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Old 07-09-2013, 11:43 AM   #426
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looks like a mustang.....and I don't like it.
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:47 PM   #427
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The new Opel Monza Concept has similar headlights.
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Old 07-09-2013, 10:48 PM   #428
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Looks like they are going to do the same thing to the camaro they did with the Avalanche.

The new camaro had dramatic styling, and it was a HIT. Then they listen to all the average people give design input, they adjust their design accordingly, and create a coupe that looks like every other car on the market, and then wonder why no one buys it.

On the avalanche they had a crazy design that while a lot of people thought it was ugly, it sold well. They change the design to make it look like what everyone wanted and sales plumetted to 1/3rd what it was before, never recovering until they pulled it off the market.

GM needs a new VP of Marketing.
Most car makers do this, they go radical and then slowly make it less viually unique, I think right now KIA is the only maker that keeps pushing the creativity envelope. Everyone else starts trying to play it safe.
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Old 07-09-2013, 10:56 PM   #429
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Most car makers do this, they go radical and then slowly make it less viually unique, I think right now KIA is the only maker that keeps pushing the creativity envelope. Everyone else starts trying to play it safe.
Yeah, look how conservative Chevy got with the 2014 Corvette.... Talk about playing it safe!
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Old 07-09-2013, 11:01 PM   #430
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Yeah, look how conservative Chevy got with the 2014 Corvette.... Talk about playing it safe!
Maybe I should have clarified that when the model generation goes on the weaker the look gets. GM always starts making the look less aggressive. Most do. 2010 to 2013 camaro, far more aggresive than the 2014. Just an example.
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Old 07-10-2013, 01:13 PM   #431
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And because apparently some are incapable of reading...

IT'S NOT THE 6th GEN. IT'S JUST A MOVIE CAR.
......thank you, Fenwick.............now - will someone pleeeez put me out of my misery? this thread makes my hair follicles hurt............

You should scan the thread before posting...
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Old 07-10-2013, 01:16 PM   #432
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Maybe I should have clarified that when the model generation goes on the weaker the look gets. GM always starts making the look less aggressive. Most do. 2010 to 2013 camaro, far more aggresive than the 2014. Just an example.
I think most people would say the 2014 front end looks more aggressive than the 2010-2013...

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Old 07-11-2013, 03:59 AM   #433
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I think most people would say the 2014 front end looks more aggressive than the 2010-2013...

Yea stock. You throw that same '14 grill on the 2010-2013 (which is the body grill only wider) and it smokes it
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Old 07-11-2013, 09:51 AM   #434
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Yea stock. You throw that same '14 grill on the 2010-2013 (which is the body grill only wider) and it smokes it
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Old 07-11-2013, 09:54 AM   #435
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Maybe I should have clarified that when the model generation goes on the weaker the look gets. GM always starts making the look less aggressive. Most do. 2010 to 2013 camaro, far more aggresive than the 2014. Just an example.
2010 Buick LaCrosse



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Old 07-12-2013, 12:26 PM   #436
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What the hell?!?! How can the majority of you like the new look??? It's butt-ugly! It looks like a standard front with fancy lights. F#@kin' GROSS!!! This is a betrayal to the Camaro. Just like what they did in the 70s after only a few years. It's like they said:

GM Executive: "Let's see, the 5th Gen is beautiful and selling like crazy, how can we totally screw this all up?"

Kiss-ass designer nerd: "H-h-how about we c-c-create a lame, watered down, borring version of the successful one, s-s-sir?"

GM Executive: "Poindexter, you are a genuis!"

Kiss-ass designer nerd: "Th-th-thank you, sir. I love you, sir."

GM Executive: "OK, that's weird."

The last time a Camaro concept was introduced in a Transformers movie, it was rolled out to production. So this is very telling.

P.S. I hate the Transformers movies. They suck so much that even the star admitted it. Voltron would have been way cooler.
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Old 07-12-2013, 12:33 PM   #437
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Gm could save muchooooo$$$ if they just went with the basic malibu/lecrosse etc. Just add a unique camaro front and rear fascia. OH yea have the V6 engine and a 2 BBL carb.
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Old 07-12-2013, 01:36 PM   #438
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The new Opel Monza Concept has similar headlights.
Hmmm, the Monza is rumored to be on the Alpha platform...might be the best indicator yet of the '16 Camaro.

Check out the Recaros in this pic:

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Old 07-15-2013, 02:11 PM   #439
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Looks like a the same body just differnt parts, like the rear would have to see the front in person
It is a modified 5th Gen.

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Let me know what you think about the 6th Gen after it is released with superior performance by all measures.

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Looks to be the same size of the current Camaro... 6th Gen to be smaller.
Correct. It is a 5th Gen. The 6th Gen will be smaller.

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Maybe I should have clarified that when the model generation goes on the weaker the look gets. GM always starts making the look less aggressive. Most do. 2010 to 2013 camaro, far more aggresive than the 2014. Just an example.
Looks bad axx aggressive to me.



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What the hell?!?! How can the majority of you like the new look??? It's butt-ugly! It looks like a standard front with fancy lights. F#@kin' GROSS!!! This is a betrayal to the Camaro. Just like what they did in the 70s after only a few years. It's like they said:

GM Executive: "Let's see, the 5th Gen is beautiful and selling like crazy, how can we totally screw this all up?"

Kiss-ass designer nerd: "H-h-how about we c-c-create a lame, watered down, borring version of the successful one, s-s-sir?"

GM Executive: "Poindexter, you are a genuis!"

Kiss-ass designer nerd: "Th-th-thank you, sir. I love you, sir."

GM Executive: "OK, that's weird."

The last time a Camaro concept was introduced in a Transformers movie, it was rolled out to production. So this is very telling.

P.S. I hate the Transformers movies. They suck so much that even the star admitted it. Voltron would have been way cooler.
The last time a new Camaro was rolled out, the new Camaro prototypes had been released. No such release or debut has been made.

I can tell you that while the 6th Gen design is well advanced inside GM it is no where close to being released to the public. The better rumor is that the 67 style movie Camaro is closer to the 6th Gen, but once again that is nothing more than a rumor and most designers inside and outside of GM agree that retro is dead.

As for the new Camaro front fascias a little history is in order. As true to the prototype as the 5th Gen is, one of the concessions that caused great frustration with the designers is the upper grille and headlights were significantly taller than on the models. The technology was not available at the right costs to use the shorter lamps and thus shorter upper grille. That is not the case in the 2014. The grille is shorter and more aggressive. They still couldn't get the lamps as short as desired so they took shorter and designed around them.

The useless mail slot was replaced with a smooth surface and highly functional heat extractor hood. There is more aero work in the new front fascia than in the entire 2010 5th Gen. Tom Peters is among the very best in the world in working with engineering to give them the function they desire while maintain the integrity of the design under development.

No amount of information will change how an individual perceives a car design. It is a highly subjective area that either drives sales or alienates buyers. The fact is, the new design is controversial and that is a hallmark of great design. If people aren't passionate about design the designers have failed. As the 2014s start rolling into showrooms, I think many of those that dislike the new fascias will change views. Time will tell.

They had when they said the heat extractor is functional.

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Old 07-15-2013, 03:42 PM   #440
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:12 PM   #441
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Thank god we had the 5th generation.

That looks like Mitsubishi Eclipse !!!!!!!!!!
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Old 07-16-2013, 03:06 AM   #442
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I haven't posted for awhile. Just observing the new Vette and Camaro refresh. Don't like being any kind of downer on my 2 favorite vehicles. I have not read all posted comments, but glad I see this movie Bumble Bee is not the 6th gen. I have stated before that the 5th gen Camaro style and performance is gonna be tough to beat per my taste. Good luck!!! Thus far, the new C7 Vette appeals to me with the minor exception of the front fascia that reminds me of European styling for some reason. Not a fan of the rear fascia on the Camaro refresh. None of these opinions would prevent me from buying either one (I know the quality is there for sure). I will not be in the market for any of these new ones and am so happy and glad I got my 2008 C6 Atomic Orange Vette and 2010 IBM Camaro. Just my 2-cents worth.
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Old 07-17-2013, 07:57 AM   #443
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Like the headlights...but the grill and bumper??? WTF is that all about. If thats the way its going, I won't be upgrading AT ALL!!! That thing is DAWG BUTT ugly.
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What the hell?!?! How can the majority of you like the new look??? It's butt-ugly! It looks like a standard front with fancy lights. F#@kin' GROSS!!! This is a betrayal to the Camaro. Just like what they did in the 70s after only a few years. It's like they said:

GM Executive: "Let's see, the 5th Gen is beautiful and selling like crazy, how can we totally screw this all up?"

Kiss-ass designer nerd: "H-h-how about we c-c-create a lame, watered down, borring version of the successful one, s-s-sir?"

GM Executive: "Poindexter, you are a genuis!"

Kiss-ass designer nerd: "Th-th-thank you, sir. I love you, sir."

GM Executive: "OK, that's weird."

The last time a Camaro concept was introduced in a Transformers movie, it was rolled out to production. So this is very telling.

P.S. I hate the Transformers movies. They suck so much that even the star admitted it. Voltron would have been way cooler.
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Nice body kit on the current platform.


...that is all this is

The front and headlights are nice
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What the hell?!?! How can the majority of you like the new look??? It's butt-ugly! It looks like a standard front with fancy lights. F#@kin' GROSS!!! This is a betrayal to the Camaro. Just like what they did in the 70s after only a few years. It's like they said:

GM Executive: "Let's see, the 5th Gen is beautiful and selling like crazy, how can we totally screw this all up?"

Kiss-ass designer nerd: "H-h-how about we c-c-create a lame, watered down, borring version of the successful one, s-s-sir?"

GM Executive: "Poindexter, you are a genuis!"

Kiss-ass designer nerd: "Th-th-thank you, sir. I love you, sir."

GM Executive: "OK, that's weird."

The last time a Camaro concept was introduced in a Transformers movie, it was rolled out to production. So this is very telling.

P.S. I hate the Transformers movies. They suck so much that even the star admitted it. Voltron would have been way cooler.
IT'S JUST A 5TH GEN WITH A WEIRD FRONT FASCIA. IT'S NOT THE 6TH GEN.
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Chevy screws up the new Corvette and looks like they're well on their way to messing up the Camaro too. Great job. I guess nothing changes.

BTW - Can you clowns hurry up and release the rear package from the ZL1 so I can have my garbage 2010 version replaced. Thanks.
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Chevy screws up the new Corvette and looks like they're well on their way to messing up the Camaro too. Great job. I guess nothing changes.

BTW - Can you clowns hurry up and release the rear package from the ZL1 so I can have my garbage 2010 version replaced. Thanks.
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