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Old 07-02-2013, 12:02 PM   #1
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2013 v6 1lt or 2009 mustang gt. which would win?

I mean the mustang is a gt but its got less horsepower. So if both were stock who would win?
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:23 PM   #2
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The Mustang. More torque, less weight, shorter gearing, and the solid axle will help the straight line.
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:38 PM   #3
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Been brought up more times then can remember...torque wins races...and since the v6 is lacking in that department the win goes to the GT most of the time.
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Old 07-02-2013, 01:32 PM   #5
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Old 07-02-2013, 04:52 PM   #6
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Old 07-02-2013, 05:01 PM   #7
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Lol been covered. A manual V6 with a driver vs a bone stock GT is not far from being a drivers race, anything else gives the GT a nice advantage. A V6 will hang right with a GT past 80 though, 6 speeds vs 5.
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Lol been covered. A manual V6 with a driver vs a bone stock GT is not far from being a drivers race, anything else gives the GT a nice advantage. A V6 will hang right with a GT past 80 though, 6 speeds vs 5.
Agree...on the highway the GT has less of an advantage and its closer, but from a dig the GT should get it every time if the car is driven properly.
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Better comparison would be a 99-04 GT vs a new V6 Camaro, with a slight advantage going to the new sixxer.
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Old 07-02-2013, 08:04 PM   #10
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Better comparison would be a 99-04 GT vs a new V6 Camaro, with a slight advantage going to the new sixxer.
I thought those SOHC 4.6 GTs were good for about a 14.1? I seem to recall running very even with my 94 z28. The new six is a mid 14 car, no?
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I thought those SOHC 4.6 GTs were good for about a 14.1? I seem to recall running very even with my 94 z28. The new six is a mid 14 car, no?
My friend has a new V6 with the longer gearing since it's a base model. My other friend has an 04 GT Convertible and raced him. I'd say the extra weight disadvantage cancels out the gear disadvantage. Anyway, the V6 won every time.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, they were both auto, and I'm pretty sure those old 4 speeds sucked a lot so that could be part of it.
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what if you put a zl1 hood and rear spoiler on the v-6 camaro??

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Old 07-02-2013, 08:30 PM   #13
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A 99-04 GT hard top with a 5 speed will beat a 2010 and up V6 Camaro. A 3V Mustang GT will also beat a 2010 and up V6 Camaro. The 99-04 GT will be a good race, but the Camaro will lose given equal drivers and bone stock cars. The 05-10 GT will win convincingly. The V6 Camaro is too heavy and it has insufficient torque.
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Old 07-02-2013, 08:37 PM   #14
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I thought those SOHC 4.6 GTs were good for about a 14.1? I seem to recall running very even with my 94 z28. The new six is a mid 14 car, no?
The auto is a mid 14 car but a 6MT is DEFINITELY a low 14 car. I pulled a 14.1 bone stock in my old LLT and consistently ran low 14s with an intake. A pro driver could pull a 13.9-14.0 out of a stock 6MT with seat time or just an intake.
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so is the ford gt the only v8 mustang?
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Old 07-02-2013, 08:41 PM   #16
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05-09 Mustang GT is a mid to high 13 car. It would beat a V6 Camaro convincingly.

The GT "only" has 300 hp, but peak horsepower tells a very incomplete story. You have to look at the whole curve. The V6 Camaro power peak comes right at red line, and it is a steep hike up to it. The 3v 4.6L doesn't so much have a power peak, but more of a plateau. It makes at least 295 over a wide range from about 5000 to 6000 RPM.
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What about a 4th gen ss versus v6 stock.

Or to help answer my argument with my buddy a 2013 ls v6 with a K&N 69 air intake and RX catch can with 2000 miles on it versus a stock 2001 ss 88000 miles on it.

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so is the ford gt the only v8 mustang?
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so is the ford gt the only v8 mustang?
The Ford GT isn't a Mustang at all. As ford V8 Mustangs there are several over the years: Mach 1, GT, Cobra, GT500, GT350, Bullitt, Boss, LX, etc. Newer bodystyle you'd be looking at the GT and GT500.
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What about a 4th gen ss versus v6 stock.

Or to help answer my argument with my buddy a 2013 ls v6 with a K&N 69 air intake and RX catch can with 2000 miles on it versus a stock 2001 ss 88000 miles on it.

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4th gen Camaros were a LOT faster than Mustangs of the time. Some did 12s stock or low 13s. Wouldn't be very close unless you had the turd auto without a stall or tune vs a full bolton v6 and I still doubt the V6 would win.
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What about a 4th gen ss versus v6 stock.

Or to help answer my argument with my buddy a 2013 ls v6 with a K&N 69 air intake and RX catch can with 2000 miles on it versus a stock 2001 ss 88000 miles on it.

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Give it to the ss on this one. Although it may be closer with the mileage on the ss if it wasn't well taken care of
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Give it to the ss on this one. Although it may be closer with the mileage on the ss if it wasn't well taken care of
My friend has an LS1 Trans Am with 170k on it... it's in pristine shape and runs great. It's surprising what a good owner can do for a car.
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My friend has an LS1 Trans Am with 170k on it... it's in pristine shape and runs great. It's surprising what a good owner can do for a car.
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What about a 4th gen ss versus v6 stock.

Or to help answer my argument with my buddy a 2013 ls v6 with a K&N 69 air intake and RX catch can with 2000 miles on it versus a stock 2001 ss 88000 miles on it.
An LS1 4th gen vs a 5th gen V6 would be an even bigger blowout. LS1 had 340-350hp, at least 80 ft-lbs more than the V6, and was way lighter.
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An LS1 4th gen vs a 5th gen V6 would be an even bigger blowout. LS1 had 340-350hp, at least 80 ft-lbs more than the V6, and was way lighter.
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