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Old 07-18-2013, 09:36 PM   #451
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Really? Do you really know anything about a Corvette? Apparently not.
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I only found one new, in stock, base C6 for sale within 200 miles of my address using Autotrader to search all dealerships. There may not be a high demand according to some, but they are not in stock.....anywhere....when these places all had ZL1s in stock.....
That's funny...I just did a search on cars.com and found 55 new base model C6s within a 250 mile radius of downtown Houston. And I've owned a Corvette for 4 years and NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON has ever waved at me...lol
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Just saw this one... nice swap out to the vette. I drool over them all the time but never pulled the trigger. Should be a lot of fun.

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In the STRICT definition, it is not a sports car, it is a GT car. A sports car is a car with 2 seats. A Camaro is a Grand Touring car because it seats more than 2. Both are fine cars. But the Corvette is much lighter, thus having a superior power to weight ratio. I love the Camaro. I owned 2. 95 Z28 and a 2001 SS.
NOW THAT'S FUNNY. I don't even care. Just stuck my head in to see the continued ridiculousness of this thread. Amazingly I found the one person who has finally been able to truly define the universal difference between sports cars, Gt's, muscle cars, pony cars, and monster trucks. I was lost and now I am found because up until this point I have basically looked over a lot of the internet, many a article, many a automotive television show and have yet to find these true definitions coming exactly the same from more than one automotive authoriy. I'm so glad you cleared that up for me. I can sleep better now.
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I don't have a sport car.

I have a Super Sport car
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After much deliberation, I decided to get rid of my beloved “green mile.” My 2011 2SS/RS LS3 just had to go. I’ve been asked at work why I got rid of it. The reasons are simple, unaddressed, and repetitive. So, as I was asked one hour ago, name 3 reasons you got rid of it. Here goes. I believe everyone should give a car like this respect when it is let go. I will, but feel others need to know why.

The number one reason why I got rid of it is the paint. Every wash. I MEAN EVERY WASH, there was another place flaking/chipping/peeling and scratching. I went to try to switch to a high rise spoiler. COULDN’T! Know why? The ENTIRE underside of my spoiler had peeled off. Yup. Down to the metal. Wow. Someone forked out 40 grand for this when they bought it. I only paid 26 out the door used. If I was the guy who paid 40, I would be tossing stuff around my front porch and constantly on the phone with GM. The paint absolutely ruins this car. It was designed to look good, and without paint, nothing looks good. Moving on.


Number two. Popularity. Down here in Texas, these things are like ants. I put green stripes on my black car just to try to look different. Well, it worked….for a little while. Then I realized that is why there are so many modded ones. This is a car you keep buying things for to TRY to make yourself happy. It works for a little while, then the car is just….boring again. There was a professional review that docked the Camaro because the style is its biggest asset, but biggest enemy. You buy one to stand out. When there are so many that you don’t stand out, you are left with a mediocre performing car that should be doing better for what it is. I didn’t say that, a professional did.


Number three is the people. Every Camaro owner I see on the street DOES NOT WAVE. They do not do anything except hammer it, and start weaving through traffic at 100 plus, hoping you will chase them. Umm, no. Go ahead. I can’t count how many times that has happened, and next time I see them is on the shoulder. Red and blues. Then we get to read about it on here about how the cop was a douche, the driver is innocent, and lots of people chime in about money (like cops work on commission or something). Car shows are the exact same. “Why didn’t you buy a ZL1?” Is all I heard. Hmm, let’s not get into that argument, because we all know how much I hate the ZL1.

It’s not being biased when you own one and are experiencing the same setup, just less. The crowd is just stupid. At a raceway, my brother took his 03 Cobra against one. The guy red lighted just to TRY to get ahead, and STILL lost by 3 cars. That happened a lot that night, and embarrassed me. People red light just to look cool going down the track, which, we experienced racers, are laughing at you on the inside. Just because you take pics of your GTECH telling you you went 12.5 does not mean you went 12.5.
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Final thought. The Camaro is overpriced. 66,000 for a ZL1 coupe? A ZL1 couldn't touch this vette, or really, a majority of them which are incentived to less! REALLY? You HAVE to be kidding me GM. I’ve been screwed before, but at least they have a truck called a Ram so I was ready for it. My Dodge caliber had better paint quality than the Camaro. My 2000 Z28 is STILL shining. See it all the time. So they put restrictions on you. Wahhh. Cry me a river. If I gave you billions, I’d put restrictions on how you make paint too.

Onto the real spot light. After looking around at all cars, I wound up with the ONLY car that GM has created that has always worked. You have to go to Britain to find a bad review on it. I went with this Corvette. Just to prove my point, this is a 2007. Looks like it just rolled out the show room. Not even a SCRATCH on this thing. Seriously, I looked for thirty minutes straight. Wasn’t the vette….painted….with the same….paint as the Camaro? When is the last time you saw a vette peeling two years after being made? Umm, never. It’s called ATTENTION to detail. The Camaro is being rushed out because of the high demand, and the consumers are paying the price. It was either this or a viper RT/10 since I found this baby for a steal. My insurance DROPPED 46 bucks A MONTH on this. REALLY? I love it. It looks better, its faster, cleaner, and draws more attention. Not to mention, I have seen multiple corvettes on the road ranging from early 90s to brand new grand sports. ALL…..have waved back. Every one of them. I even went to a corvette meet…on accident…on my patrol bike. I just so happened to drop in for a minute. More of an older crowd, but all very nice, and even offered me gatorades while I was out riding. It’s a great car that Chevrolet got right. The weight difference is crazy from the vette to the Camaro. I feel like my Camaro was crawling in comparison to the corvette. I’m still a GM guy at heart, and this corvette is proof of why. This is an absolutely stunning car, and I am very happy with it. I even have it inside of the garage since the Camaro….slept outside since the paint sucked anyway. The corvette is beautiful. There truly is an *** for every seat, but this one is mine. I was very disappointed with the Camaro and hope the next generation is better. Right now as it sits, I pay the same for this 07 vette (per month, insurance included) than I was for my SS. The vette just turned 30k miles also. My Camaro had 38k. So, officially, I say adios, sayanora, and let the fleur de lis fly proudly.
You're ego must be weak if you need someone to wave at you. REALLY?
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Anyone that owns a true sports car would argue with that statement.

Webster's dictionary defines it as:

Main Entry: sports car
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: a low small usually 2-passenger automobile designed for quick response, easy maneuverability, and high-speed driving

USUALLY...just because it has a back seat, doesn't mean it's not a sports car. It fits every other point in that definition. I just think if you say the Camaro isn't a sports car, you shouldn't be allowed in the argument.
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The number one reason I would get rid of my Camaro is having an unexpected addition to the family of 4. But even then the backseat folds down.
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USUALLY...just because it has a back seat, doesn't mean it's not a sports car. It fits every other point in that definition. I just think if you say the Camaro isn't a sports car, you shouldn't be allowed in the argument.
Here is a dictionary definition of muscle car:

: any of a group of American-made 2-door sports coupes with powerful engines designed for high-performance driving

That fits. So you don't get to kick people out of the discussion.
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Here is a dictionary definition of muscle car:

: any of a group of American-made 2-door sports coupes with powerful engines designed for high-performance driving

That fits. So you don't get to kick people out of the discussion.
Didn't kick anyone out, just voiced my opinion, like everyone else here. Some people think just because they own a Corvette or Camaro, they know everything about cars. Why don't you look up the dictionary definition for know it all!
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Old 07-19-2013, 07:17 AM   #467
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Here is a dictionary definition of muscle car:

: any of a group of American-made 2-door sports coupes with powerful engines designed for high-performance driving

That fits. So you don't get to kick people out of the discussion.
I'm afraid that better fits a younger hotrodder's idea of what a sports car is. Too focused on the engine, not enough on overall balance.

The best I'll give you is that the Camaro and the Mustang are borderline sports cars (and at a bigger stretch I'll throw in the Challenger), but they still lack the nimbleness and driving "feel" that really defines what a sports car is.

In accepting the above as sports cars, you then have to accept the idea that the "sports car" spectrum is a lot wider than your car either being a sports car or not even close. No way are the above-mentioned ponycars at the same point of "sports car hardcore-ness" as the Miata, which in turn is a pretty weenie entry in comparison to a Lotus or Caterham 7 (Caterham being the official Lotus 7 continuation nameplate).

That also means that OP's new ride isn't as hardcore of a sports car as most folks now think. Time was when it was considered a "GT car".

The problem with blurring the lines that distinguish general categories of cars is that eventually the individual category names become meaningless. Would you accept a V6 Camry as a "muscle car" even though it'd put up a decent quarter mile fight against many of the 1960's original muscle?


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But us old timers usually consider only 2 seater performance cars as Sports cars.
Well I'm going to take the back seat out of my Camaro tonight so it can be a sports car tomorrow!
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: any of a group of American-made 2-door sports coupes with powerful engines designed for high-performance driving

That fits. So you don't get to kick people out of the discussion.
interesting. isn't coupe a car? so the definition of muscle car is American made sports "car"...
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USUALLY...just because it has a back seat, doesn't mean it's not a sports car. It fits every other point in that definition. I just think if you say the Camaro isn't a sports car, you shouldn't be allowed in the argument.
So anyone with a different opinion than you is not allowed in the argument?....
There has to be two sides to every argument or there would be no argument in the first place...
I just have a different opinion of what a real sports car is than you. That's all, no need to start telling anyone that they are not allowed to discuss it.
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There has to be two sides to every argument or there would be no argument in the first place...
seems like a pretty simple concept
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Wow, I can't believe I just read through all 20 pages of this thread! What's wrong with me....lol
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Wow, I can't believe I just read through all 20 pages of this thread! What's wrong with me....lol
Nothing better to do I guess....
I think I am going to go get in my Camaro and drive around to see if I can get someone to wave at me...
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You know, I had skipped this thread for a number of days and being off work today thought I'd open it up to see what the fuss was about. It turned out to be kinda like a bad car wreck......just couldn't look away.
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