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Old 07-01-2009, 11:41 AM   #26
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your story made me lol. I mean, I know v8 guys maybe have a different mentality, but pulling into a mall to do a burnout? seriously?
Its a fairly quiet mall that is dying. lol Its got massive parking lots that aren't even used. I'm talking about 1,500+ parking spaces that aren't used..Well, they are, but not for parking..
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Old 07-01-2009, 01:17 PM   #27
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Wow...Good thing you weren't trying out launch control at the drag strip or some other racing venue....

Glad to hear the dealer is looking out for you. Hate to hear that it happened but if you're gonna break something, it's best to do it when you're still under warranty.
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Old 07-01-2009, 01:22 PM   #28
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Ah, such much fun driving my Camaro. Took my neighbor out tonight for a ride and decided to hit the mall parking lot for a quick burnout. Well, didn't get to do the burnout, instead I decided to try out the Launch Control... So I get it into Competitive mode, mash the accelerator to the floor. I check, and its holding about 4200 rpms like it shoud.... Every thing looks fine and dandy... Dump the clutch... BAMMMMMMM!

Now here I am with my neighbor friend, and the first thing he says... " oh shit!, you're done...".... As far as I can tell, the tremec didn't hold up to the dump of the clutch. I can't get the camaro to move in gear now at all.. Leaking trans fluid going everywhere on the ground.... called onstar.. Get everything set up to get it towed back to the dealer right now. I am sure the tremec's tail shaft snapped..

So much for launch control... Maybe if I had slippery tires, it wouldn't of been a problem.. Oh, and while waiting for the Tow truck guy, here comes this ricer into the parking lot doing donuts and just making me feel worse about the whole situation.. I still love the Camaro though.. Now I have to sit and wait while I figure out what the dealer is going to do about it.

Anybody else's M6 transmission broke yet from burnouts/ launch control?
You know it's your fault and not the tranny. Hell why are you being so rough on a car that you barely had for over a week? Nothing is even broke in yet and your acting like a clown. I know this wasn't the first time you got on it so maybe do as instructed next time and wait to actually break the car in instead of just breaking it.
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Old 07-01-2009, 02:07 PM   #29
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You know it's your fault and not the tranny. Hell why are you being so rough on a car that you barely had for over a week? Nothing is even broke in yet and your acting like a clown. I know this wasn't the first time you got on it so maybe do as instructed next time and wait to actually break the car in instead of just breaking it.
Uh... Why do you care so much about me getting on it? Am I somehow related to you? Are you my long lost Uncle that supposedly died in Vietnam? So, what if i was to say that I have 2600 miles on the car and the engine oil and rear end oil was changed already? How do you know what the mileage on my car is and if its broken in? Either way, the unit would of failed... I don't see being rough on my Camaro when Launch Control is a feature of the damn car.
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:42 PM   #30
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Its a fairly quiet mall that is dying. lol Its got massive parking lots that aren't even used. I'm talking about 1,500+ parking spaces that aren't used..Well, they are, but not for parking..

I know that mall, used to live in Overland Park. Wow, that was 12 years ago.

Anyways, hope you get your car fixed soon and I hope its permanent. Just be glad you didn't spend $90,000 on a Nissan GTR only to be told that you will void the warranty if you do half of the stuff it is actually capable of.

To all of those that are ready to throw GM to the wolves, come on, this is a situation faced by every manufacturer all the time.

Toyota bought back thousands of Tacomas for frame rust, Nissan won't warrant the GTR if you use launch control and Ford recalled my F-150 because the brake booster could cease to function, causing me to lose power assist (fine for me, but my wife would have gone apeshit).
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:44 PM   #31
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You know it's your fault and not the tranny. Hell why are you being so rough on a car that you barely had for over a week? Nothing is even broke in yet and your acting like a clown. I know this wasn't the first time you got on it so maybe do as instructed next time and wait to actually break the car in instead of just breaking it.
Wow, you took this from a discussion on the strength of the Tremec to a discussion on the morals and responsibility of the new auto owner.

They put launch control on the car, I'm sure as hell gonna try it.
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:14 PM   #32
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You know it's your fault and not the tranny. Hell why are you being so rough on a car that you barely had for over a week? Nothing is even broke in yet and your acting like a clown. I know this wasn't the first time you got on it so maybe do as instructed next time and wait to actually break the car in instead of just breaking it.
uhh yeah, you dont need to break in a transmission tailshaft, theres no reason for it to shatter like that. Using the built in launch control feature in an empty lot is acting like a clown? What would you say if he was going 75 in a 65?
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Old 07-01-2009, 09:19 PM   #33
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Hey mustang boy, the TR6060 is used by the GT500, Corvette, Viper SRT10, Challenger, and others. You really wanna fault GM for picking the TR6060?

and just about everyone of those cars have owners that have beef with that transmission

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Same tranny, but maybe not the same specs. I know there is a difference between the T6060 in the Viper and what's in my car. Input shafts and outputs shafts are likely different, too.


exactly. Just like the t-5 transmission, all called t-5s but there has got to be 15-30 different ones, different specs, input shafts, output shafts, etc etc etc

even bellhousing design can change the strength of the transmission, which is a GM design, or FORD design, etc etc to match up to the engine block.


Not saying it only happens to the camaro, shit i broke 5 transmissions in my car.......... granted im putting more torque to the wheels than an LS3 makes at the flywheel lol on a transmission thats meant to handle half the torque of the tr6060 (less than half)
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Old 07-01-2009, 10:10 PM   #34
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before posting your negative comment ... please read post #14

you may need to read it twice

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Old 07-02-2009, 10:40 PM   #35
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Sounds like it's becoming a growing problem , and don't even need to be hard on it.
I did a launch with the Comp mode on and the clutch wouldn't return at all until I stopped. Clutch slipped like hell.

We have self-adjusting clutches - Went to my dealer and there was a service bulletin for the C6 Corvette's / Same tranny.. Nothing for the Camaro, tranny seems fine now.

They wrote an RO on it to keep in history.
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Old 07-03-2009, 06:49 AM   #36
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transmission and axel shafth issue

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Ah, such much fun driving my Camaro. Took my neighbor out tonight for a ride and decided to hit the mall parking lot for a quick burnout. Well, didn't get to do the burnout, instead I decided to try out the Launch Control... So I get it into Competitive mode, mash the accelerator to the floor. I check, and its holding about 4200 rpms like it shoud.... Every thing looks fine and dandy... Dump the clutch... BAMMMMMMM!

Now here I am with my neighbor friend, and the first thing he says... " oh shit!, you're done...".... As far as I can tell, the tremec didn't hold up to the dump of the clutch. I can't get the camaro to move in gear now at all.. Leaking trans fluid going everywhere on the ground.... called onstar.. Get everything set up to get it towed back to the dealer right now. I am sure the tremec's tail shaft snapped..

So much for launch control... Maybe if I had slippery tires, it wouldn't of been a problem.. Oh, and while waiting for the Tow truck guy, here comes this ricer into the parking lot doing donuts and just making me feel worse about the whole situation.. I still love the Camaro though.. Now I have to sit and wait while I figure out what the dealer is going to do about it.

Anybody else's M6 transmission broke yet from burnouts/ launch control?
my friend ,i broke 1 axel shafth(right) the day after delevry, b/o for 2 weeks,i repair(rebuilt) the broken shafth during the wait,bammmm broke again,after 2 weeks i receive the news shafth and sold the car

i find a news 6 speeds ls3 camaro and 3 hours after delevry bammmmmmm i broke the output shafth of the tranny,i did not make 1 single inches of burn out with the car , again b/o mexico for 2 weeks

now i drove my car and i enjoy to look the donuts on the asphalt make by other cars, like mustang with rigid differential:m ad0260::mad026 0:
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Old 07-03-2009, 07:13 AM   #37
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vin of the first car 4250 vin of the second car 114461 qc call me from detroit and says me they hav an issue and they are sorry

I AM BECAUSE ,NOT IT BROKE,BUT BECAUSE


BACK ORDER AXEL SHAFTH FOR 2 WEEKS FROM I DONT KNOW

BACK ORDER MEXICO QUERETARO TREMMEC PLANT FOR 2 WEEKS

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Old 07-03-2009, 08:01 AM   #38
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There are different TR6060's if that even makes sense. Different specifications as someone posted earlier.

You really didn't think that you would be getting the same tranny for a $35k car that's in a $80k car did ya? I wouldn't be suprised if the tranny in the gt500 is a different TR6060 than whats in the Maro SS.
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Old 07-03-2009, 03:31 PM   #39
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AXLE SHAFTH and tremmec output shafth problems

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It's not the fault of launch control, it's a problem with the output shaft of cars built in the mid 16thousands.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29895

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...383#post634383

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29989

GM is aware of the problem and apparently re-routed some cars to Detroit to get fixed after build but before delivery. Hopefully they get you a new transmission soon.

This makes #4 I believe, all built very close to each other.
my axle shafth problem car was vin 4250

my output shafth problem car was 114461
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Old 07-05-2009, 04:09 PM   #40
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Hmm, wasn't there some other car that broke when using launch control?


FAIL!


Axles breaking, output shafts breaking...

Oh, don't do burnouts in your Camaro SS - it will break.

That is their primary function!


Just fix it. Fix it good.
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Old 07-05-2009, 04:29 PM   #41
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Hello guys,

This problem with the transmission is only with V8 and manual trans or with V6 or automatic ones too?
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Old 07-05-2009, 04:33 PM   #42
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excuse this question of its stupid but is this something that will happen to all cars sooner or later? ive dumped the clutch quite a few times at over 4krpms with traction control on in comp mode or everything off and havent had a issue yet should i be ok or No? maybe done it 15 times or so
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Old 07-05-2009, 06:42 PM   #43
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excuse this question of its stupid but is this something that will happen to all cars sooner or later? ive dumped the clutch quite a few times at over 4krpms with traction control on in comp mode or everything off and havent had a issue yet should i be ok or No? maybe done it 15 times or so
Well, I'm not one to say since I don't work for GM, but I would say chances are greater if one was to dump clutches/launch control/burnouts on a continued basis. How many launches you can get before it breaks? but eventually something is going to wear out and / or break. Just sucks that it happened to break on me the first time I tried launch control. Hopefully I will be getting the car back tomorrow.

I'll tell ya.. I am scared to death to try another launch control with it. Maybe I will stick to rolling starts instead..

Another thing, I did do a couple burnouts a couple days before the launch control, and when I would dump the clutch, I would always get a very noticeable "Thud" noise coming from either the tranny or rear end. Probably the output shaft cracking at the time....
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well call me stupid but . IM FURIOUS took the car out for supper stopped at stop sigh revved the car to about 3500-4k then dumped clutch and thud broken car ..im very mad i hope they have a fix/upgrade for it cause if the car does it again after repair i dont know what ill doo..
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:09 PM   #45
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:23 PM   #46
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ill let ya know when i get home i just dropped it off at dealer
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Old 07-05-2009, 10:33 PM   #47
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It's not the fault of launch control, it's a problem with the output shaft of cars built in the mid 16thousands.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29895

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...383#post634383

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29989

GM is aware of the problem and apparently re-routed some cars to Detroit to get fixed after build but before delivery. Hopefully they get you a new transmission soon.

This makes #4 I believe, all built very close to each other.
Thanks as always for keeping things in check andgrounded with reality.
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mine is vin # 13070
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I did a launch with the Comp mode on and the clutch wouldn't return at all until I stopped. Clutch slipped like hell.

We have self-adjusting clutches - Went to my dealer and there was a service bulletin for the C6 Corvette's / Same tranny.. Nothing for the Camaro, tranny seems fine now.

They wrote an RO on it to keep in history.
Same exact thing happened to me the first time I tried launch control. Clutch got stuck half way and wouldn't return.

Burned the clutch nicely....fortunately no permanent damage (that I know of).
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okay guys first off don't take this the wrong way but I drag race competitively, I have an NHRA competition license and i have been doing it for close to 15 years...

GM putting a "launch control" in these cars was dumb IMO. I know it's there but dumping your clutch at 4,000 rpm's is just plain asking for trouble even without sticky tires.. You are going to get better acceleration slipping the clutch than straight dumping it until you get some serious hardware underneath it and a much better clutch. People are going to be frying clutches left and right. Are clutches warrantied items? Last time i checked they werent cause they are wear/tear items.....

honestly stop using that stupid crap. I GUARANTEE GM will not include the launch control for the 2011 camaro cause it's gonna cost them more money in the long run fixing broke cars....
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