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Old 06-18-2013, 01:06 PM   #1
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2013 Camaro SS 1LE vs 2013 370Z

Found this interesting article/blog today:

http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoram...155001648.html
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:05 PM   #2
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The 370Z is quite impressive all things considered. It corners well and accelerates really well. But the SS is too much for it. In stock and modified trim. The Z comes from the factory almost peaked out. The factory exhaust manifolds are basically ST headers. And the intake is basically a cold air intake. Their cold air intakes cost way more than ours and offer little gains. And the same with aftermarket headers. They have nowhere near the available upgrades we have. Given the same mods, the SS will increase the gap it already has in the quarter mile. And a roll-on will totally destroy them. The Z can only compete stock vs stock in the quarter mile. And it still loses.
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Old 06-21-2013, 12:58 PM   #3
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Why straight line race two cars intended for corners?

Take them to a big power road course and then to a parking lot tight cone course and see the differences.
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Old 06-21-2013, 04:59 PM   #4
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To me, it's pretty stupid to compare these two. The 1LE is in a different class of performance all together. Why has nobody compared the 1LE to the M3 with the Competition Package yet? People were going all gaa gaa for the Mustang vs. M3 comparison. The 1LE would decimate it. Best bang for the buck under $70k right now I think.
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Old 06-23-2013, 08:52 PM   #5
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To me, it's pretty stupid to compare these two. The 1LE is in a different class of performance all together. Why has nobody compared the 1LE to the M3 with the Competition Package yet? People were going all gaa gaa for the Mustang vs. M3 comparison. The 1LE would decimate it. Best bang for the buck under $70k right now I think.
I'm not so sure that the 1LE would decimate an M3 with comp pkg. M3 in the Mustang comparison was a non-comp pkg version with M/T instead of the DCT. The track was also much more conducive to the strengths of the Mustang (and the M3 still edged it out).

It would be an interesting comparison nonetheless.
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Old 06-23-2013, 11:32 PM   #6
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I'm not so sure that the 1LE would decimate an M3 with comp pkg. M3 in the Mustang comparison was a non-comp pkg version with M/T instead of the DCT. The track was also much more conducive to the strengths of the Mustang (and the M3 still edged it out).

It would be an interesting comparison nonetheless.
The M3 vs. GT comparison did have the competition package, but it was a m6 car. I think with all the off camber turns and tight corners, as well as crests, the better shocked/valved and sprung car with IRS would have an advantage, which when hearing RP's comments, the M3 did. It was much easier to control and felt more confident. It only beat the GT by .1 of a second. The 1LE would have no issue destroying it.
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Old 06-25-2013, 12:47 AM   #7
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The M3 vs. GT comparison did have the competition package, but it was a m6 car. I think with all the off camber turns and tight corners, as well as crests, the better shocked/valved and sprung car with IRS would have an advantage, which when hearing RP's comments, the M3 did. It was much easier to control and felt more confident. It only beat the GT by .1 of a second. The 1LE would have no issue destroying it.
The M3 is kind of out dated, i have one. But like the looks and luxury side plus the performance of the car.

there is nothing to crazy for a well equipped pony cars to give it a run for its money. I feel like the M cars are more for pulling puss*y if anything these days. rofl....
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Old 06-25-2013, 09:22 AM   #8
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M cars are more for pulling puss*y if anything these days. rofl....
lol nothing wrong with that!
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Old 06-26-2013, 02:31 AM   #10
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The 7at 370z's hang right with the L99s at the track no problem. Hell my 5at G35 has little issues hanging with them, you are talking about a 370z that's 400 lbs lighter then mine with 30 or so more whp and 2 more gears. You have seen how my car runs against L99's at the track, just use your imagination.



I would say a 370z 7at would take an L99 at the track with average driver in both. Tune really wakes up the Camaro though


See. A 370z is basically my car with a 75 shot(to match it's power to weigh ratio), just imagine.





I own a 400+ whp 4th gen LS1 Camaro, so don't go saying I somehow think the g35 is "fast". People just underestimate the 370z and other vq powered cars. Automatically assume the car with bigger engine will somehow be faster, just because of the extra displacement. It's like funny 2v mustang owners thinking they would beat my accord because it was 150% the displacement.

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Old 06-26-2013, 02:49 AM   #11
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My very first run in was with a 370 nizmo and it jumped me every time but I would reel it in. Now that I know my car I would like to meet back up with it. ......
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The 7at 370z's hang right with the L99s at the track no problem. Hell my 5at G35 has little issues hanging with them, you are talking about a 370z that's 400 lbs lighter then mine with 30 or so more whp and 2 more gears. You have seen how my car runs against L99's at the track, just use your imagination.



I would say a 370z 7at would take an L99 at the track with average driver in both. Tune really wakes up the Camaro though


See. A 370z is basically my car with a 75 shot(to match it's power to weigh ratio), just imagine.





I own a 400+ whp 4th gen LS1 Camaro, so don't go saying I somehow think the g35 is "fast". People just underestimate the 370z and other vq powered cars. Automatically assume the car with bigger engine will somehow be faster, just because of the extra displacement. It's like funny 2v mustang owners thinking they would beat my accord because it was 150% the displacement.
Youre always making this silly comparison with AUTO CAMARO vs G35/370. LS3 is a different story. Always easy to compare to the slower one heh?

Pre 2013 Auto L99 Camaro are slow. Go againsnt a LS3 next time.

And your nitrous argument is a fail; 75 shot is probably 125tq. No this 370Z engine is not making that much torque.
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The 7at 370z's hang right with the L99s at the track no problem. Hell my 5at G35 has little issues hanging with them, you are talking about a 370z that's 400 lbs lighter then mine with 30 or so more whp and 2 more gears. You have seen how my car runs against L99's at the track, just use your imagination.



I would say a 370z 7at would take an L99 at the track with average driver in both. Tune really wakes up the Camaro though


See. A 370z is basically my car with a 75 shot(to match it's power to weigh ratio), just imagine.


I own a 400+ whp 4th gen LS1 Camaro, so don't go saying I somehow think the g35 is "fast". People just underestimate the 370z and other vq powered cars. Automatically assume the car with bigger engine will somehow be faster, just because of the extra displacement. It's like funny 2v mustang owners thinking they would beat my accord because it was 150% the displacement.
2V Mustang guys didn't think they could beat your Accord because of displacement...they thought they could beat your Accord because the Accord is slow as hell. If yours was fast then it was a sleeper. And stock to stock, the 370Z can hold it's own against an SS. But they will still lose. And on a roll on the SS will destroy them pretty easily. Give them more mods and of course they will win. But with similar mods, the SS will widen the gap. In fact, the 370Z has basically no aftermarket. Even on their forums they complain that their intakes don't make any power, their headers are super expensive and super difficult to install and offer insignificant gains, their cams cost like a thousand dollars, and so on. I'll give them credit, they are fast if you go from 0-1/4 mile. But they have nowhere near the overwhelming power and torque we have.
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370z 7at's normally do low-mid 12's with intake/full exhaust and tune. That's really not too far off the pace of most 5th gens..
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