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Old 01-02-2015, 02:15 PM   #1
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Hawk high performance street race pads

http://www.hawkperformance.com/perfo...ce-street-race

Does anyone have any information on the performance of these new pads from Hawk? I'm looking to change my pads to something with more fade resistance (in addition to ss brake lines and dot 4 fluid). I'm looking to keep them on full time and not have to change between my stock brembos and a racing pad.

Note: these are not the HPS pads they carry.

http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brake...utoModClar=1LE

The only place i can currently find them listed is Tirerack, but only the front pads are listed.

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Old 01-02-2015, 02:52 PM   #2
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I had the box in yellow performance ceramic on my v6 and they were great was very happy with the quality feel and sound. I say go for it!
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Old 01-03-2015, 01:26 PM   #3
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When I upgraded my brake pads/lines/fluid, Tyler at JDPmotorsports led me to the Hawk HP+ pads all around.
Am I ever glad they did. I use them for street and autocross.
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Old 01-03-2015, 03:26 PM   #4
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Looks like noone has tried them yet (and other pads from Hawk do not really represent this product), but I'm sure we'll see users reporting in by the time track season heats up.

This lools like an exciting product. Before this, Hawk did not have anything with good fade resistance, which is also good for street. Looking forward to hearing more about it. I'm especially wondering about its bite.
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Looks like noone has tried them yet (and other pads from Hawk do not really represent this product), but I'm sure we'll see users reporting in by the time track season heats up.

This lools like an exciting product. Before this, Hawk did not have anything with good fade resistance, which is also good for street. Looking forward to hearing more about it. I'm especially wondering about its bite.
Actually the Hawk 9012 pad blues are good with fade resistance to a point. HP+ are crap. I had blues on my car last year and they are good but the rotor eaters suck in rain and winter, will rust your car for sure if used daily. I now have these Street/race pads. The have stronger torque than the 9012 blues but instead of eating rotors they wear more than blues leaving black carbon dust on the rims. Both of these pads are superior to the HPS and HP+ by far. These are a more streetable HT10 pad basically and don't squeal as much if at all.
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I read the race street pads are the same compound as the DCT-30 except they have some new features to help keep them quiet on the road.
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Old 01-11-2015, 01:12 PM   #7
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I read the race street pads are the same compound as the DCT-30 except they have some new features to help keep them quiet on the road.
Hawk tech told me they were based on the HT-10 compound.
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Great info thank you! Looks like I will be buying some of these. Would keeping stock pads on the rear work if I only put these on the front?
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Hawk tech told me they were based on the HT-10 compound.
I read that on the hawk website, they even have a graph for temp ranges and the DCT30 and these new pads shair the same line which is labeled dct30/race street.
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I was having trouble finding it but you can See the graph here
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2681466
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Old 01-12-2015, 11:25 AM   #11
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toe - thanks for posting a link to those curves. Although I'm not currently running Hawk pads, it does give me some basis for comparison to what I am running.


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Old 01-12-2015, 12:16 PM   #12
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I did this upgrade on my V6 a while.

SS Brembos
Stainless Steel brake lines
Hawk HPS pads.

Everything worked great but be aware at the track these Hawks pads generate a lot more heat. Plan on brake cooling ducts or just keep on eye on your OEM rotors as they will get 100F+ hotter than using the OEM pads.
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HPS is all done by 800°F and isn't by any stretch a track pad. You may, with careful use and conscious, diligent consideration for their limitations, get away with them very early in your track experience, but you'll outgrow them very, very quickly. I wouldn't even want to predict whether you'd wear them out or fade them to the point of worthlessness first.


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Old 01-12-2015, 03:59 PM   #14
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I just sent email to Hawk asking how these are different from the DTC-30's. I have the DTC-30's and recently took them off as they are *really* noisy for the street. They are awesome for the track and fell in love with them but felt like they were just too much even after renewing the lube after burning it off on the track.


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I have the DTC-30's and recently took them off as they are *really* noisy for the street.
Serious question. How much intentionally hard braking do you include in your street driving? I realize that this is somewhat traffic-dependent, but do you get any opportunities to use the brakes harder than the average driver in his average commuter car? Do you take advantage of them?


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Serious question. How much intentionally hard braking do you include in your street driving? I realize that this is somewhat traffic-dependent, but do you get any opportunities to use the brakes harder than the average driver in his average commuter car? Do you take advantage of them?


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I get where you are going. I was looking for something more serious mostly for autox but I do some limited track time and I definitely work the brakes hard there. On a recommendation I went with DTC-30 up front and HP+ in the rear.

I really didn't want to play the pads swap game every time I compete.

BTW... just got a reply from Hawk...

They are chamfered, and have weights and springs. Reducing the noise created from a motorsports compound.
It is the most aggressive street compound available today and a first of its kind.

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On Jan 12, 2015 1:26 PM, "Hawk Performance" <perry@canyondatasolutions.com> wrote:
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I just read about your Performance Street Race Pads. How are these different

from DTC-30's?



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Old 01-21-2015, 03:13 PM   #17
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I am upgrading to the new Hawk Street-Race pads today and I'm also getting the clutch fluid bled/replaced with Motul RBF600 and I will report back here once I've had a chance to test them out for a few days. I have had no other pads on this car yet, so I have no other pads to compare them to other than the stock ones. (Which by the way, worked fine for me up until my last track day when I noticed I was over-driving them a bit.) The stock ones were squealing on the street.

What qualities would you like me to report back on other than:
Noise - do they squeal after they are heated up
Streetability (stopping under normal traffic conditions)
wear
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track performance

Anything I'm missing??

Edit: I'm only getting the fronts. The rears have PLENTY of material left (they look new)
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I am putting Carbotech's on today, and going to Laguna on Sunday, I will let you know how these work out. I have not heard a lot of positives with hawk as of late...
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I am upgrading to the new Hawk Street-Race pads today and I'm also getting the clutch fluid bled/replaced with Motul RBF600 and I will report back here once I've had a chance to test them out for a few days. I have had no other pads on this car yet, so I have no other pads to compare them to other than the stock ones. (Which by the way, worked fine for me up until my last track day when I noticed I was over-driving them a bit.) The stock ones were squealing on the street.

What qualities would you like me to report back on other than:
Noise - do they squeal after they are heated up
Streetability (stopping under normal traffic conditions)
wear
dust
track performance

Anything I'm missing??

Edit: I'm only getting the fronts. The rears have PLENTY of material left (they look new)
Noise - you might really be more interested in noise in street driving before you get them heated up. If you get any, you may find that occasionally using the brakes hard (as traffic permits) keeps the noise down.

Streetability - how good do they 'bite' when they're cold, as in the first one or two stops on a cool morning.


You should be OK with different pad compounds front vs rear, but be aware that the ABS may act differently/unexpectedly if there's much difference either in the coefficients of friction or in the 'cold bite'.


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For Autocross/Street these pads will work well, as well as for some light track duty, but for the heavy camaro and those SERIOUS about tracking, you're just going to have to face the fact that you NEED a dedicated track pad. There is no middle ground that will be quiet on the street and hold up good to serious abuse.

The DTC-30/HP+ combo is the best option we have found next to OEM, but the harder drivers will outgrow them.

I think the next hot Hawk setup for Camaros will be the new DTC-50's with DTC-30s in the rear, but again; they'll be dusty and noisy if you try to run them on the street...it's just the nature of the beast.

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On a related note, has anyone had fade reduced by simply adding cooling ducts?
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On a related note, has anyone had fade reduced by simply adding cooling ducts?
I never tried the car without the cooling ducts, but the brand new XR1 pads started fading despite having the cooling ducts (and Motul RBF 600) at Oregon Raceway Park. In fairness, I might not have bled the brakes after the track day I had the week before (with ST43s) at the same track, so it might just be the fluid that caused the issue; I'm just not sure.

I switched to StopTech ST60 BBK with ST43s next time; no issues since then.
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I had some further communication with Hawk regarding these pads...

To Hawk..
That's good news.

FYI... I have been running DTC-30s up front and HP+ on the rears. I *love* 'em on the track but they are *way* too noisy for the street. Looks like I should try the HPS/R's!

Thanks to both of you.

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Dear Perry,

The noise on our High Performance Street/Race pads maybe similar to HP Plus and DTC-30. They are quiet on my Toyota and on my friends Honda S2000, but so far, on Corvettes (C7 and C6) they are noisy. If you’re looking for quiet pads, I recommend our newly release HPS 5.0 (street) pads. They are best street pad in the market. They will be quiet.
So it sounds like they still may not be very street-friendly.
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So it sounds like they still may not be very street-friendly.
Hawk supposedly tuned these pads to be more "streetable" but still take the abuse of track use. Since my stockers were already noisy, I'm not as concerned about that as I am being better at late-braking at the track.

I have these new Hawk pads on now (they did both fronts and rears, even though I only wanted the fronts done.) I heard a small bit of squeal going less than say 25 mph so far, but it's very minimal... that may (and probably will) change as I get some more use into them. can't wait to get to the track and test them out!
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Hawk supposedly tuned these pads to be more "streetable" but still take the abuse of track use. Since my stockers were already noisy, I'm not as concerned about that as I am being better at late-braking at the track.

I have these new Hawk pads on now (they did both fronts and rears, even though I only wanted the fronts done.) I heard a small bit of squeal going less than say 25 mph so far, but it's very minimal... that may (and probably will) change as I get some more use into them. can't wait to get to the track and test them out!
In my experience, it is the rear brakes that do most of the noise. This has been the case on both of my Brembo cars (EvoX, Camaro SS 1LE).
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