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Old 05-28-2015, 12:23 AM   #1
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Cam install checklist.......... LOL.

OK, so I know the usual stuff. Springs, pushrods and trunion upgrades. What else should I swap out while it's apart? 72k miles LS3........
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Old 05-28-2015, 01:28 AM   #2
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Melling 10295 is all thats needed you dont need a hi volume. a real Katech C5R timing chain. it comes in a bag and has JWIS on the links. Some places are sending regular IWIS chains by ummm mistake. Just get it from Katech there the same price. definitely LS2 chain tensioner.
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Might as well do the lifters and rocker arms if you have the funds. And port the heads.
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ya with 72k i would do the lifters as well.
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Timing chain tensioner!

Also a good tip was to use two long car antennas to hold up the lifters! The long metal ones on Chevy trucks work well! Ford ones are no good, they will give your car herpies haha
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Also headers and make sure you have a strong mass air sensor, it can cause driveability problems down the road.

I just did mine and low speed driving is back to normal, the bucking that slowly appeared over time is now gone.
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Timing chain tensioner!

Also a good tip was to use two long car antennas to hold up the lifters! The long metal ones on Chevy trucks work well! Ford ones are no good, they will give your car herpies haha
you can use anything up to 5/16" rod. make sure its clean. some use wooded bowels. I used 5/16" stainless steel rod
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And you may want to break the cam in with Br30 driven racing oil..... DO you have a oil catch can? Separate clutch reservoir? And a ported pump is available from various places like TSP... The pan would have to be dropped to change out the pump and the difficulty is in getting the pickup tube aligned and the correct placement of the correct o ring for the tube.

You would also need a Harmonic balancer bolt as its shot after one use, along with using a harmonic balancer remover. And while the stock dampener is o.k. its best with he increased harmful vibrations to go to a better balancer even though the engine is internally balanced the car will have "lope" to the engine and the vibration range in the affected parts will increase a lot, as vibrations can hurt crank bearings, timing chains, etc.
And a three bolt timing chain gear with the bolts, along with a ls2 timing chain dampener " dog bone" to ditch the stock prone to breakage ls3 tensioner. I imagine its probably pretty fouled up after 70k if you have no catch can and may want to seafoam it first.... And new belts as the A/C is a walk on and has to be cut off....

That's off the top of my head.... ooh and the lifters you would want are a part # 12499225 ls7 lifters and can be had for about $95 on ebay...ls3 and ls7 use the same ...... And I do a double break in that's recommended by driven racing, but hey you also need to consider the tune that need to change things, and of course gaskets.
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you can use anything up to 5/16" rod. make sure its clean. some use wooded bowels. I used 5/16" stainless steel rod
Probably want to use dowels instead of bowels.
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What about pushrods? 5/16 or 3/8? About that dampener......what's recommended that won't break the bank? Something that can also be used w/a blower later on. Aftermarket rocker arms instead of trunion upgrade? Is there anywhere to get an actual cam install kit that has everything I need, gaskets, lifters etc?
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Old 07-28-2015, 08:19 AM   #13
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What about pushrods? 5/16 or 3/8? About that dampener......what's recommended that won't break the bank? Something that can also be used w/a blower later on. Aftermarket rocker arms instead of trunion upgrade? Is there anywhere to get an actual cam install kit that has everything I need, gaskets, lifters etc?
Go to BrianTooleyRacing.com or call them directly good people to talk to.

I would recommend the LS2 dampner.
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And it don't break the bank, like $17. Least of your worries.
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Old 07-28-2015, 05:53 PM   #15
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OK, here's what I have on the way, 7.4 pushrods, LS7 lifters, Melling std volume oil pump, 3 bolt timing gear with arp bolts, timing cover gasket kit, lifter trays, 2 header gaskets, 2 head gaskets, 2 valve cover gaskets, arp head stud kit, btr trunion upgrade, btr platinum .660 spring kit with ti retainers, C5R timing chain, chain dampener, 160 deg thermo. Anything else I'm lacking?
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With the smaller most likely base circle your cam has you may be required to use a different size than the pushrods you have selected which is 7.4 the stock size.

You should get a harmonic balancer bolt. Depending on mileage you may have gaskets on the valve covers that are still o.k., and if your not pulling the heads why the head studs? And you did not mention the Cam....
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Get a Crank bolt. You can get GM or ARP. You don't want to reuse the old one plus the GM crank bolt is only like $6. Also, if you have the money you might as well do an Underdrive pulley since you are already taking off the stock one for the swap
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Also you can never be certain on what rod length size is needed until you measure it yourself. I was recomended 7.400 on my cam spec form but I ended up using 7.425. Unless you have a local shop you can buy from, buy a couple different sizes and return what you don't use, unless your car isn't your DD and you can afford to wait for the proper length to come in the mail. My car is my DD so I bought 7.425 because my buddy had a brand new set of 7.400 that he never used and if 7.425 wasn't the right length we would have tried the 7.4's. Just a thought.
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LS7 lifters require .080-.100 preload. I have to use 7.450 rods to get .083 preload. the stock cams base circle is 1.506. get the the new cams base circle and subtract it then divide by 2. This will get you the size you need to get you the stock preload.
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1.506(stock BC)- 1.419(new BC)= .087/2= .043 so i need a push rod that is .043" longer the stock push rod is 7.39+.043= 7.433 so I went with a 7.450 now with my new cam i got 1 1/4 turns approximately out of the rocker bolt. 1 turn of the rocker bolt =.047" so 1 1/4= .058. so if i add .025 (the extra going from an 7.425 to 7.450) I will get .083 preload.
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Shit I think the crank bolt comes in the front cover gasket kit. My cam is the BTR Stg 4, same as the Tick Polluter. I got studs because I can re-use them and the heads have to come off to swap lifters. My engine now has 76k on the clock.
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yes, I would change lifters with that many miles too, if not you could have used dowels or rods to hold the lifters up to change a Cam with out pulling the heads.

I am sure by now new lifters is a better option also because your lifters may have made tracks on the cam and the rollers will have tracks around them often too as wear on parts is almost never even on every lobe.... some get more oil usually from the way the oil pathways work on various engines and their galleys etc.
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I also ordered some 1-7/8" headers from that Speed Engineering place. O/R connection pipes and harness extensions for only $355. I'm going to be running the headers and CAI first with a base tune to see how the car responds to that before I do the cam swap. Wondering if I should replace the water pump and power steering pump while I'm in there. Does this engine require a particular coolant or can I get by with Peak or equivalent green fluid premixed?
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you need dexcool coolant. DO NOT mix with Green. if your pumps are fine leave them alone.
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