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Old 06-21-2013, 03:21 PM   #1
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Subframe bushing inserts help!

I'm installing the Pedders subframe bushing inserts and can't even get started. What is the torque value of the sub-frame bushing bolts? I can't even get those suckers off!
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Old 06-21-2013, 04:25 PM   #2
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According to the Pfadt instructions, they are torqued to 100 ft-lbs. Get a big 1/2" breaker bar and the right size socket, and they'll come loose!
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Old 06-21-2013, 04:32 PM   #3
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Use a breaker bar or a good impact. I had no issues with the actual bolt. Biggest issue was getting the hat off the sub-frame.
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Old 06-21-2013, 04:41 PM   #4
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I have a cheap impact and they came off no problem. A breaker should work also.

I dropped the entire cradle which was easy and made access much better. However, I read somewhere where somebody lowered the carrier and then placed 4 sockets between the bushes and car and then jacked the carrier up letting the weight of the car do the work and press them out.

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Old 06-21-2013, 05:37 PM   #5
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Ah yes, works much better with a longer torque wrench capable of 250 ft/lb. Hopefully this was the only hurdle I'll run into. Thanks for the replies.
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I have a cheap impact and they came off no problem. A breaker should work also.

I dropped the entire cradle which was easy and made access much better. However, I read somewhere where somebody lowered the carrier and then placed 4 sockets between the bushes and car and then jacked the carrier up letting the weight of the car do the work and press them out.

good luck fun stuff
Haddad Motorsports did drop the cradle on my ZL1 when I watched them install mine last month. Made a huge difference.
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Old 06-21-2013, 08:30 PM   #7
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Does it matter if I re-torque the bolts before or after dropping the car back down?
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Old 06-21-2013, 08:46 PM   #8
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Does it matter if I re-torque the bolts before or after dropping the car back down?
Torque the bolts after you time the bushings.
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use a pipe stick it over the ratchet or breaker bar to break the torque or a big combo wrench to gain extra leverage on your wrench !!!! Easy pipe to use is your pipe jack from your car jack is what I use all the time for breaking torque on hard to break bolts.
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Does it matter if I re-torque the bolts before or after dropping the car back down?
Are you talking about the subframe bolts? I did mine before I put the car on the ground.

Tip: put a little blue locktite on the bolts and get try to torque them to around 80# and you should be good.
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Old 06-21-2013, 09:51 PM   #11
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Timed, locktited, and torqued! Thanks for the help everyone! That was definitely the most challenging mod I've done so far. Getting those metal plates off the bottom of the front bushings SUCKED!

Now to do the radius rod inserts on Sunday, get an alignment during the week, then hit the track next Saturday.
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Did you do it on jack stands? Got any advice? What are your impressions?

I'm planning on doing this mod soon
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Timed, locktited, and torqued! Thanks for the help everyone! That was definitely the most challenging mod I've done so far. Getting those metal plates off the bottom of the front bushings SUCKED!
Now to do the radius rod inserts on Sunday, get an alignment during the week, then hit the track next Saturday.
What method did you use to get the metal plates off?


The radius rod inserts are super easy.
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Old 06-22-2013, 08:42 AM   #14
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I'll throw this thread out there just in case someone hasn't seen it yet. It might help someone with the install.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...hlight=pedders
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