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Old 06-24-2013, 06:11 PM   #51
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Old 06-24-2013, 07:40 PM   #52
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Going off my personal experience no. Not even close to Japanese cars of 10 years ago. Quality, craftsmanship, or quality of service. GM just plain sucks. Do they make cool looking crap?? Yes they do but it's still crap.


If GM sucks, why do you own a Camaro? I'm sure it sucks just like every other product GM makes. After all GM sucks.
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Old 06-24-2013, 08:10 PM   #53
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Old 06-24-2013, 09:30 PM   #54
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If GM sucks, why do you own a Camaro? I'm sure it sucks just like every other product GM makes. After all GM sucks.
I did. And I had problems with it starting day number 3. Transmission, engine, steering and electrical. And it took over a month and 3 dealers and it still wasn't fixed right. And one dealer had it 2 weeks and told me GM refused to get me a rental because the repair was gonna take over a week. Also it had to go back twice for body and paint repair from 1 dealer running into a lift with it and another hitting the lift with the door.
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Old 06-25-2013, 02:48 PM   #55
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I did. And I had problems with it starting day number 3. Transmission, engine, steering and electrical. And it took over a month and 3 dealers and it still wasn't fixed right. And one dealer had it 2 weeks and told me GM refused to get me a rental because the repair was gonna take over a week. Also it had to go back twice for body and paint repair from 1 dealer running into a lift with it and another hitting the lift with the door.
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Unfortunately, it seems many dealers don't act like the ambassador of the brand the way GM (and we) would like them to.
Did you complain directly to GM yourself?
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:11 AM   #56
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Unfortunately, it seems many dealers don't act like the ambassador of the brand the way GM (and we) would like them to.
Did you complain directly to GM yourself?
Oh yea. Many times. I was always told that the dealer has the final word. The car was towed in because the clutch pedal was stuck halfway up. The car been in for a slipping clutch/sticking pedal twice before. I kept getting told it was fine. When they say the blued flywheel they insisted I road raced the car. That is the only way the flywheel would get blued from heat. Not from the slipping clutch that I complained about. Only road racing causes a blued flywheel according to the head service writer at Doyle Chevy in Webster ny. The absolute worst dealer in the history of cars
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:25 AM   #57
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I'm surprised Jaguar made it that high on the list
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Old 06-26-2013, 10:24 AM   #58
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Oh yea. Many times. I was always told that the dealer has the final word. The car was towed in because the clutch pedal was stuck halfway up. The car been in for a slipping clutch/sticking pedal twice before. I kept getting told it was fine. When they say the blued flywheel they insisted I road raced the car. That is the only way the flywheel would get blued from heat. Not from the slipping clutch that I complained about. Only road racing causes a blued flywheel according to the head service writer at Doyle Chevy in Webster ny. The absolute worst dealer in the history of cars
Got one better, brother took his Cadillac in because he had a horrible miss in the engine, still under powertrain warranty mind you. Their diagnosis? A tire out of balance..... WTF? Ended up being a bad plug coil. Oh, then they charged him 80 dollars for checking it out! his wife went back on them, and well, they refunded that, but they are banned from that dealership which is totally ubsurd (Pops Chevrolet in Prestonsburg Ky BTW). And yes, he tried calling customer service and got the same thing about dealers always being in the right and they actually told him that if put in a complaint on a dealership they could get in trouble and this was a damned SUPERVISOR! GM customer service is about as useless as tits on a warthog. The sad part is, he loves that car and said he even understands he could have just gotten a horrible example, but the reason he will never again consider another GM car is because of the treatment he got from 2 different GM dealerships and Customer Service.
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:56 PM   #59
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I'm surprised Jaguar made it that high on the list
They still owned by ford?
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:03 PM   #60
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Newp, pretty sure they are owned by either an Indian or Chinese Company for the last few years.
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:39 PM   #61
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Great news. We have owned nothing but GM, both good and bad.

We still have:

'98 S10 - Mediocre at best, never was impressed with this truck. WILL NOT DIE though.
-'06 Equinox - A little cheesy but has been dead nuts reliable. Changed one hub assembly and all the shocks and struts since we got it 4-5 years ago. Nothing but oil changes, tires, and brakes otherwise. Not a bad people hauler.
-93 C1500 - Can't comment here. It's still all GM but its my FrankenTruck project.
-12 Camaro - No issues to date since buying it new 14 months ago.

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-05 Silverado. I owned this one for two years. Replaced a hub assembly, two airbag sensors, evap solenoid, and all the motors in the gauge cluster. All common issues of that model truck. Was still very pleased with it.
-05 Trailblazer 4WD. No issues in the couple years we had it until my mother slung it off into the woods on the interstate. Held up very well for what it hit on the way.
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Old 06-29-2013, 10:22 PM   #62
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Newp, pretty sure they are owned by either an Indian or Chinese Company for the last few years.
Indian, Tata Motors. They bought Jaguar & Land Rover off Ford. They also make the worlds cheapest car, the Nano.
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