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Old 07-05-2009, 06:42 PM   #43
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excuse this question of its stupid but is this something that will happen to all cars sooner or later? ive dumped the clutch quite a few times at over 4krpms with traction control on in comp mode or everything off and havent had a issue yet should i be ok or No? maybe done it 15 times or so
Well, I'm not one to say since I don't work for GM, but I would say chances are greater if one was to dump clutches/launch control/burnouts on a continued basis. How many launches you can get before it breaks? but eventually something is going to wear out and / or break. Just sucks that it happened to break on me the first time I tried launch control. Hopefully I will be getting the car back tomorrow.

I'll tell ya.. I am scared to death to try another launch control with it. Maybe I will stick to rolling starts instead..

Another thing, I did do a couple burnouts a couple days before the launch control, and when I would dump the clutch, I would always get a very noticeable "Thud" noise coming from either the tranny or rear end. Probably the output shaft cracking at the time....
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:03 PM   #44
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well call me stupid but . IM FURIOUS took the car out for supper stopped at stop sigh revved the car to about 3500-4k then dumped clutch and thud broken car ..im very mad i hope they have a fix/upgrade for it cause if the car does it again after repair i dont know what ill doo..
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:09 PM   #45
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:23 PM   #46
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ill let ya know when i get home i just dropped it off at dealer
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Old 07-05-2009, 10:33 PM   #47
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It's not the fault of launch control, it's a problem with the output shaft of cars built in the mid 16thousands.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29895

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...383#post634383

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29989

GM is aware of the problem and apparently re-routed some cars to Detroit to get fixed after build but before delivery. Hopefully they get you a new transmission soon.

This makes #4 I believe, all built very close to each other.
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Old 07-05-2009, 10:39 PM   #48
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mine is vin # 13070
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Old 07-06-2009, 10:11 AM   #49
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I did a launch with the Comp mode on and the clutch wouldn't return at all until I stopped. Clutch slipped like hell.

We have self-adjusting clutches - Went to my dealer and there was a service bulletin for the C6 Corvette's / Same tranny.. Nothing for the Camaro, tranny seems fine now.

They wrote an RO on it to keep in history.
Same exact thing happened to me the first time I tried launch control. Clutch got stuck half way and wouldn't return.

Burned the clutch nicely....fortunately no permanent damage (that I know of).
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Old 07-06-2009, 11:40 AM   #50
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okay guys first off don't take this the wrong way but I drag race competitively, I have an NHRA competition license and i have been doing it for close to 15 years...

GM putting a "launch control" in these cars was dumb IMO. I know it's there but dumping your clutch at 4,000 rpm's is just plain asking for trouble even without sticky tires.. You are going to get better acceleration slipping the clutch than straight dumping it until you get some serious hardware underneath it and a much better clutch. People are going to be frying clutches left and right. Are clutches warrantied items? Last time i checked they werent cause they are wear/tear items.....

honestly stop using that stupid crap. I GUARANTEE GM will not include the launch control for the 2011 camaro cause it's gonna cost them more money in the long run fixing broke cars....
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Old 07-06-2009, 02:50 PM   #51
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Wow, you took this from a discussion on the strength of the Tremec to a discussion on the morals and responsibility of the new auto owner.

They put launch control on the car, I'm sure as hell gonna try it.

V8 Camaros are supposed to freakin MELT their rear tires daily.

This is a metallurgic failure. Not driver error. It would break with or without launch control.




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Hello guys,

This problem with the transmission is only with V8 and manual trans or with V6 or automatic ones too?

V8 only. Breaking trannys and rear cv joints it seems...



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well call me stupid but . IM FURIOUS took the car out for supper stopped at stop sigh revved the car to about 3500-4k then dumped clutch and thud broken car ..im very mad i hope they have a fix/upgrade for it cause if the car does it again after repair i dont know what ill doo..
The idea of NOT doing burnouts in a Camaro SS is stupid. GM has a problem.





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mine is vin # 13070

So much for a limited VIN range for failures...





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okay guys first off don't take this the wrong way but I drag race competitively, I have an NHRA competition license and i have been doing it for close to 15 years...

GM putting a "launch control" in these cars was dumb IMO. I know it's there but dumping your clutch at 4,000 rpm's is just plain asking for trouble even without sticky tires.. You are going to get better acceleration slipping the clutch than straight dumping it until you get some serious hardware underneath it and a much better clutch. People are going to be frying clutches left and right. Are clutches warrantied items? Last time i checked they werent cause they are wear/tear items.....

honestly stop using that stupid crap. I GUARANTEE GM will not include the launch control for the 2011 camaro cause it's gonna cost them more money in the long run fixing broke cars....

They will break with or without launch control.

This is metallugy problem like the Toyota Tundra's V8 camshafts that broke at the beginning of production.

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Old 07-06-2009, 03:24 PM   #52
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This is a metallurgic failure. Not driver error. It would break with or without launch control.
Yeah, I'm going to go pick her up in about an hour. They just got done replacing the tranny. Service guy says that the output shaft wasn't properly hardened and the new one should be fine.. Hope so!
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i sure hope they fix the issue with a upgrade part and no more problems
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Yeah, I'm going to go pick her up in about an hour. They just got done replacing the tranny. Service guy says that the output shaft wasn't properly hardened and the new one should be fine.. Hope so!

Good info. So the failing parts were not hardened properly.

Only good thing I can find here is it sounds like they've identified the cause, and should be able to permanently rectify the situation.



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i sure hope they fix the issue with a upgrade part and no more problems

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Old 07-07-2009, 03:02 AM   #55
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Yeah, I'm going to go pick her up in about an hour. They just got done replacing the tranny. Service guy says that the output shaft wasn't properly hardened and the new one should be fine.. Hope so!
There should be a recall on all these tranny problems. Is there a way to alert GM of all these tranny probs, so they could start looking into it?
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Old 07-07-2009, 06:22 AM   #56
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There should be a recall on all these tranny problems. Is there a way to alert GM of all these tranny probs, so they could start looking into it?
I would say they already know with several cars being fixed for the same issue!
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