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Old 02-25-2015, 09:51 AM   #1
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LS7 1LE

Would you have gotten your 1LE with the LS7 if it was a $5K option? I know I would've, mine would be a 1SS, 1LE, Recaros, and LS7 it'd only be around $45K MSRP. Too bad GM didn't do that, I guess I have to keep building the LS3 then.
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Old 02-25-2015, 10:08 AM   #2
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Of course!!

As yesterdays thread about this discussed, it would likely not be possible at such a low additional cost, but we can dream.
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Old 02-25-2015, 10:25 AM   #3
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too many worries

The LS7 is a monster. I had one in my 2009 C6 Z06, and it was the fastest car I most likely ever owned. My only worry was there are, and still is, an issue with the valve guides prematurely wearing, eventually causing a intake valve to drop into the combustion chamber. Since everything is aluminum on this engine, it usually blows out a cylinder liner, breaking the block... causing the entire engine to be a complete right off. While under warranty I was worried, but knew I was covered as long as I didnt modify it. After the drive train warranty ended, I sold the car. The crate engines are $15K. There are a lot of threads covering this known issue, both in the Z28, and C6 forum. Guess if you want to play, you have to pay. It was just too much money for me to worry about, cause if the engine went the car would have been worthless w/o the replacement engine.
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Old 02-25-2015, 10:27 AM   #4
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seeing that the LS7 crate motor is $15k from GM performance parts it would still be a cool option.

GM really needs to offer the A6 for the 1LE.
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Old 02-25-2015, 10:50 AM   #5
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Even a dry sump LS3 with a few more ponies would have been a nice option!
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Old 02-25-2015, 10:52 AM   #6
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I saw this exact set up last time I was out at the Street of Willow race track. That 1LE was a fast mofo and sounded great around the track.

I have no idea how much he paid to have the LS7 put into his 1LE.
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Old 02-25-2015, 11:03 AM   #7
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seeing that the LS7 crate motor is $15k from GM performance parts it would still be a cool option.

GM really needs to offer the A6 for the 1LE.
Do you mean A8 like the Corvette or a 6 speed version for the Camaro.
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Old 02-25-2015, 11:04 AM   #8
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A8 is not available in the current Camaro.
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Old 02-25-2015, 11:11 AM   #9
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A8 is not available in the current Camaro.
I know. So you are asking for a 6 speed version with the features of the Corvettes A8?
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Old 02-25-2015, 11:12 AM   #10
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For the current model year but moving forward to the 6th Gen A8 yes.
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Old 02-25-2015, 11:23 AM   #11
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Wait.....you are saying you want an automatic track car?
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Old 02-25-2015, 12:28 PM   #12
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Sure ,im in for that . AT THE RISK OF GETTING FLAMED , what about a duel clutch like the PDK and a LT version of the 427 with no valve problems ? Or a Twin turbo LT.
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Old 02-25-2015, 12:42 PM   #13
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Wait.....you are saying you want an automatic track car?
As it sits right now, the A8 Vette is faster than the manual Vette. Like it or not, that is the facts at this point. And a dual clutch deal is nothing to sneeze at either. No one at the Rolex 24 at Daytona this year was using a manual clutch.....those were some pretty nice track cars!
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Old 02-25-2015, 01:22 PM   #14
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My car is a DD, the LS7 have a valve guild wear problem . I would only get a LS7 motor car that a toy car you dive on the week ends only.
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Old 02-25-2015, 02:11 PM   #15
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As it sits right now, the A8 Vette is faster than the manual Vette. Like it or not, that is the facts at this point. And a dual clutch deal is nothing to sneeze at either. No one at the Rolex 24 at Daytona this year was using a manual clutch.....those were some pretty nice track cars!
LOL...ok.....but we are on a Camaro forum and NONE of those things are available to us.

With that said, this is still interesting and glad you brought it up.

I was not aware they tested the manual and auto C7 at the race track. Where did you see that?
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Old 02-25-2015, 02:34 PM   #16
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LOL...ok.....but we are on a Camaro forum and NONE of those things are available to us.

With that said, this is still interesting and glad you brought it up.

I was not aware they tested the manual and auto C7 at the race track. Where did you see that?
You commented on my conversation with 01pewterz28, and his request for an auto in a 1LE. I have read it a few places, but this Motor Trend link kind of sums it all up:

http://www.motortrend.com/features/m...nsmission.html

If I see more I will post.
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Old 02-25-2015, 02:50 PM   #17
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lol, a poll included...
LS7 would be great but GM seems hell bent on a 20 - 40k bump across the entire fleet when you want any premium engine upgrade included. You can get in but you have to pad the generals pocket.
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GM really needs to offer the A6 for the 1LE.
That's absurd.
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Old 02-25-2015, 02:54 PM   #19
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I think I could get 505HP if I spend $5000, couldn't I
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I often think about doing this too, I do not think it would be difficult. What REALLY makes me think about doing this is there was a 2010 Z06 at an auction that was hit REALLY REALLY hard in the rear, ie nothing left, not really worth anything to part out. It had unknown miles and sold for $6100.00. Damn. I should have raised my hand, I could of done the swap for FREE (after selling my engine and doing labor myself)....If I had the chance again, I would do it. I would have a track car that I would NEVER sell. I would have to fix the valve guide issue though.
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what about a duel clutch


A "duel clutch" is when two people attack each other with clutches.

A "dual clutch" is a transmission with two clutches that allow for significantly faster gear changes.

And no, if it doesn't have 3 pedals, its an automatic. Anybody can flick a paddle, it takes real skill to operate 3 pedals at speed.





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You commented on my conversation with 01pewterz28, and his request for an auto in a 1LE. I have read it a few places, but this Motor Trend link kind of sums it all up:

http://www.motortrend.com/features/m...nsmission.html

If I see more I will post.
Awesome! Thanks a lot for sharing this.

Previously I was just asking if Pewter was saying he wanted a auto 1LE as an actual track car, or would just like the 1LE in auto as it is also just a great handling DD(those are my words).
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As it sits right now, the A8 Vette is faster than the manual Vette. Like it or not, that is the facts at this point. And a dual clutch deal is nothing to sneeze at either. No one at the Rolex 24 at Daytona this year was using a manual clutch.....those were some pretty nice track cars!
Being faster doesn't make it a better track car. It doesn't make it a better drivers car. These are street cars and or track-day cars. No one is buying these things to actually go racing (there is a big difference between HPDE and racing).

If Chevy wants to offer a flappy paddle gearbox on the racing versions of their sports cars a la Porsche's racing program, by all means do it GM. But for street cars, it's about the driving experience. And nothing ruins the driving experience quite as much as taking the left most pedal away:

http://www.porsche.com/usa/eventsand...ng/racingcars/
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I think I could get 505HP if I spend $5000, couldn't I
Yes, but not 500 torque. Also as mentioned is where in the RPM range the LS7 produces power. A lot of these 500+ rwhp engines are getting to 500 in an RPM range that is not always 'available' at the track.
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Yes, but not 500 torque. Also as mentioned is where in the RPM range the LS7 produces power. A lot of these 500+ rwhp engines are getting to 500 in an RPM range that is not always 'available' at the track.
I agree that 500HP out of a 6.2L simply won't have the same grunt as 500HP out of 7.0L, and personally, if I had the choice between a 500HP 6.2L LS3 and a 500HP LS7, I'd pick the LS7 each and every time. But don't forget that for around $5K you can turn an LS3 into a 427ci mill that will have more area under the curve than the LS7 and will NOT have valve guide issues.

I'd likely take that route myself. The real benefit to the factory offering it though is not just the power, but the accompanying upgrades that go with it. (rear end, axles, trans, etc).
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