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Old 06-26-2013, 07:26 PM   #18
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I think the sub frame connectors on this car are not that big of a deal. Suspension mods that you should do would be trailing arms, cradle bushings, diff bushings. Coil overs are going to be alot better than just springs but you pay for it. I'm not real keen on the handling side of things for this car but sway bars might help and I think the 1LE has better sways than a SS if I'm not mistaken. The 3.91 gears are going to need a tune so might as well get a good CAI and Long tube headers to go with that tune. For the money I like aftermarket wheels like the TSW Nurburgrigs's or Forgestar wheels over true ZL1/1LE wheels.
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:11 PM   #19
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I have ZL1 wheels, BMR 1 inch drop springs and sway bars and it made a huge difference in my car's ability to move around. I'm assuming it's pretty similar to the 1LE now. But I'm also thinking of the gears but only due to the fact that I went with at TSP 231/236 cam with CAI, headers and catback... It's a whole new animal now but I'm only thinking of the gears to help with driving around town.. Bucking and surging at low rpms..
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:25 PM   #20
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Aside from the rear sway bar geometry and trans ratio my car is essentially a 1LE, but more power (see sig). I have carefully selected my mods to create a car that does everything very well. There are faster setups or better handling setups, but like the 1LE it is a great DD.
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Old 06-26-2013, 10:25 PM   #21
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Would I make my SS a 1LE? No, its an SS. But simply modding it to make it better, yes.
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:59 AM   #22
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Would I make my SS a 1LE? No, its an SS. But simply modding it to make it better, yes.
Yeah there are plenty of 1LE parts to pick and choose from, some of which I can get a nice deal on. Doing the whole 1LE setup would not be cost effective on a 2SS already on the street.

Some of the vendors around here need to have their heads pulled out of their asses. When a prospective customer is about to spend solid money on mods and Ivan the Special chimes in like he owns Camaro5 then this place becomes a joke. Talk about a stupid move.

I'll spend some time at the track talking to real drivers.
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Old 06-27-2013, 04:39 PM   #23
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There are so many quality aftermarket parts out there that are better than e GM stuff. I will say, the 1LE ring/pinion is dirt cheap compared to others. As for brakes and suspension, I'd go aftermarket.
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Old 06-27-2013, 04:52 PM   #24
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Your friendly neighborhood Mutant Racer has some money coming my way and if you were me would you 1LE your 2SS for the track?

Yes?

No?

Hellafreakinyeah!

No way dummy the 1LE is a joke!


Your thoughts?
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Old 06-27-2013, 04:55 PM   #25
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Well that what I need you guys for. I've owned heavily modded cars in the past but I bought them modded. This is my first time getting my hands dirty and doing things part by part.

I have some spec sheets and supposedly the new one for the 1LE track pack.

The ZL1 wheels I'm getting a deal on. The 3.91 gears I need. The truss rod is just well I might as well. I never believed they ever actually did much for a car, just looks.

Currently I'm looking at....

Stainless Racing Brake lines from Apex.

DBA 4000 front and rear rotors from Maryland Speed.

Pfadt lowering springs or I might just go with coil overs (I'm twisted on that one).

I have BMR Sways but want a bigger bar on the rear. Maybe ZL1? Or Pfadt?

I can't make heads or tails over sub-frame connectors. Perhaps you guys can give the 411 on that.

I need axles.

Engine Mounts and subframe bushings.



Let me scan these papers so you guys can see them.
I can work out a great package deal for many of these items if you are interested. Feel free to call, PM or email me with questions.

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Old 06-27-2013, 06:19 PM   #26
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1400 Hp axles..... Brake lines..... assorted suspension goodies..... and your already better than a 1LE...... so ya didnt get kool "factory " wheels.......
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Old 06-27-2013, 06:31 PM   #27
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Go talk to Tyler or Jordan at JDP. They sell all sorts of vendors parts and actually road race and Auto-X their own 5th Gen so they can give you some real world advice on what has worked for them.

To me I would do a combo of something like this:
Cradle and rear end bushings (you can probably get away with inserts)
Toe rods and Tie rods (either BMR, Spohn, or Pfadt)
Coilovers
Pedders ZL1 or Pfadt sways with a conversion to FE4 control arms
Gears
Short throw shifter
Stainless brake lines and DOT 4 fluid
Maybe some aftermarket brake pads but so far for me OEM pads/rotors have worked
Clutch fluid separator
Some better wheels
A good alignment

All that will get you in the right direction. Just my opinion though.
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:54 PM   #28
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Go talk to Tyler or Jordan at JDP. They sell all sorts of vendors parts and actually road race and Auto-X their own 5th Gen so they can give you some real world advice on what has worked for them.

To me I would do a combo of something like this:
Cradle and rear end bushings (you can probably get away with inserts)
Toe rods and Tie rods (either BMR, Spohn, or Pfadt)
Coilovers
Pedders ZL1 or Pfadt sways with a conversion to FE4 control arms
Gears
Short throw shifter
Stainless brake lines and DOT 4 fluid
Maybe some aftermarket brake pads but so far for me OEM pads/rotors have worked
Clutch fluid separator
Some better wheels
A good alignment

All that will get you in the right direction. Just my opinion though.
All great suggestions. Thanks for the support!

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Old 06-27-2013, 11:50 PM   #29
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All great suggestions. Thanks for the support!

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Will do for sure and thanks everyone for the great suggestions.

Tyler I'm up in the air on Engine mounts and sub-frame bushings, mainly which manufacturer. Axles you'll have to help me with. Brake lines and rotors.

3.91 gears and ZL1 wheels I can snag at a good price amd will need a Recaro seat or some harness. That is just for starters.

I've booked marked your sight so when my insurance settlement comes through you are getting a callfrom me no doubt!
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Ideal G Clutch Master Cylinder
BREMBO Brakes F/R Powder Coated

Pedders Bushings
RAM 9.5” twin disc clutch
JDP Remote Clutch reservoir Stage 2

Hurst Shifter with bronze bushing

LSR Sway bar front and rear ZL spec, Springs, bump steer kit, Billet LCA’s and Toe links
1LE shocks and struts with upper rear mounts
1LE Wheels by Factory Reproductions Nitto NT05 tires 275/315 combo

Just a few parts on my build..... and I can beat a stock 1LE, and with my mods I still cost more than 5k less....
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Old 06-28-2013, 10:06 AM   #31
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Will do for sure and thanks everyone for the great suggestions.

Tyler I'm up in the air on Engine mounts and sub-frame bushings, mainly which manufacturer. Axles you'll have to help me with. Brake lines and rotors.

3.91 gears and ZL1 wheels I can snag at a good price amd will need a Recaro seat or some harness. That is just for starters.

I've booked marked your sight so when my insurance settlement comes through you are getting a callfrom me no doubt!
JDP are good guys...they'll set you straight.

BTW: go pick up this month's Camaro Performers magazine and see JDP's Camaro in the feature article.
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Old 06-28-2013, 11:49 AM   #32
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Will do for sure and thanks everyone for the great suggestions.

Tyler I'm up in the air on Engine mounts and sub-frame bushings, mainly which manufacturer. Axles you'll have to help me with. Brake lines and rotors.

3.91 gears and ZL1 wheels I can snag at a good price amd will need a Recaro seat or some harness. That is just for starters.

I've booked marked your sight so when my insurance settlement comes through you are getting a callfrom me no doubt!
For Engine mounts, we have used both Pfadt and Prothane and both are good. The Prothane mounts have less vibes though. The Prothane mounts also lower the engine a little bit which has it's advantages as well as disadvantages (more clearance above the engine, but less clearance with low hanging headers) We have the Pfadt mounts on the JDP shop Camaro and our shop manager has the Prothane mounts.

We suggest solid subframe bushings. You can get away with inserts with lower power levels, but we still prefer to go solid if the budget allows.

Check out this video with the Pfadt solid subframe bushings in action.


As for Axles, we prefer DSS. They are really good about taking care of warranty issues in a timely manner that doesn't keep your car down for too long. Gforce axle's are good too. You really can't go wrong..

We also offer DBA rotors, Goodridge brake lines and the GM 3.91's gears. All in stock

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Old 06-28-2013, 12:03 PM   #33
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Solid bushings is on my "To Do" list some day.

More vendors are starting to come out with solid bushings so I'm sure the increased competition will start to drive down the prices some. ADM just recently started selling some solid bushings (http://www.admperformance.com/produc...63&product=258) and they are a couple hundred cheaper than Pfadt's bushings. I think LG Motorsports is working on some as well but it sounded like they'll be in the Pfadt price range.

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Old 06-28-2013, 02:36 PM   #34
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The 3.91:1 gears are a definite. I will throw the BMR catalog at the suspension.
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