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Old 06-20-2013, 07:58 AM   #26
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This happens a lot... don't bother.
Yep it's amazing how many people think they know it all because they read about in in the owners manual or on a website. Which is why so many of you get your panties in a bind when someone tells you the truth. It's one thing to make comments like this when I'm wrong but like the other debates I'm not. Given the tire debate was opinionated this is quite different as the two transmissions are not one in the same, period.

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Old 06-20-2013, 11:20 AM   #27
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Transmisson model number and RPO code designation are far from being the same part number.
Well since it is always fun to learn, and I by no means have my panties in any type of a wad, what are the two part numbers? It might be useful to know if finding a replacement transmission for the Camaro ever comes into play.
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:30 AM   #28
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I was under the impression they were ZL1
No, they are 1LE specific. They do share the same bearings tho...although I have been known to be wrong at least once or twice lol

EDIT: This thread covers it...AXLE wise

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Old 06-20-2013, 12:51 PM   #29
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Well since it is always fun to learn, and I by no means have my panties in any type of a wad, what are the two part numbers? It might be useful to know if finding a replacement transmission for the Camaro ever comes into play.
It doesn't matter what the actual part numbers are as they aren't interchangeable.
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Old 06-20-2013, 12:58 PM   #30
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We understand the Camaro and Corvette bolt up differently, but the core transmission is the same. You're arguing semantics.
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Old 06-20-2013, 01:18 PM   #31
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It doesn't matter what the actual part numbers are as they aren't interchangeable.
It does. Lets say I found a great deal on a used MM6. It would be nice to know what the correct part number was for the 1LE vs the Vette. You seem to have that information. I am simply asking for the part numbers that you have so I can know for future reference. I was not able to find anything on line that gave the part numbers.
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Old 06-20-2013, 04:14 PM   #32
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We understand the Camaro and Corvette bolt up differently, but the core transmission is the same. You're arguing semantics.
I'm not arguing anything, you guys said they were the same thing and they aren't.
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Old 06-20-2013, 04:19 PM   #33
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It does. Lets say I found a great deal on a used MM6. It would be nice to know what the correct part number was for the 1LE vs the Vette. You seem to have that information. I am simply asking for the part numbers that you have so I can know for future reference. I was not able to find anything on line that gave the part numbers.
You can tell by looking at them.

Camaro = Side mounted reverse lockout solenoid with shifter point on top.
Vette = Top mounted reverse lockout solenoid with shifter in bellhousing

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Old 06-20-2013, 04:28 PM   #34
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We understand the Camaro and Corvette bolt up differently, but the core transmission is the same. You're STILL arguing semantics.
See above.
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Old 06-20-2013, 04:46 PM   #35
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No it doesn't. The engine oil cooler is standard but the standard manual trans on the SS does not have a liquid to liquid cooler like the 1LE.
Yes it does. I've had to disconnect mine twice. Once when I replaced my clutch. And once when I pulled the motor. Hell three times, also when I first put in a cam.
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Old 06-20-2013, 06:11 PM   #36
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several wrong points on here.......

1le has the same Trans as ZL1, with closer gear ratios, and a higher final drive of 3.91 vs. the SS of 3.51
as well as the half shafts, toelinks, and wheel bearings straight from the zl1.

other parts include
-flat bottom "suede" steering wheel, shift knob/shift boot
- 28mm mono tube in the rear, 27mm in the front
-brembo 4-piston braking system with 26" and 24" rotors
-rims/tires/hoodwrap, front splitter, spoiler (duh)
-upgraded fuel pump based off of the Zl1's

i BELEIVE that is a complete list. could be missing
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Old 06-20-2013, 06:12 PM   #37
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Yes it does. I've had to disconnect mine twice. Once when I replaced my clutch. And once when I pulled the motor. Hell three times, also when I first put in a cam.
the 1LE is an "Air-Liquid" system instead as thought to be more efficient, which is why it is the same as used in the ZL1

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Old 06-20-2013, 06:20 PM   #38
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several wrong points on here.......

1le has the same Trans as ZL1, with closer gear ratios, and a higher final drive of 3.91 vs. the SS of 3.51
That's the first time I've heard that it is a ZL1 tranny with different ratios. Isn't it a 3.45 final drive in the SS?
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Old 06-20-2013, 06:29 PM   #39
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im fairly sure its 3.51, but im no savant
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Old 06-20-2013, 06:54 PM   #40
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im fairly sure its 3.51, but im no savant
Yes, but when stating information it's good to ensure its accuracy.
You know to ensure everything on the Internet is "true".
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Old 06-20-2013, 07:23 PM   #41
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well i read in several different places it was 3.51.

but iv also read the 0-60 on a 1LE is only 4.7. which is hogwash
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Old 06-20-2013, 09:26 PM   #42
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See the link to the pdf found in this post. It has all the specs on gearing between the 1LE and the SS.

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Old 06-20-2013, 09:28 PM   #43
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well i read in several different places it was 3.51.

but iv also read the 0-60 on a 1LE is only 4.7. which is hogwash
The SS comes with a 3:45 rear axle ratio. The 1LE has a 3.91 rear gear ratio.
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Old 06-21-2013, 07:32 AM   #44
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several wrong points on here.......

1le has the same Trans as ZL1, with closer gear ratios, and a higher final drive of 3.91 vs. the SS of 3.51
as well as the half shafts, toelinks, and wheel bearings straight from the zl1.

other parts include
-flat bottom "suede" steering wheel, shift knob/shift boot
- 28mm mono tube in the rear, 27mm in the front
-brembo 4-piston braking system with 26" and 24" rotors
-rims/tires/hoodwrap, front splitter, spoiler (duh)
-upgraded fuel pump based off of the Zl1's

i BELEIVE that is a complete list. could be missing
All three versions SS/1LE/ZL1 use a TR-6060.
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Old 06-21-2013, 07:32 AM   #45
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See above.
You're wrong so quit trying to veer the discussion in your favor.
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Old 06-21-2013, 08:47 AM   #46
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Yep it's amazing how many people think they know it all because they read about in in the owners manual or on a website. Which is why so many of you get your panties in a bind when someone tells you the truth. It's one thing to make comments like this when I'm wrong but like the other debates I'm not. Given the tire debate was opinionated this is quite different as the two transmissions are not one in the same, period.
May be sorry for this.... No two things are one in the same. Also you are more interested in proving a point then in sharing information.

The transmission used in the 1LE package had the same gearing as the Z06 and is the same version MN6... It does have a different configuration. It has way more in common with the Z06 than with the the OEM SS.

See that is far more accurate than all your facts to prove a point. Wish members wouldn't get so personal... that is what my 'don't bother' was about.... peace.

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the 1LE is an "Air-Liquid" system instead as thought to be more efficient, which is why it is the same as used in the ZL1
So what exactly is an "air-liquid" system?
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You're wrong so quit trying to veer the discussion in your favor.
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May be sorry for this.... No two things are one in the same. Also you are more interested in proving a point then in sharing information.

The transmission used in the 1LE package had the same gearing as the Z06 and is the same version MN6... It does have a different configuration. It has way more in common with the Z06 than with the the OEM SS.

See that is far more accurate than all your facts to prove a point. Wish members wouldn't get so personal... that is what my 'don't bother' was about.... peace.

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Old 06-21-2013, 09:28 PM   #49
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May be sorry for this.... No two things are one in the same. Also you are more interested in proving a point then in sharing information.

The transmission used in the 1LE package had the same gearing as the Z06 and is the same version MN6... It does have a different configuration. It has way more in common with the Z06 than with the the OEM SS.

See that is far more accurate than all your facts to prove a point. Wish members wouldn't get so personal... that is what my 'don't bother' was about.... peace.

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I'm pretty sure saying they weren't the same is all I said until you made your comment. And there's nothing personal about stating what makes them different. It's not the same as a Z06 transmission, isn't closer to it than a SS TR-6060 or anything all that special. It really is just your standard TR-6060 with different gear ratios.
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Old 06-21-2013, 09:49 PM   #50
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I'm pretty sure saying they weren't the same is all I said until you made your comment. And there's nothing personal about stating what makes them different. It's not the same as a Z06 transmission, isn't closer to it than a SS TR-6060 or anything all that special. It really is just your standard TR-6060 with different gear ratios.
All you do is trash the 1LE dude. We love the jealousy
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