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Old 06-30-2009, 09:41 PM   #1
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ZEX Nitrous Kit for LLT V6

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Old 07-01-2009, 04:23 AM   #2
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Had the Zex kit on my 2005 V6 Mustang... Nice kit... good results...



I'm guessing you can run the 55HP jets with the stock tune... but I would think above that you would really want to pull some timing... I can't seem to find anyone that can tune this V6 yet.... Am I missing some thing?
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Old 07-01-2009, 10:00 AM   #3
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pretty cool, especially for some drag racing but im gonna try to stick with all motor, but its nice to hear that some companies are coming out with performance parts for the V6. 100hp does sound good.
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Old 07-01-2009, 10:56 AM   #4
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i am interested, imagine the looks on the SS guys faces when a v6 beats them...
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Old 07-01-2009, 11:04 AM   #5
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Not bad $682 for purple and $692 for the black kits.

Anybody knows on how this would effect the warrenty???
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Old 07-01-2009, 11:14 AM   #6
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Not bad $682 for purple and $692 for the black kits.

Anybody knows on how this would effect the warrenty???
void the crap out of everything powertrain I would guess.
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Old 07-01-2009, 11:35 AM   #7
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i am interested, imagine the looks on the SS guys faces when a v6 beats them...
still less horsepower though if i'm not mistaken 304 + 100 is 404, the m6 has 426?
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Old 07-01-2009, 12:00 PM   #8
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Ya know I am not much for mods, but I have to admit this looks super sweet to add a little extra punch to my girl after I've had her a while. A little performance surgery as we age is good for everyone! Love it!!!
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Old 07-01-2009, 12:02 PM   #9
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still less horsepower though if i'm not mistaken 304 + 100 is 404, the m6 has 426?
what about the weight difference? Also, it should be heads up with the automatic ss don't you think?
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Old 07-01-2009, 12:06 PM   #10
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I wonder what a cold air intake, exhaust, and this nos system would put out in terms of Hp?
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Old 07-01-2009, 12:08 PM   #11
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Still not sure how I feel about nitrous in general, but then again I've never driven a nitrous equipped car.

Glad to see things like this are coming out though.
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Old 07-01-2009, 12:57 PM   #12
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what about the weight difference? Also, it should be heads up with the automatic ss don't you think?
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Old 07-01-2009, 12:59 PM   #13
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Not a fan of Nitrous. too many people dont have a clue what they are doing with this stuff.
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Old 07-01-2009, 01:24 PM   #14
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pretty sweet. wouldn't add it for a few years but would be nice
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Old 07-01-2009, 02:48 PM   #15
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what about the weight difference? Also, it should be heads up with the automatic ss don't you think?
The 100hp on top of 304hp but its the torque of a 100 shot of NOS that gets the job done Some where around 145-165 lbs of torquethats what will give the SS A run for the money
Can you say sleeper dressed like a sheep
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The 100hp on top of 304hp but its the torque of a 100 shot of NOS that gets the job done Some where around 145-165 lbs of torquethats what will give the SS A run for the money
Can you say sleeper dressed like a sheep
Not really related, but in what way is the V6 "dressed like a sheep?" They're almost, if not just, as aggressive looking as the V8.

But watch it if you decide to run that high of a shot. You don't want things getting lean on you...
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The 100hp on top of 304hp but its the torque of a 100 shot of NOS that gets the job done Some where around 145-165 lbs of torquethats what will give the SS A run for the money
Can you say sleeper dressed like a sheep
Yep... look at what a 100 shot did for my 2005 V6 Mustang! LOL!

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Not really related, but in what way is the V6 "dressed like a sheep?" They're almost, if not just, as aggressive looking as the V8.

But watch it if you decide to run that high of a shot. You don't want things getting lean on you...
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That's supposed to be the beauty of the Zex control unit... it's supposed to be smarter than just simple solenoids that just open up... but yeah, always a good idea to strap the car on they dyno just to make sure everything is working like it's supposed to.
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:34 PM   #19
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I don't understand why a V6 owner would void the their warranty's with mods... If you cared about HP the smart thing to do would be spend the extra $3000 up front for the SS and have 426 HP stock with a warranty and good to go.

After all didn't V6 owners buy them because they were cost efficient, practical, and a daily driver that gets good MPG?
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Yep... look at what a 100 shot did for my 2005 V6 Mustang! LOL!

WOW - Look at that torque ! Loving it
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:42 PM   #21
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I don't understand why a V6 owner would void the their warranty's with mods... If you cared about HP the smart thing to do would be spend the extra $3000 up front for the SS and have 426 HP stock with a warranty and good to go.

After all didn't V6 owners buy them because they were cost efficient, practical, and a daily driver that gets good MPG?
I have a V6 SS. Very modable.
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I don't understand why a V6 owner would void the their warranty's with mods... If you cared about HP the smart thing to do would be spend the extra $3000 up front for the SS and have 426 HP stock with a warranty and good to go.

After all didn't V6 owners buy them because they were cost efficient, practical, and a daily driver that gets good MPG?
I'm going to ignore this post for the most part except to point out a flaw in your logic. Assuming all you care about is the engine and tranny, then you'd be perfectly happy purchasing a 1LS (after all, even the SS wheels are too heavy and those tires will never do for the track), at which point you're really saving 8,000 dollars, not 3.

And thats a lot of go-fast parts.
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I don't understand why a V6 owner would void the their warranty's with mods... If you cared about HP the smart thing to do would be spend the extra $3000 up front for the SS and have 426 HP stock with a warranty and good to go.

After all didn't V6 owners buy them because they were cost efficient, practical, and a daily driver that gets good MPG?
It's a V6 thing... you wouldn't get it... LOL! j/k...

When I did my Mustang V6 there was an $8,000 dollar difference... and I had no intention of modding it when I bought it... stuff just happens... LOL!

BTW... I had warranty work done on my throttle body even though my Nitrous was installed in plain sight and was in fact spliced into the TPS on the TB... Still had my numbers from the track on the window... and when the service writer poked his head in the the car to get the mileage, he looked up at me and said "why is there a helmet in your car?" He just kind of smiled knowingly... They also did some warranty work on a tranny leak.. LOL
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:47 PM   #24
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I don't understand why a V6 owner would void the their warranty's with mods... If you cared about HP the smart thing to do would be spend the extra $3000 up front for the SS and have 426 HP stock with a warranty and good to go.

After all didn't V6 owners buy them because they were cost efficient, practical, and a daily driver that gets good MPG?
Why does anyone mod anything? Because they can.

Lighter, cheaper, far more technologically advanced and a few years from now when forced induction becomes more common...going to be a stormer. I also personally hate the fake mail slot of the SS, but that's just me.

426hp is fun, but you deal with the gas guzzling aspect even if you try and baby it all the time. Lightly modded 6's will retain their driving style, probably increase MPG slightly and still be able to romp around when asked. If you want fast right out of the box, and feel like dropping 4-10K more on the car depending on options, then SS's are an easy choice. If you enjoy a far more techie engine and think of the car as more of a sports coupe than a muscle car, the 6 is a no brainier.

I'm bias, turbo 6's FTW.
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Well, the good news is that they've at least tested this system to 100hp shot levels w/o the ability to tune. That would be a little harry for me w/o seeing their dyno runs, EGT and knock count levels -- but with supplementary fuel they don't seem to be hitting a condition where spark retard is required. That's really good news... changes many of the "what if" conditions required planning FI setups from an tuning standpoint.

With the processing power and the speed that corrections can be made (thanks to the DI portion of the system) I think this ecu is going to VERY adaptive to changes to variables. Now if I could only find the frigging injector flow rates LOL
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