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Old 06-26-2013, 01:56 PM   #1
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so i will be changing my oil when it gets to 1,500 miles. my question is what oil are you guys running? regular,syn,syn blend? and what brand ? im leaning towards mobile 1 because that is what ive ran on all my cars. my car is currently at 430miles.
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At 1500 miles? But why ?
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Im pretty sure Mobil1 only makes synthetic........... And your manual says to use only Dexos1 approved oils... Only synthetic oils are approved.


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Old 06-26-2013, 02:34 PM   #6
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At 1500 miles? But why ?
Break in period is untill 1500 miles. So i want to get that break in oil out and mibile 1 syn in
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Im pretty sure Mobil1 only makes synthetic........... And your manual says to use only Dexos1 approved oils... Only synthetic oils are approved.


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so i will be changing my oil when it gets to 1,500 miles. my question is what oil are you guys running? regular,syn,syn blend? and what brand ? im leaning towards mobile 1 because that is what ive ran on all my cars. my car is currently at 430miles.
I wouldn't use mobile 1 if I were you. I know for a fact that the LLT V6's do NOT like it at all. If you go on bob is the oil guy, you'll notice that the UOA's for the LLT and mobile 1 show very high iron counts, meaning that there are abnormally high wear rates for the engine. As soon as people switch to like Pennzoil Platinum, the iron count drops a ton. If you really feel the need to use Dexos rated oil (Pennzoil Plat meets the specs they just don't pay GM for the license), I would suggest Quaker stake: ultimate durability. Basically the same as Pennzoil Plat, just with the Dexos logo. I'm running the Pennzoil Plat in my 2010 LLT (woohoo no Dexos requirement!) And running Quaker stake in my equinox with the LFX V6...I understand the LLT and LFX are a little different, but not hugely. And I haven't looked at UOA's of the LFX...just my 2 cents


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I wouldn't use mobile 1 if I were you. I know for a fact that the LLT V6's do NOT like it at all. If you go on bob is the oil guy, you'll notice that the UOA's for the LLT and mobile 1 show very high iron counts, meaning that there are abnormally high wear rates for the engine. As soon as people switch to like Pennzoil Platinum, the iron count drops a ton. If you really feel the need to use Dexos rated oil (Pennzoil Plat meets the specs they just don't pay GM for the license), I would suggest Quaker stake: ultimate durability. Basically the same as Pennzoil Plat, just with the Dexos logo. I'm running the Pennzoil Plat in my 2010 LLT (woohoo no Dexos requirement!) And running Quaker stake in my equinox with the LFX V6...I understand the LLT and LFX are a little different, but not hugely. And I haven't looked at UOA's of the LFX...just my 2 cents


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Old 06-26-2013, 03:04 PM   #10
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I wouldn't use mobile 1 if I were you. I know for a fact that the LLT V6's do NOT like it at all. If you go on bob is the oil guy, you'll notice that the UOA's for the LLT and mobile 1 show very high iron counts, meaning that there are abnormally high wear rates for the engine. As soon as people switch to like Pennzoil Platinum, the iron count drops a ton. If you really feel the need to use Dexos rated oil (Pennzoil Plat meets the specs they just don't pay GM for the license), I would suggest Quaker stake: ultimate durability. Basically the same as Pennzoil Plat, just with the Dexos logo. I'm running the Pennzoil Plat in my 2010 LLT (woohoo no Dexos requirement!) And running Quaker stake in my equinox with the LFX V6...I understand the LLT and LFX are a little different, but not hugely. And I haven't looked at UOA's of the LFX...just my 2 cents


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How long have you been using PP and how many miles do you have.
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How long have you been running m1?
Any noises coming from motor? Ive readthat using m1 some ppl have engine noises and switched to PP and noise went away
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How long have you been using PP and how many miles do you have.
Been running PP since 4k miles. Change with the OLM...I only have 12k miles now though. But my car runs great. I had lifter tick on the stuff that the dealer used. Went away with the PP. she's quiet as can be.


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At 700 miles we changed the oil to full syn mobil 1 with a ac delco filter, also changed the rear axle fluid to mobil 1 full syn, rear axle fluid was very very black and both fill and drain plug magnets had a ton of metal on them its one of the 1st things I recommend to a new camaro owner cheap and easy to do also

Ather that 1st 700 mile oil change we have been changing oil ever 5k and the oil life monitor it normally at 20% when we are at 5000 miles, cant belive how long the OLM will tell others to go on there oil when ours barely makes 5k but I guess our car sees alittle different use than a typical v6 car on this forum
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Old 06-26-2013, 09:32 PM   #16
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At 700 miles we changed the oil to full syn mobil 1 with a ac delco filter, also changed the rear axle fluid to mobil 1 full syn, rear axle fluid was very very black and both fill and drain plug magnets had a ton of metal on them its one of the 1st things I recommend to a new camaro owner cheap and easy to do also

Ather that 1st 700 mile oil change we have been changing oil ever 5k and the oil life monitor it normally at 20% when we are at 5000 miles, cant belive how long the OLM will tell others to go on there oil when ours barely makes 5k but I guess our car sees alittle different use than a typical v6 car on this forum
why 700 and not 1500?
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with M1 75w 90 gear oil do i have to add an additive? i believe not but just want to make sure.
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found out that if you have a v6 automatic you dont need additive. it only goes for the manual v6, just to clarify if someone needs the answer
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why 700 and not 1500?
Because it was just before our 1st autocross event with the car and wanted cleaned oil and axle fluid in the car before we beat on the car for the 1st time
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Any noises coming from motor? Ive readthat using m1 some ppl have engine noises and switched to PP and noise went away
oh about 5000 miles ....i will never go back to conventional oil ....
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I wouldn't use mobile 1 if I were you. I know for a fact that the LLT V6's do NOT like it at all. If you go on bob is the oil guy, you'll notice that the UOA's for the LLT and mobile 1 show very high iron counts, meaning that there are abnormally high wear rates for the engine. As soon as people switch to like Pennzoil Platinum, the iron count drops a ton. If you really feel the need to use Dexos rated oil (Pennzoil Plat meets the specs they just don't pay GM for the license), I would suggest Quaker stake: ultimate durability. Basically the same as Pennzoil Plat, just with the Dexos logo. I'm running the Pennzoil Plat in my 2010 LLT (woohoo no Dexos requirement!) And running Quaker stake in my equinox with the LFX V6...I understand the LLT and LFX are a little different, but not hugely. And I haven't looked at UOA's of the LFX...just my 2 cents


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Please tell me where your source is? Because using mobile 1 fully synthetic is one of the best things you can do for the LLT to prevent the infamous timing chain expansion the 10s and early 11s had before the revised chain came out.
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Please tell me where your source is? Because using mobile 1 fully synthetic is one of the best things you can do for the LLT to prevent the infamous timing chain expansion the 10s and early 11s had before the revised chain came out.
Like I said. You can go on BITOG (bob is the oil guy) forums and look at UOA's there. I'm a member of the traverse forum too and they also have the 3.6 LLT, albeit detuned, and this is where I was first alerted to it. I'm busy now and don't have time to get links for you, I'll see if I can later.

Edit: also, on the traverse forum, they were saying the exact opposite of you. That mobile 1 was the worst for timing chain stretch and most agreed that either PP or valvoline Dino worked very well.


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Like I said. You can go on BITOG (bob is the oil guy) forums and look at UOA's there. I'm a member of the traverse forum too and they also have the 3.6 LLT, albeit detuned, and this is where I was first alerted to it. I'm busy now and don't have time to get links for you, I'll see if I can later.

Edit: also, on the traverse forum, they were saying the exact opposite of you. That mobile 1 was the worst for timing chain stretch and most agreed that either PP or valvoline Dino worked very well.


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please show the link. just trying to get the best oil in my engine
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...70#Post1899170 - this is for an outlook with the same LLT engine...notice the high iron running mobil 1...

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...Number=1892745 - look at the iron count for castrol edge (also regarded as good oil for the LLT's...its much much lower than mobile 1

http://s858.photobucket.com/user/jdr...-9-10.jpg.html - this is a Pennzoil Platinum in an 09 GMC Acadia (same LLT) - again...notice the much lower iron count compared to mobil 1...

so as you can see...on the LLT, at least, Mobil 1 shows much higher iron counts...i didnt suggest against using mobil 1 because i dont like them...they make, in my opinion, one of the best oils...for port injected cars, that is...for whatever reason, it seems to get beat up way more then other oils by direct injected engines...and on another note, OP, i think i found you on BITOG LOL
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http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...70#Post1899170 - this is for an outlook with the same LLT engine...notice the high iron running mobil 1...

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...Number=1892745 - look at the iron count for castrol edge (also regarded as good oil for the LLT's...its much much lower than mobile 1

http://s858.photobucket.com/user/jdr...-9-10.jpg.html - this is a Pennzoil Platinum in an 09 GMC Acadia (same LLT) - again...notice the much lower iron count compared to mobil 1...

so as you can see...on the LLT, at least, Mobil 1 shows much higher iron counts...i didnt suggest against using mobil 1 because i dont like them...they make, in my opinion, one of the best oils...for port injected cars, that is...for whatever reason, it seems to get beat up way more then other oils by direct injected engines...and on another note, OP, i think i found you on BITOG LOL
thanks, yup i signed up today. thanks for the links.
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