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Old 06-15-2013, 06:58 PM   #1
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How hot should the engine bay get?

The thread about the recent C5 fire got me thinking about how much hotter the engine bay in my 1LE seems to get compared to my truck and wife's car, and how much longer it retains heat. For example, the car has been parked for almost 2hours in 75F air after a 40 minute drive at normal highway/town conditions and I can't comfortably leave my hand on anything in the engine bay for more than a second or two. So, I was wondering if anyone has ever measured engine bay temps on theirs. I found the link below... not from a C5 but maybe somewhat relevant.

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Old 06-15-2013, 07:01 PM   #2
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Hex hood vents and ceramic coat your headers if theyre stainless. two best things you can do to reduce engine bay temps
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Old 06-15-2013, 07:20 PM   #3
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I had a 1979 jeep CJ-5 that was like that, you couldn't even pull the dipstick out because the handle was so hot. I put one of the aluminum billet oil caps on my 2010 and it got so hot I couldn't touch it either after the car got to temperature.
I wonder if my TL1 hood insert helps much.
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Old 06-15-2013, 08:44 PM   #4
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Mine is the same way. I don't know specific temperatures, but I believe it was designed that way on purpose so the car doesn't need as much time to "warm up" if you choose to go out again only a short time after your previous drive. BMWs are designed this way as well.
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Old 06-16-2013, 02:16 AM   #5
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Mine is the same way. I don't know specific temperatures, but I believe it was designed that way on purpose so the car doesn't need as much time to "warm up" if you choose to go out again only a short time after your previous drive. BMWs are designed this way as well.
Not exactly. Its inherent to the design of the car. Air forced through the rad, makes hotter air blow onto the engine/engine bay and then the pull-fans do it even more. Aluminum block and heads also lets more heat dissipate faster in the engine bay too. The problem is without hood vents or some sort of extractor, theirs a lot of excess heat. The excess heat soaks into your intake tract and that slows the car down as hotter air is less dense and therefore you'll make less power

Contrary to that though, engines run best when they are hot. The hotter the more efficient (up until a point obviously).
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Old 06-16-2013, 03:12 AM   #6
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Not exactly. Its inherent to the design of the car. Air forced through the rad, makes hotter air blow onto the engine/engine bay and then the pull-fans do it even more. Aluminum block and heads also lets more heat dissipate faster in the engine bay too. The problem is without hood vents or some sort of extractor, theirs a lot of excess heat. The excess heat soaks into your intake tract and that slows the car down as hotter air is less dense and therefore you'll make less power

Contrary to that though, engines run best when they are hot. The hotter the more efficient (up until a point obviously).
right. Hot(operating temp) engine, cold air, best combo
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Old 06-16-2013, 05:39 AM   #7
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The thread about the recent C5 fire got me thinking about how much hotter the engine bay in my 1LE seems to get compared to my truck and wife's car, and how much longer it retains heat. For example, the car has been parked for almost 2hours in 75F air after a 40 minute drive at normal highway/town conditions and I can't comfortably leave my hand on anything in the engine bay for more than a second or two. So, I was wondering if anyone has ever measured engine bay temps on theirs. I found the link below... not from a C5 but maybe somewhat relevant.

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Old 06-16-2013, 09:19 AM   #8
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No heat-soak here. I have the TL1 hood insert and removed the drip tray. Heat pours out like a flood ..also when I get home after 90+ temps I pop the hood.
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Old 06-16-2013, 10:52 AM   #9
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Old 06-16-2013, 10:57 AM   #10
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I was thinking about this last night. Went for a drive got home and the car sat for 30-45 min. I then went to check my oil and I couldn't touch the dipstick (billet not stick) without a rag.

The heat was still radiating from the engine bay. Next time I will hit it with a temp fun


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Old 06-18-2013, 01:02 AM   #11
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We work on just as many vettes as we do camaros(which is a lot!). Vettes have a much higher problem with heat due to the design. Less air flow through the engine bay, the opening is much more restrictive.

Just adding headers to a vette will sometimes cause heating issues. Luckily the camaro is not as a sensitive. Coating the headers as well as a fan adjustment helps out greatly.
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Old 06-18-2013, 01:50 AM   #12
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As long as it doesn't get as hot as The Stig's you should be fine.

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Old 06-18-2013, 05:22 AM   #13
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Silly question, but is this why people go to the 160 thermostat, or is that for soemthing else?
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Old 06-18-2013, 05:43 AM   #14
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I pop the hood on my car, after a good drive. Don't ask me why, I just do it.. LOL!!
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:40 PM   #15
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I checked mine today

Outside temp around 90

This was the highest reading i seen (on engine cover). Nothing lower than about 145 I could find




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That's fine!

OP is panicking.
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:50 PM   #17
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Vehicles don't spontaneously combust due to heat issues. Stig's issue was likely electrical, or fuel leak, etc. Excessive heat under the hood might melt some stuff, but it won't start thing on fire without an ignition source.

It's normal.
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Silly question, but is this why people go to the 160 thermostat, or is that for soemthing else?
Engine coolant .. Highly debatable if it keeps coolant down ... Brings the fans on quicker ... The sweet spot is 180 to 190. ... I have one and I think it helps .. I very rarely clear 190. Lord only knows what the engine bay is and nor do I care
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Engine coolant .. Highly debatable if it keeps coolant down ... Brings the fans on quicker ... The sweet spot is 180 to 190. ... I have one and I think it helps .. I very rarely clear 190. Lord only knows what the engine bay is and nor do I care
Hmm changing to a 160 degree thermostat has no effect on what temperature the fans kick on at. The thermostat is a mechanical device that allows water to circulate through the radiator when the temperature reaches the thermostat setting. The fans are controlled by the actual temperature the engine gets, measured by an electronic temperature sensor, if they kicked on at 200 degrees before it will still take 200 degrees for the fan to operate.
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Thank you for the lesson my good sir. Now that I think of it my tuner did mention he tuned the car to always have the fans on. He did that when he switched the thermostat, my memory is not what it used to be Lol.
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you need to check out a vette then u will be ok. those things get hot with some headers .
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Royal Purple makes an additive that you can add to your coolant. Drops temp by 10 to 15 deg's. My car use to run above 200 now hovers around 190 sometimes 185 down the interstate.
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Royal Purple makes an additive that you can add to your coolant. Drops temp by 10 to 15 deg's. My car use to run above 200 now hovers around 190 sometimes 185 down the interstate.

That will not change your underhood temps.
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Our engines are designed to run it's best at the certain temp ...a cooler running engine isn't a better running engine.. if people are talking about heat-soak then that's an entirely different issue.
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