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Old 06-29-2013, 07:19 PM   #71
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What are the numbers for the GM 6.2L? Pretty hard to beat the 470hp and tq of the 6.4L
the new 6.2 is 420 hp 440 ft'lbs of torque. the 6.4 in the ram is 410\429.
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Couple months ago we a few of us were at the track playing with one of my buddies 2010 Z06 automatic.Between 4 of us NO ONE was able to get out of the 12's.

I believe torque managnent was killing us that night, when launching the car would take off and fall flat on it's face.
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Old 06-29-2013, 08:38 PM   #72
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a stock f150 ecoboost usually run 15 flat, not 14 flat.
this means you're trying to invalidate my statement by using an assumption of your own
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Old 06-29-2013, 08:44 PM   #73
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this means you're trying to invalidate my statement by using an assumption of your own

you go ahead and believe whatever makes you happy.
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Couple months ago we a few of us were at the track playing with one of my buddies 2010 Z06 automatic.Between 4 of us NO ONE was able to get out of the 12's.

I believe torque managnent was killing us that night, when launching the car would take off and fall flat on it's face.
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Old 06-29-2013, 08:50 PM   #74
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you go ahead and believe whatever makes you happy.
thanks for letting me know I can believe what I want..
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Old 06-29-2013, 08:50 PM   #75
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a stock f150 ecoboost usually run 15 flat, not 14 flat.
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Old 06-29-2013, 09:16 PM   #76
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ecoboost is a fail.
I know!

A 90whp gain from a tune and downpipe on a new gasoline truck is a total FAIL.

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Old 06-29-2013, 09:29 PM   #77
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I know!

A 90whp gain from a tune and downpipe on a new gasoline truck is a total FAIL.


you figured out what a turbo is?
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Old 06-29-2013, 09:37 PM   #78
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Why does everyone keep hating on the Ecoboost?.. It's annoying

I've seen one make 12's... can't beat the output these motors put out
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Old 06-29-2013, 09:52 PM   #79
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Because Ford is over complicating their engines. DOHC, turbo V6, it's all marketing hype. Their answer to the econ/horsepower wars is to make small engines with big ponies, and it's not working. They are making peak horsepower numbers but fail at where everyone drives them normally.

I demo'd an ecoboost for an entire weekend before I bought my silverado 6.2 (I owned a Ford Fusion AWD sport at the time and loved it! 260hp V6, no gimmicks). When I got the truck it had 4800km on it and the average fuel economy showed at 16.8l per 100km(canada). The power was not impressive.

Test drove the 6.2 and loved it. My trucks average economy now sits at 14.8l per 100km, this is 13% better mileage and 405 horsepower and gobs of torque. I haul a race car and trail every other weekend too.
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Because Ford is over complicating their engines. DOHC, turbo V6, it's all marketing hype. Their answer to the econ/horsepower wars is to make small engines with big ponies, and it's not working. They are making peak horsepower numbers but fail at where everyone drives them normally.

Well

I wouldn't call DOHC's, Turbo V6's marketing hype... considering mostly all manufactures are downsizing and turboing smaller engines

I think in my opinion, Ford missed the mark on the MPG factor and critics are making a field day out of it, otherwise... where is the fail...
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Old 06-29-2013, 09:59 PM   #81
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They are making peak horsepower numbers but fail at where everyone drives them normally.
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you figured out what a turbo is?
Yup, i'm on my 4th factory built turbo pick up and the low end torque sucks.

Im thinking about removing it and increasing displacement just like the 454 in my old motorhome.

There's no replacement for displacement.
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Old 06-29-2013, 10:13 PM   #82
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There's no replacement for displacement.
Try and tell the Ford fanbois here that.
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Old 06-29-2013, 10:35 PM   #83
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Well

I wouldn't call DOHC's, Turbo V6's marketing hype... considering mostly all manufactures are downsizing and turboing smaller engines

I think in my opinion, Ford missed the mark on the MPG factor and critics are making a field day out of it, otherwise... where is the fail...
Gah, "Ford missed the mark on the MPG factor".
So they made a 3.6 litre twin turbo that got 40 less horsepower and 13% less fuel mileage than a pushrod V8. I'd call that a total fail. Now the Ford forums a are rife with problems with these engines. Over complicted BS.
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Old 06-29-2013, 11:32 PM   #84
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What GM should really do is make a RCSB Duramax/Allison 2500HD. The MPG, HP, TQ, 0-60 would be very nice. LOL.
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