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Old 08-12-2013, 07:00 PM   #1
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need help buying 2014 ss HELP FAST

alright guys i did like you said and went to take a look at an ss ( as well as m3 and c63) but i need some help . due to my father hating a stick shift in nyc im forced to get an auto because he will want to drive it once in a while. and i heard the auto makes 26 less hp. is that a big jump and i just feel weird upgrading to a v8 for 80 hp... please help guys and is the car noticeably slower?
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:04 PM   #2
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alright guys i did like you said and went to take a look at an ss ( as well as m3 and c63) but i need some help . due to my father hating a stick shift in nyc im forced to get an auto because he will want to drive it once in a while. and i heard the auto makes 26 less hp. is that a big jump and i just feel weird upgrading to a v8 for 80 hp... please help guys and is the car noticeably slower?
Their will be a difference between the Manual and Automatic Camaro.
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The auto is still fast
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:15 PM   #4
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I think GM lists a .1 second difference in the quarter mile. L99s are plenty fast.
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I Never driven the auto before so I cant compare the 2. Not to sound smart, but is your father helping you pay for the car? If you really want the stick, you might have that after thought that you should have gotten the stick from the get go haunt you. I know NYC has busy streets so that might nip it in the bud right there. Especially if its your only car.
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I don't think you can go wrong either way and ultimalely it's up to you. But if you have that dying feeling (like I do) definitely get the stick. Assuming you feel like dealing with traffic. If not, save yourself the hassle and get the auto.
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:18 PM   #6
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okay thankg guys but i need a definite answer
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:19 PM   #7
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okay thankg guys but i need a definite answer
Yes!! Their will be a difference in how fast the automatic is compared to the manual but the automatic Camaro is still pretty quick.
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:22 PM   #8
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Get the manual it's obvious you want one.
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:31 PM   #9
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damn im stuck 400 horsepower sucks . lol now gt's are going to beat me worse.
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:47 PM   #10
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damn im stuck 400 horsepower sucks . lol now gt's are going to beat me worse.
even if you get a M6 a 5.0 gt will beat you stock for stock ( everything being equal)
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:50 PM   #11
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i know it just make the situation worst lol cause the auto is slower.
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:59 PM   #12
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i know it just make the situation worst lol cause the auto is slower.
Unless you can shift and launch the manual like a pro the automatic will probably beat you in the 1/4 mile 9 times out of 10. So that extra 26 hp won't do you any good.
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Old 08-12-2013, 08:03 PM   #13
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thank you sin r g thats the answer i wanna hear lol
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Old 08-12-2013, 08:08 PM   #14
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alright guys i did like you said and went to take a look at an ss ( as well as m3 and c63) but i need some help . due to my father hating a stick shift in nyc im forced to get an auto because he will want to drive it once in a while. and i heard the auto makes 26 less hp. is that a big jump and i just feel weird upgrading to a v8 for 80 hp... please help guys and is the car noticeably slower?
You're not just upgrading the horsepower. You'll notice the torque difference the most. Not to mention the other upgrades like the Brembos ... another huge difference.
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We have 1 of each, and the torque is defiantly less on the automatic.

The auto is a convertible and my daily driver so those 2 things make up for it, living in sunny Southern California I drive topless alot!

We track both cars a lot, On the drag strip the auto is faster but that is mainly because the shifting of the auto is just that automatic vs human intervention with the manual.
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Old 08-12-2013, 08:37 PM   #16
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I have a 2010 LS3, my dad has a 2011 L99, I have driven both and there is clearly a difference between the two. I can honestly say I would not be happy if I were to have chosen the L99.
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Old 08-12-2013, 08:43 PM   #17
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OP please read this. You're not just talking about a difference in transmission, shifting, driving experience, and horsepower.

You're talking about two entirely different engines. The manual comes with the legendary LS3 introduced in the Corvette in 2008. It's utterly bullet proof and can be modified to be a truly legitimate racing engine in every conceivable way. Not that it needs it

There's also a difference in sound

Get the manual, get the LS3. Don't deprive yourself from experiencing a piece of automotive history.
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Old 08-12-2013, 08:44 PM   #18
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your making 26hp sound like 100 hp lol its not alot at all. my auto is fast dont listen to the "oh you need the man pedal" guys. the 26hp isnt the end of the world and with a quick dyno tune and intake upgrade you will gain that right back. and thats why at the drag strip most of the cars that run the fastest 1/4 miles are automatics... and even the newest Ferrari's and lamobo's are only coming in paddle shift, no more clutch pedal. the auto will be plenty fast for you. but if i were you get the c63 amg!!! are u crazy?!!?!? that thing is a beast and f*ck the m3 it sucks IMO. either way you cant lose. man i wish my parents would buy me a car and give me those 3 options lol first world problems for sure
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You live in Queens and want to drive a stick? Add a Range AFM, a CAI, and a Vmax tb and you'll be at or around the same hp as a LS3 and may be faster also for about $700.
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Old 08-12-2013, 09:14 PM   #20
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Tune, CAI inc intake, and exhaust you will never miss that 26hp. Hell add to that the longtubes and a cam with LS3 conversion and you wont care. Stock though the L99 auto is terrible due to AFM and shitty shift points.
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OP please read this. You're not just talking about a difference in transmission, shifting, driving experience, and horsepower.

You're talking about two entirely different engines.The manual comes with the legendary LS3 introduced in the Corvette in 2008. It's utterly bullet proof and can be modified to be a truly legitimate racing engine in every conceivable way. Not that it needs it

There's also a difference in sound

Get the manual, get the LS3. Don't deprive yourself from experiencing a piece of automotive history.
I'm sorry, so I guess the L99 is made from old washing machine parts or something

Very uneducated comment.

The L99 is basically an LS3, it just has a few changes from the LS3 to accommodate for AFM. You can easily look up what they are.
The L99 is still a 376 Cubic inch LS motor like the LS3
The bore and stroke are the same on both motors and both are cast aluminum.
And yes both are bulletproof and legendary.
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The A6 makes up for the HP disadvantage in several ways. GM has tuned the gearing ratio, torque converter, and Variable Valve Timing (VVT) to make up for the lost efficiency the auto transmission has compared to the manual. This is why they run nearly identical 1/4 mile and 0-60 times, only a handful of stud drivers have lower "hero" times than the A6. For us mere normal men it won't make much of a difference.

First, the A6 has more aggressive gearing ratios than the M6 which combined with the torque converter provide lots of low end torque. The other bonus to the L99 is the VVT which make both low end torque and high end HP, the LS3 can only have one timing setting so it is not capable of this. The new LT1 engine has VVT as does almost every performance engine these days because of the benefit of making more power under the curve than a conventional push rod.

There is a good thread somewhere in here about the benefits of not doing the L99 to LS3 conversion with lots of good information. I love the A6 but am trading it in for the 1LE, makes my decision pretty easy this time.
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I'm sorry, so I guess the L99 is made from old washing machine parts or something

Very uneducated comment.

The L99 is basically an LS3, it just has a few changes from the LS3 to accommodate for AFM. You can easily look up what they are.
The L99 is still a 376 Cubic inch LS motor like the LS3
The bore and stroke are the same on both motors and both are cast aluminum.
And yes both are bulletproof and legendary.
ive seen L99's make 600hp easily. that was an extremely uneducated comment. with the mods i plan on doing my L99 will hold up just fine to other fast cars. OP i live on Long Island and i can assure you of this most likely you will not have as much fun with the stick as with the auto. both are awesome but because of where we live the stick is a little more tedious to deal with and unless your an awesome manual driver you wont be smoking anything but your clutch lol most guys fail to mention that the M6 camaro isnt the smoothest manual in the world stock. i drove a buddies and it was great but if you dont drive stick all the time GOOD luck those first couple weeks will be fun
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Old 08-13-2013, 12:40 AM   #24
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wow learned a lot of good info thanks a lot guys. as you can see i obviously dont know much about cars. and my parents arent buying me these cars lol . they bought me the v6 camaro and the only reason im trading it in is cause the 6s are becoming rental cars which will turn the value of my car into SHIT. im working now and i can afford the monthly payments of all three cars. i want the c63 but i cant afford the car in the long run. so the ss is looking quite great.
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Old 08-13-2013, 12:41 AM   #25
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and to the guys who are going to whine about me being spoiled, just talk to my 120,000 thousand dollar scholarship to any country in america. didnt mean to sound like a dick but it always happens. thanks again everyone.
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