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Old 07-08-2013, 12:10 PM   #1
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Anyone know how much whp gain from tune after CAI intake/scoop/ported TB?

I put on a CAI intake, apex scoop, and Vmax ported throttle body and love them, but was thinking about a dyno tune and was wondering if anyone knew about how much extra whp could be gained - is it worth it? Let's say I conservatively gained 15-18whp with the bolt ons, could a tune get an extra 5? 10? 20? The tuner is very reputable and of course I could just wait to see the gains, but I'm impatient and wanted to see if anyone had a general idea of what to expect. If you think I wouldn't get more than 5whp then I won't bother. Thanks!
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:30 PM   #2
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On my M6 I think I got 12 when added shorties and high flows( done together but others done after adding those got 12). Had intake tb and axel back, Autos with same combo seen 15, so with out all that about 10 I would think
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:31 PM   #3
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The eBay posting for mine said I gain 60hp!
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:44 PM   #4
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I'd say 10+/-.
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I'd say 10+/-.
^^ is about right for just the tune. 7-10hp
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:20 PM   #6
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I put on a CAI intake, apex scoop, and Vmax ported throttle body and love them, but was thinking about a dyno tune and was wondering if anyone knew about how much extra whp could be gained - is it worth it? Let's say I conservatively gained 15-18whp with the bolt ons, could a tune get an extra 5? 10? 20? The tuner is very reputable and of course I could just wait to see the gains, but I'm impatient and wanted to see if anyone had a general idea of what to expect. If you think I wouldn't get more than 5whp then I won't bother. Thanks!
It would all depend on the price. If you gained 10whp and the tune cost you $400+500, the price per HP is up there a bit. Personally, i'd wait till you actually added something that NEEDED a tune, like LT's.
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It would all depend on the price. If you gained 10whp and the tune cost you $400+500, the price per HP is up there a bit. Personally, i'd wait till you actually added something that NEEDED a tune, like LT's.
Did mine when added the shorties and highflow.Not needed technically, but wanted the most I could get from the combo.With the T/B and Halltech added in the fuel curve stock was all over the place and timing being retarded, normal, but not great. Now at 12.8-13.2 and timing good. Also took out torque management(such as it is on M6) and fans keep temp at 194-198. Tune is smog legal to, or will pass. On star didnt notice it either on the monthly report( rear o2's off)
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Did mine when added the shorties and highflow.Not needed technically, but wanted the most I could get from the combo.With the T/B and Halltech added in the fuel curve stock was all over the place and timing being retarded, normal, but not great. Now at 12.8-13.2 and timing good. Also took out torque management(such as it is on M6) and fans keep temp at 194-198. Tune is smog legal to, or will pass. On star didnt notice it either on the monthly report( rear o2's off)
Your highflows are what put you over the edge. The OP doesn't have them. The PCM can make a fair bit of adjustment for mods but once you start adding ALL the small things, it pushes to the edge of it's limits. That's a good example of a tune not being needed but does well to maximize what you already have. I just don't feel the OP has reached that point yet.
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It would all depend on the price. If you gained 10whp and the tune cost you $400+500, the price per HP is up there a bit. Personally, i'd wait till you actually added something that NEEDED a tune, like LT's.

^^^^^^ this
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Old 07-08-2013, 03:51 PM   #10
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The eBay posting for mine said I gain 60hp!
i got a marble you put in the gas tank, and it will give you 25 horsepower..
and its yours for $200..
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It would all depend on the price. If you gained 10whp and the tune cost you $400+500, the price per HP is up there a bit. Personally, i'd wait till you actually added something that NEEDED a tune, like LT's.
Couldn't agree more.
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i got a marble you put in the gas tank, and it will give you 25 horsepower..
and its yours for $200..
Will the marble void my warranty ????
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Will the marble void my warranty ???? Will it hurt my precious MPGs ???
Only the green one.


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It would all depend on the price. If you gained 10whp and the tune cost you $400+500, the price per HP is up there a bit. Personally, i'd wait till you actually added something that NEEDED a tune, like LT's.
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Does it have to be a "strong" marble like a cats eye? Or can there be a "weak" marble like an aggie?

And will it change the sound of my exhaust note?
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Does it have to be a "strong" marble like a cats eye? Or can there be a "weak" marble like an aggie?

And will it change the sound of my exhaust note?

all that and more !!! do you have paypal??
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Your highflows are what put you over the edge. The OP doesn't have them. The PCM can make a fair bit of adjustment for mods but once you start adding ALL the small things, it pushes to the edge of it's limits. That's a good example of a tune not being needed but does well to maximize what you already have. I just don't feel the OP has reached that point yet.
True, Just saying what I did and why, and yes the hi flows did put the combo to the edge.he doesnt need it but he wondered how much hp he would get. For the $ as he is now not really worth it. And he may not want to hassle with the warranty problem either.
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