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Old 07-02-2013, 02:22 PM   #1
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Cam, Nitrous, Stall car running 10.2?

So i've got a friend that says hes building a 2010 L99, cam, 150 shot, stall and DR's to run 10.3-10.2.

Is that possible?
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Old 07-02-2013, 02:25 PM   #2
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Probably have to take a bunch of weight out of the car to get there with only those mods
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Old 07-02-2013, 03:12 PM   #3
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very possible. i ran a 11.3 at 131 on a 125 shot with cam , full exhaust, rotofab , tune. on street tires with a 1.97 60 foot. it was also just sprayin like the last 1/8 maybe a lil more. on a progressive shot. so ya i say its possible. rhino should be close to doing it atm. or he may have went faster.
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Old 07-02-2013, 03:14 PM   #4
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With weight reduction sure, without, I doubt it. I had a 4th gen that went 10.9 stock cubes and 10.00 with 150 shot, and it was 3300 cutting a 1.38.
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Old 07-02-2013, 04:10 PM   #5
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it would be hard for rhino that ran a 10.8 not to pick up that much on a 150 shot. just sayin. it wont be easy and will take some good fuel and some work but it possible. its been done with a 200 shot alrdy.
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But his car is not the average. Let's say someone hit 11.3 cam only and sprayed 150 would you expect them to hit 10.2? My 4th gen did that but it was a lot lighter. If I went 11.2 h/c and sprayed 150 I'd hope for 10.5 I think.
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i fully expect to with tires and a clutch . the mph is there. but all im sayin its possible. very possible. these cars do well on nitrous . tq for big weight is a must. a cammed car spraying around 2800 rpm mark is gonna see around 700 tq to the wheels.
not sayin every car out there can or will but if that person makes it his goals and dont live 6000 above sea leave . i was also in 2000+ da . as u know it all in setup and what not. i mean right now i just play but if i plan on keeping this car for a while . which i do now. it should run 10.5 with very lil work. i know 10.5 is not 10.2 . but u get what im saying.
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The issue with sprayed automatics is the 6l80's first gear. Hit it hard and launch in second gear and you can go places.
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So i've got a friend that says hes building a 2010 L99, cam, 150 shot, stall and DR's to run 10.3-10.2.

Is that possible?
It is possible in perfect conditions with a low 1.4 60ft assuming you can get the traction off the line.

However IMO it's not very probable. Comparing the fastest L99 and then introducing nitrous is like saying you can go out a Robin Hood an arrow with another arrow with 1 shot. It's possible but unlikely.

There is a big difference in going from an 11.3 to a 10.3. The lower you go, the harder it gets to add a tenth.
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Old 07-02-2013, 10:32 PM   #10
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My only nitrous passes at the track in Memphis were disappointing on the mast cam. No traction that night, couldn't spray till about 50 mph. 1.7s 60 on motor then hit the spray, I went 6.88 at 104 1/8th and 10.60 at 133 on my best pass. With the new cam, and good track prep, with the progressive controller I just installed and some suspension work, I SHOULD go 9.9s to 10.1x at about 135-137. I have tweaked converter lockup too for the gas, as in locking in 3rd and 4th.

Most cammed L99s with gas wont see past mid-high 10s on avg though.
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like i said it gonna take someone that wants the most out of their car. 9 are possible. rhino thats what i have to do in my car too. i have a progressive shot and had bottle temps up to 950 or so. tried to take a full hit and it eat my clutch up. i started sprayin about the 1/8 and progressed each gear change to a .5 sec ramp from 50% to 100%. bottle temps were way down too to help soften the hit. it helped alot. stock clutch. but im mph was alway 130's . thats all im was workin on cause no tire and no clutch at the time. also 125 shot
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Old 07-03-2013, 09:33 AM   #12
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thanks for all the response. Sounds like yes, its possible, but you really have to massage the car and the driver to get it.
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exactly. very few will see it but it should run mid 10's maybe on the higher side of that. but it is possible.
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So i've got a friend that says hes building a 2010 L99, cam, 150 shot, stall and DR's to run 10.3-10.2.

Is that possible?

No way in the world. He won't even be close.

Figure an L99 is about 330 rwhp stock. At 150, so you're at 480, and a stall. You'll be lucky to crack a 10.


10.2/.3 you need a serious setup which is way more than a 150 shot. Go look at all the cars that run that fast. Way more than a stall and a 150. If it was that easy all you guys would have low 10 second cars!!!!!!!!!
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My only nitrous passes at the track in Memphis were disappointing on the mast cam. No traction that night, couldn't spray till about 50 mph. 1.7s 60 on motor then hit the spray, I went 6.88 at 104 1/8th and 10.60 at 133 on my best pass. With the new cam, and good track prep, with the progressive controller I just installed and some suspension work, I SHOULD go 9.9s to 10.1x at about 135-137. I have tweaked converter lockup too for the gas, as in locking in 3rd and 4th.

Most cammed L99s with gas wont see past mid-high 10s on avg though.

Cut a 1.4 60' and you're there. With that low of a mph your only shot at that low of an ET is leaving like a mofo.

What did you do for suspension?
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he said cammed bolt on stalled 150 . not just a 150 shot and stall.
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he said cammed bolt on stalled 150 . not just a 150 shot and stall.
Prob mid to high 10's if everything holds.

Still no 10.2. Whats going to hold the trans together when that 150 shot lights?
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Prob mid to high 10's if everything holds.

Still no 10.2. Whats going to hold the trans together when that 150 shot lights?
He's already running 10.8x without the giggle juice. I can't see how a 150 shot doesn't get him at least .6 more.
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He's already running 10.8x without the giggle juice. I can't see how a 150 shot doesn't get him at least .6 more.
Not Rhino. Some other dude who obviously has no clue how difficult it is to run a 10.2 in a 4k lb car.


I wouldn't put anything past Rhino.

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Not Rhino. Some other dude who obviously has no clue how difficult it is to run a 10.2 in a 4k lb car.


I would put anything past Rhino.
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Not Rhino. Some other dude who obviously has no clue how difficult it is to run a 10.2 in a 4k lb car.


I would put anything past Rhino.
This is the only reason why I thought that yes it is possible, Bc if rhinos set up gets traction he will easily hit 10.2!
But there aren't Rhino cars out there everywhere! Which is why I said it's very unlikely to happen. 10.50-10.90 is more likely unless this guys cammed car is already running 11.20's?
And if he is, where is his name on the Fast List?

Truth is any guy can take a cammed car, and spout off that he's gonna add nitrous in hopes of being this monster! But there are cammed Camaros that are barely running 11's. hard to say which one he is?
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This is the only reason why I thought that yes it is possible, Bc if rhinos set up gets traction he will easily hit 10.2!
But there aren't Rhino cars out there everywhere! Which is why I said it's very unlikely to happen. 10.50-10.90 is more likely unless this guys cammed car is already running 11.20's?
And if he is, where is his name on the Fast List?

Truth is any guy can take a cammed car, and spout off that he's gonna add nitrous in hopes of being this monster! But there are cammed Camaros that are barely running 11's. hard to say which one he is?
Very true. If he can go that's fast that's awesome but the reality is he probably won't. Again, if it was that easy why aren't there more gen v's going that fast?
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Very true. If he can go that's fast that's awesome but the reality is he probably won't. Again, if it was that easy why aren't there more gen v's going that fast?
Yep agree!! It ain't as easy as buying some parts, and boom your fast! I've seen 2 different ZL1's run mid 12's!
1 Mustang Cobra run 12.9, then finally got down to 12.3
And 2 cammed Camaros running low 12's

And I'm sure when they bought there stuff they had high hopes of running 11.0x's!

Mo to it than that!
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Definitely mo to it. I definitely had high hopes of getting into 11's.
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ya def wont be easy but possible. best my car has done is a 11.9@119 n/a . but still running street tires. it would take someone with dedication and the know how to do it but its possible .
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