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Old 06-14-2013, 08:19 PM   #1
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Z/28 or a ZL1?

OK my 2012 SS is paid off and trying to decide between a ZL1 or the Z/28

Have it cleared with the wife
which would you get? and why?

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Old 06-14-2013, 08:21 PM   #2
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I'd go with the z28 because I have a zl1
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You will get a ZL1 before a Z28!!
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Old 06-14-2013, 08:26 PM   #4
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you mean delivery wise?
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OK my 2012 SS is paid off and trying to decide between a ZL1 or the Z/28

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If you want a car that provides every comfort and performance feature that a Camaro can offer...go for the ZL1. Hands down winner, all tiime.
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I'd go with the z28 because I have a zl1
...and so it goes for I.....from a pureists standpoint on performance over comfort.
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You will get a ZL1 before a Z28!!
...this is true. The Z28 will be pricey, and low numbered. One has better get a hook somehow, or gain an inway with a dealer who will get an allocation and hope he is smiled upon by the Chevy deities to receive delivery. All bets are off
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Z/28 no question.
And why, when the ZL1 is the Crown Royal all encompassing Camaro of all time?
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And why, when the ZL1 is the Crown Royal all encompassing Camaro of all time?
Because the ZL1 wasn't good enough to be the Z/28. Check out a few of the parts on your car and you will see Z/28 stamped on them but GM made the right choice.
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OK my 2012 SS is paid off and trying to decide between a ZL1 or the Z/28

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ZL1
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The brilliant fitment of Pedders 305/30/19s on the Z/28 is the PERFECT choice for the 5th Gen.

CARBON CERAMIC BRAKES!

Dry sump system.

I'll take normally aspirated power over supercharged all day every day.

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Old 06-15-2013, 09:40 AM   #10
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Because the ZL1 wasn't good enough to be the Z/28. Check out a few of the parts on your car and you will see Z/28 stamped on them but GM made the right choice.
LOL!!!!! Nice try, Two different purposes....here we go again. .

Simply put...if you are going to spend 50%+ of your time on the track...buy the Z/28. If not, buy the ZL1. You can make the ZL1 as fast as the Z/28 on the road course if you want to strip and mod it but you will not likely get the Z/28 to ride as comfortably as the ZL1 with the Magnetic Ride. I am betting the ZL1 will be faster on the strip than the Z/28 (stock -vs- stock) but I could be wrong.

If you live where it gets hot in the summer, remember that air conditioning is an option (which add about 100+ to the Z/28). Want to listen to a radio with more than one speaker? Again, add a about 25lbs worth of speakers. See where I am going with this? Then add about $10K+ to the price of the ZL1 for the Z/28.

In my mind, unless you are a track guy, and by that I mean you are buying the car for the track, the Z/28 a little too specialized for my taste. But I get why they built it and I love the fact they did.
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I was really hoping GM was gonna put the supercharger on the 427 in the ZL1. Then again, maybe in 2015 or something.
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Old 06-15-2013, 11:21 AM   #12
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I was really hoping GM was gonna put the supercharger on the 427 in the ZL1. Then again, maybe in 2015 or something.

I think I read somewhere the ls7's dont hold up well to boost like the ls3's do, I could be wrong though
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Old 06-15-2013, 11:50 AM   #13
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LOL!!!!! Nice try, Two different purposes....here we go again. .

Simply put...if you are going to spend 50%+ of your time on the track...buy the Z/28. If not, buy the ZL1. You can make the ZL1 as fast as the Z/28 on the road course if you want to strip and mod it but you will not likely get the Z/28 to ride as comfortably as the ZL1 with the Magnetic Ride. I am betting the ZL1 will be faster on the strip than the Z/28 (stock -vs- stock) but I could be wrong.

If you live where it gets hot in the summer, remember that air conditioning is an option (which add about 100+ to the Z/28). Want to listen to a radio with more than one speaker? Again, add a about 25lbs worth of speakers. See where I am going with this? Then add about $10K+ to the price of the ZL1 for the Z/28.

In my mind, unless you are a track guy, and by that I mean you are buying the car for the track, the Z/28 a little too specialized for my taste. But I get why they built it and I love the fact they did.
100+ lbs?, for AC? and 25 lbs for speakers?
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It really should be a simple choice when you think about it. Even though they are both Camaros it is apples and oranges.
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Old 06-15-2013, 02:53 PM   #15
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100+ lbs?, for AC? and 25 lbs for speakers?
Compressor, Condenser, piping, venting, brackets, and controls. Added an after market system to my 69 and it was 83lbs.

Deck, Amp, 8 speakers with good performance (large magnets) is 27lbs. I just removed that from my daughters Chevy Cruz before upgrading to aftermarket.

Just sayin...
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Compressor, Condenser, piping, venting, brackets, and controls. Added an after market system to my 69 and it was 83lbs.

Deck, Amp, 8 speakers with good performance (large magnets) is 27lbs. I just removed that from my daughters Chevy Cruz before upgrading to aftermarket.

Just sayin...
Yea and the Zl1 will still run in the 11 sec range. Dollar for dollar on any high horse stock race car from the factory what would you pick? pretty obvious huh! The Zl1 has it and its still priced lower than the completion its blowing away.
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My original intention is to have a car that I can go on spirited runs on the back roads. The Z/28 would be perfect for that! I am especially impressed with the LS7 engine. I really wish they would have this as an option in a 1LE. So if it was this or that (one or the other) I would take the Z/28. One of the main reasons I want a Camaro is to haul the whole family (3). With it's lack of creature comforts, minimal cushioned back seat, the price, and presumed lack of availability(all of the collectors will be knocking each other over for one). I don't think a Z/28 is feasible for me.

The ZL1 is more affordable, apparently more accessible, and more comfortable. The only problem I have with it is it's weight and gas mileage, then I wonder about the heat soak which is common with roots type S/C.

So if I had my way, I would get a Z/28 with A/C, and an aftermarket stereo, with a comfortable back seat. But then it would weight close to a Zl1! I remember when the Mustang GT500 came out. The local ford dealer would even let the public touch it, and the price was nearly twice MSRP. I have a feeling the Z/28 will see the same thing when the first ones hit the showrooms.
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Compressor, Condenser, piping, venting, brackets, and controls. Added an after market system to my 69 and it was 83lbs.

Deck, Amp, 8 speakers with good performance (large magnets) is 27lbs. I just removed that from my daughters Chevy Cruz before upgrading to aftermarket.

Just sayin...
Reuss was interviewed and said that not getting AC would save around 20 lbs. Any sane person buying a Z/28 would never add 27 lbs in speakers...wouldn't that make it a ricer anyway?
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Yea and the Zl1 will still run in the 11 sec range. Dollar for dollar on any high horse stock race car from the factory what would you pick? pretty obvious huh! The Zl1 has it and its still priced lower than the completion its blowing away.
The ZL1 is an awesome car, no doubt. It blows away its competition in IMO. However personally I prefer a track car over a GT. But then again for me it's just a fun toy, not transportation.
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My original intention is to have a car that I can go on spirited runs on the back roads. The Z/28 would be perfect for that! I am especially impressed with the LS7 engine. I really wish they would have this as an option in a 1LE. So if it was this or that (one or the other) I would take the Z/28. One of the main reasons I want a Camaro is to haul the whole family (3). With it's lack of creature comforts, minimal cushioned back seat, the price, and presumed lack of availability(all of the collectors will be knocking each other over for one). I don't think a Z/28 is feasible for me.

The ZL1 is more affordable, apparently more accessible, and more comfortable. The only problem I have with it is it's weight and gas mileage, then I wonder about the heat soak which is common with roots type S/C.

So if I had my way, I would get a Z/28 with A/C, and an aftermarket stereo, with a comfortable back seat. But then it would weight close to a Zl1! I remember when the Mustang GT500 came out. The local ford dealer would even let the public touch it, and the price was nearly twice MSRP. I have a feeling the Z/28 will see the same thing when the first ones hit the showrooms.
I don't see the Z/28 as a family hauler. Think of the Z/28 as a 1LE on serious steroids. And no it would not weigh anywhere near the ZL1 by adding those few things. I believe after all I've read and heard that the Z/28 will weigh significantly less than the 1LE.
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I don't see the Z/28 as a family hauler. Think of the Z/28 as a 1LE on serious steroids. And no it would not weigh anywhere near the ZL1 by adding those few things. I believe after all I've read and heard that the Z/28 will weigh significantly less than the 1LE.
It would be more of a family hauler than my corvette.

My corvette suits my interests just fine. But the lack of a backseat limits my ability to include the family in my car culture interests. I can't take the family for ice cream in Coronado, or pie in Julian (mountain tourist stop in the hils from San Diego) with a corvette.

I think I read somewhere that the Z/28 would be about 300 lbs lightrer than the ZL1. I honestly don't remember where and I could be wrong. With A/C and a stereo, it will be within 200 pounds of a ZL1. I would much prefer a Camaro with an LS7 under the hood. Whixch would be a Z/28. But I just don't think it's going to work out that way for me. Not that I'm complaining. I sure others feel the same way I do.

Edit: Like I said, If somebody put a Z/28 and a ZL1 infront of me and said pick one, it would probably be the Z/28. But I think the ZL1 will be the best choice for my overall needs.

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It would be more of a family hauler than my corvette.

My corvette suits my interests just fine. But the lack of a backseat limits my ability to include the family in my car culture interests. I can't take the family for ice cream in Coronado, or pie in Julian (mountain tourist stop in the hils from San Diego) with a corvette.

I think I read somewhere that the Z/28 would be about 300 lbs lightrer than the ZL1. I honestly don't remember where and I could be wrong. With A/C and a stereo, it will be within 200 pounds of a ZL1. I would much prefer a Camaro with an LS7 under the hood. Whixch would be a Z/28. But I just don't think it's going to work out that way for me. Not that I'm complaining. I sure others feel the same way I do.

Edit: Like I said, If somebody put a Z/28 and a ZL1 infront of me and said pick one, it would probably be the Z/28. But I think the ZL1 will be the best choice for my overall needs.
The Z/28 will be more hardcore than your Vette only with a backseat. The 1LE is almost 300 lbs less than a ZL1, the Z/28 will be less than a 1LE. My guess by at least 100 lbs.
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I was going to get a Z/28 but as my car is my daily driver I went for the ZL1. Im hoping I can still afford to add the Z/28 as a weekend road bomber but Im not giving up my ZL1.
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