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Old 07-09-2013, 03:59 PM   #1
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Hard Decision

To make a long story short : Local dealers has a 2013 3lz Z06 that stickered for $88.000 and would not work on price.Wife saw an all black 2013 ZL1 and fell in love with it.I told her if I got the ZL1 I was going to add the Lingenfelter 700 + horse power package.She said no problem , go for it.Now dealer with the Z06 wants to move it and would drop to $77.000 .I would only add cai and exhaust to the Z06.How would the 2 cars compare.Will not track the cars but would do some red light runs
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Old 07-09-2013, 04:07 PM   #2
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By the ZL1. The Z06 is about to be outdated in 3 months! We still have 2 years on the C5.
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Old 07-09-2013, 04:18 PM   #3
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How much are they asking for the ZL1?
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Old 07-09-2013, 04:48 PM   #4
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By the ZL1. The Z06 is about to be outdated in 3 months! We still have 2 years on the C5.
I don't feel as though that is a good reason, or maybe shouldn't be the only one.

Do you have kids, would you like to take your kids to car shows? Maybe that doesn't matter to you.
Are you just plain more of a Vette or a Camaro person?
What did you grow up loving?


Z06's are really bad ass, I had cash to buy either, frankly I could have been a little stupid and paid cash for a ZR1, but I really had my mind set on a 5th Gen Camaro, so I got a ZL1, never going to sell. Maybe one day I'd like to toy around with a Z06 or another Corvette too, but if I'm only going to have the one "sports car" it's going to be a Camaro, but that's what matters to me.


I see a lot of guys on here that trade cars every so often, new Vette comes out they get it, new CTS V comes out they trade the Vette. I'm more the type that I have my ZL1, I'd like to add a Z/28, not trade, and then get a 6th Gen as a daily driver and have all three, that's me.
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Old 07-09-2013, 04:52 PM   #5
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How much are they asking for the ZL1?
$63.000 out the door (tax-title-lic) and another $12.000 for upgrades but comes with a 2 year 24000 mile warranty.
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:01 PM   #6
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2012-1822 I love both cars.Just me and the wife with the granddaughter ever so often.Will be a weekend car not a daily driver.Always wanted to own a Z06,buts also know a 700 plus hp ZL1 would kick azz also.
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:05 PM   #7
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go for the ZL1 and do the modds u stated. it will keep up if not be faster than a stock z06 with a cai and exhaust. and u have room for the grand kids. 700hp in a camaro will be more than enough power.
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:15 PM   #8
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:22 PM   #9
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See if can you test drive each. If not sit in both cars and see which one is more appealing to you.
Honestly I feel in love with the design of the 5th gens when they first came out. My wife and I had the funds for either the ZO6 or the ZR1 but just like the ZL1 better. We were not to thrilled with the cramped feelings of the corvette and how low it is to the ground. Don't get me wronge the vets are awesome cars, but just not for us.
You and your wife need to make the final choices, but for us it was a no brainer. Oh and I could not leave well enough
alone and keep mine stock. Mine has 600 hp to the rear and life begins when the kids are out of the house and on there
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Good luck and post a pic of what you finally end up purchasing.
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:22 PM   #10
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Check these out. Two Brits evaluate the ZO6. Then a big Ol' American Hoonigan plays with a 700HP ZL1. I don't know about you but the choice seems like a no brainer to me.





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Old 07-09-2013, 05:28 PM   #11
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ZL1...ZL1...ZL1 - Z06 are a dime a dozen. I have 4 in the neighborhood I live in. A 700hp ZL1, that is special. Oh, and it comes with a back seat just in case,
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:53 PM   #12
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Zl1 any day of the weeks esp with the added Hp!!
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:54 PM   #13
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If the Z06 has the Z07 package (carbon ceramic brakes, magnetic shocks, same upgraded tires as the ZR1) then get the Z06. A stock ZL1 was faster at VIR (Virginia International Raceway) than a stock Z06 but slower than a Z06 with the Z07 option package (about 1-1/2 second per lap spreads between each of them).
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:58 PM   #14
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If the Z06 has the Z07 package (carbon ceramic brakes, magnetic shocks, same upgraded tires as the ZR1) then get the Z06. A stock ZL1 was faster at VIR (Virginia International Raceway) than a stock Z06 but slower than a Z06 with the Z07 option package (about 1-1/2 second per lap spreads between each of them).

But he would not be keeping the ZL1 stock if he purchases it, read his post.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:18 PM   #15
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zl1 all the way, I love the z06 with that amazing ls7. But if I had to pick I would pick the Zl1 for sure.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:22 PM   #16
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Ask the same question on the corvette forum, I'm going to bet you get much different answers!
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:20 PM   #17
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Vette prices are dropping like rocks. Couple of hot buys here that should be easy to duplicate at a local dealer. I'd opt for the 427 Convertible with F55 suspension for $61k.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-d...-61-484-a.html
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:23 PM   #18
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First off all, don't buy a new z06. You can get a very low mileage one for <$50k. Put $4-5k in it and have a nice 600rwhp n/a car that will beat up most cars.

427 vert would be nice. Intake/tune/headers and it should handle a 700hp zl1 easy enough in a straight line if that is what you want.
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Old 07-10-2013, 09:45 AM   #19
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2012-1822 I love both cars.Just me and the wife with the granddaughter ever so often.Will be a weekend car not a daily driver.Always wanted to own a Z06,buts also know a 700 plus hp ZL1 would kick azz also.
One thing to note. The 700 HP kit by Lingenfelter is more like 700 at the wheels. A guy in the Camaro club I belong to has one and it is a beast. I believe it dyno'd a little over 700. If you want a car with stupid power that would do it.

I love my ZL1. If it was me I would buy and drive stock for a few. (Maybe 1500 miles to allow for break-in plus a few to feel how strong it is.) The car is very fast on the street and other than bragging rights you might not need the extra HP. (Not that I don't want to send mine off to have it done. )
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:04 AM   #20
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I have a spec sheet form Lingenfelter for the 700 HP pkg and it says 634 to the rear wheels. for me the Camaro is the wya to go, it just has that true muscle car look to it.
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Old 07-10-2013, 05:35 PM   #21
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See if can you test drive each. If not sit in both cars and see which one is more appealing to you.
Honestly I feel in love with the design of the 5th gens when they first came out. My wife and I had the funds for either the ZO6 or the ZR1 but just like the ZL1 better. We were not to thrilled with the cramped feelings of the corvette and how low it is to the ground. Don't get me wronge the vets are awesome cars, but just not for us.
You and your wife need to make the final choices, but for us it was a no brainer. Oh and I could not leave well enough
alone and keep mine stock. Mine has 600 hp to the rear and life begins when the kids are out of the house and on there
own.
Good luck and post a pic of what you finally end up purchasing.

AGREED I HAD THE $$$ FOR THE ZR1 AND THE ZL1. I CHOSE THE ZL1 VERT AND HAVE NEVER LOOKED BACK. LOVE THE MAGNETIC SUSPENSION ON THE ZL1 AND WITH A FEW MODS I WILL HAVE @ 600 RWHP.....MORE THAN MY REFLEXES CAN HANDLE BUT IT SURE IS FUN TOO DRIVE!!!!
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First off all, don't buy a new z06. You can get a very low mileage one for <$50k. Put $4-5k in it and have a nice 600rwhp n/a car that will beat up most cars.

427 vert would be nice. Intake/tune/headers and it should handle a 700hp zl1 easy enough in a straight line if that is what you want.
Off all the comments I think this one is on point. When the C7 hits the streets you will be able to get a lightly used 2010 or 2011 for a steal and the cars are nearly identical with the exception of some interior tweaks.

If you are going to spend that kind of money on a weekend driver I say go with the ZL1 and do the mods. The Z06 is not a tame vehicle ( I own a 2010) and won't be very pleasurable unless you are driving the crap out of it.

Somone said Z06's are a dime a dozen. Camaro's are too and not enough people can tell a Camaro SS from a ZL1 unless they are "enthusiasts" just like mistaking a Z06 for a Grand Sport. Add the ILE's to the mix and people won't even turn their head at a Camaro pretty soon. To us there are obvious differences but don't buy it for looks alone.

Do you want supercharger wine or the lifter tick of the 7.0L in the Z06?

The ZL1 is more comfortable in a lot of ways but I say drive em both. Go drive used ones so you can throttle them and you aren't beating up a new one before break-in.

Hell wait a few months and get a C7. You get darn near the HP of a C6 Z06 and a unique look.

Good luck with your choice either way. Both are great vehicles.
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I wouldn't deal with a dealer like this who won't budge on price then all of a sudden will because you might not buy the higher priced vehicle.

If I were you I'd talk to BeckyD so you don't get screwed!
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Old 07-10-2013, 07:08 PM   #24
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I drove the ZO6 at the same dealership when I drove my ZL1..I bought the ZL1 and will never get rid of it.. Mine makes 705rwhp and 694trq which should be 840-850 at flywheel. I sent you a PM..
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:30 PM   #25
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I drove the ZO6 at the same dealership when I drove my ZL1..I bought the ZL1 and will never get rid of it.. Mine makes 705rwhp and 694trq which should be 840-850 at flywheel. I sent you a PM..
+1 I did the exact same thing to my vert. Vert top cuz the ole lady liked it and mods for me plus I can take a couple of kids to get ice cream!
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