles out of it now.

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Old 06-16-2013, 09:23 AM   #22
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If you're asking me, yes I live close to Rodgers and no I do not work there.
Ahh OK. Was curious because of your location.

Thanks for letting me know that a missing pinch weld isn't a big deal structurally, I don't know enough about cars to understand the significance of the issue. Makes me feel a bit better.

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Old 06-16-2013, 03:56 PM   #23
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That sucks BlueRay!
This is the first New car we've ever bought and I'm in my 40's. The only reason I pulled the trigger was the 0% interest we got. Keeping my fingers crossed all is well with ours. My wife drives it mostly and is in complete bliss. However she doesn't have a trained mechanically sensitive ear to pick up on stuff lurking just below the surface.
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:14 PM   #24
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Well, noise returned. Back to dealer.

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My rattle noise went away. It did it the one day and hasn't done it since - Top up or down. Keeping fingers crossed.....
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