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Old 06-17-2013, 09:36 AM   #1
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Beefed up drive train on 1LE?

I am on my way out to (hopefully) swing a deal on a black 2013 2SS/RS 1LE. I have been reading about the 1LE since 5:45am this morning. I know it has "beefed up" axles, and I think a beefier transmission than an SS. Is the drive shaft the same as the SS? I'm asking because I have a red Magnuson supercharger sitting in the spare bedroom waiting to be installed. Since I bought the supercharger, the concern for snapping an axle or the drive shaft has been in the back of my mind. If those are more heavy duty in the 1LE, I am vibrating with excitement over the thought of driving it supercharged!!!

BTW I can not believe the different/better features on the '13 1LE vs my 2010 SS! The 1LE sounds incredible ( I don't mean the exhaust, but I can imagine it sounds killer with the NPP and exhaust commander)
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:22 AM   #2
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Same driveshaft, same tranny just different ratio...There are several supercharged 1LE's on this forum...SUKXOST for example
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:51 AM   #3
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The transmission is the same as found in the Z06.
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Old 06-17-2013, 11:00 AM   #4
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Good luck on the purchase, you will love the 1LE.
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Old 06-17-2013, 11:31 AM   #5
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Same driveshaft, same tranny just different ratio...There are several supercharged 1LE's on this forum...SUKXOST for example
Not exactly... the Tremec used in the 1LE performance package also has some cooling as well as different gearing.
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Old 06-17-2013, 11:35 AM   #6
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I know it has "beefed up" axles, and I think a beefier transmission than an SS.
The only part of the 1LE axle that is "beefier" is the outer CV joint. Everything else including splines on both ends are the same. The diameter of the shafts the same. If you're SC-ing, I wouldn't get too excited that these will hold up much better than the stock SS. Avoid hard launches. I posted a thread with a picture showing the difference in size of the two axles' CVs. If you're interested just search for it.
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Old 06-17-2013, 12:30 PM   #7
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Same driveshaft, same tranny just different ratio...There are several supercharged 1LE's on this forum...SUKXOST for example
Isn't the transmission the same as in the Z06?
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Old 06-17-2013, 01:11 PM   #8
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Isn't the transmission the same as in the Z06?

No idea LOL...

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"Tremec TR6060-MM6 six-speed manual transmission. Combined with a numerically higher 3.91 final-drive ratio, the close-ratio gearing of the transmission is updated for road-racing performance. As with the ZL1, the 1LE transmission capabilities a standard air-to-liquid cooling system for track use."

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Old 06-17-2013, 01:18 PM   #9
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http://corvetteactioncenter.com/spec...008tr6060.html

The link above shows all the specs on the 1LE tranny which is the same as the Z06. Hmmm interesting I did not know that.
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Old 06-17-2013, 01:48 PM   #10
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the standard m6 has cooling too, its just no one seems to talk about it or realize it exists for some reason.
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Old 06-17-2013, 03:40 PM   #11
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http://corvetteactioncenter.com/spec...008tr6060.html

The link above shows all the specs on the 1LE tranny which is the same as the Z06. Hmmm interesting I did not know that.
Same gearing but not same transmission.
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Old 06-17-2013, 03:51 PM   #12
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Same gearing but not same transmission.
I think both cars have the MM6. I do believe they are the same.
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Old 06-17-2013, 05:38 PM   #13
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the standard m6 has cooling too, its just no one seems to talk about it or realize it exists for some reason.
No it doesn't. The engine oil cooler is standard but the standard manual trans on the SS does not have a liquid to liquid cooler like the 1LE.
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Old 06-17-2013, 05:42 PM   #14
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No it doesn't. The engine oil cooler is standard but the standard manual trans on the SS does not have a liquid to liquid cooler like the 1LE.
Right...

"The Tremec TR6060-MM6 short-throw six-speed manual employs a sportier 3.91:1 final drive rather than the normal 3.45:1. Like in the ZL1, crisp shifts are had row after row, thanks to an air-to-liquid cooling system."

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz2WVo3QPWK
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Old 06-17-2013, 07:41 PM   #15
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But the Z06 has the LS7 correct? And doesn't GM rate that for 505hp? So it should be able to handle 565-575hp from a supercharger as long as I don't BEAT THE LIVING SH*T out of it (and I don't plan to).

BTW I did buy it and it looks KILLER!!!! Pictures tomorrow hopefully.
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Old 06-17-2013, 08:03 PM   #16
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Here is the complete list of changes for the 1le
  • close ratio manual transmission that has higher final drive (3.91 vs. 3.45)
  • air-to-liquid cooling system lifted from the ZL1 (trans and oil coolers)
  • 20-inch wheels covered in Goodyear Eagle Supercar G:2 tires, 285 on all 4 corners
  • Improved wheel bearings (zl1)
  • Improved toe links
  • upgraded sub-frame bushes
  • Better rear shock mounts
  • rear monotube shocks
  • thicker antiroll bars(27mm front, 28mm rear)
  • strut-tower bar
  • beefed up the rear-axle half-shafts
  • ZL1's high-capacity fuel pump and additional fuel pickups were also added to prevent fuel starvation in hard-cornering situations.
  • matte-black hood
  • functional front splitter
  • rear spoiler
  • Oil catch can
  • red Brembo brake calipers
  • ZL1's flat-bottom, microfiber-covered steering wheel
  • short shifter topped with a microfiber shift knob.

What beefed up axles shafts really are is anyone's guess, sounds like bannonm, measured them?
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Old 06-17-2013, 08:24 PM   #17
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I thought it had front monotube shocks too?
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:19 PM   #18
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No, fronts shocks are retuned stockers.
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:17 AM   #19
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I think both cars have the MM6. I do believe they are the same.
I'm just saying that they might have the same gear ratios and so on but are not the exact same transmission.
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Old 06-19-2013, 09:07 AM   #20
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I'm just saying that they might have the same gear ratios and so on but are not the exact same transmission.
And what I am saying is that the two transmissions have the exact same part number, and thus I am saying they are the same part. Why are you saying they are not?
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Old 06-19-2013, 09:52 PM   #21
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They're the same. Tremec MM6
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Old 06-20-2013, 12:24 AM   #22
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This happens a lot... don't bother.
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Old 06-20-2013, 08:03 AM   #23
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Here is the complete list of changes for the 1le

What beefed up axles shafts really are is anyone's guess, sounds like bannonm, measured them?
I was under the impression they were ZL1
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Old 06-20-2013, 08:56 AM   #24
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They're the same. Tremec MM6
Well except for shift rod placement, reverse lockout solenoid location, bellhousing, tailshaft housing or lack there of, vent location. So in other words they're not the same and you cannot use one or the other as they're Camaro or Corvette specific.
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Old 06-20-2013, 08:57 AM   #25
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And what I am saying is that the two transmissions have the exact same part number, and thus I am saying they are the same part. Why are you saying they are not?
Transmisson model number and RPO code designation are far from being the same part number.
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