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Old 07-10-2013, 10:28 PM   #295
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In closing, there is nothing more I can say here. The C6 Corvette is a better, lighter, faster, easier to maintain, ding free, better on gas, better built, rarer, better standard optioned icon for Chevrolet. Period. All of that is proven. Not by me, but by multiple people. Don't think this was personally attacking anyone, or a biased view. It's facts. Believe them or not, it's facts.
The problem is that you're not comparing apples to apples and you keep trying to shove your opinions down everyone's throats. The Vette and Camaro are not direct competitors nor are they even in the same class. And really, I've spent time on Vette forums because I use to have a couple. And, I can tell you that the C6 is much better than the C5, but the C6 is not the perfect car that you profess it to be. They have all sorts of bugs of their own, the interiors are very dated and as much as you like to say it, a base LS2 is not faster than a ZL1. Hell, it's not even faster than a 1LE at many road courses. I'll give you the lighter and the better on gas, but that's about where it stops. To most real Vette people the base C6 is just an old mans car to putt around in just to say that I finally got a vette. The real ones are the Z06. That is the best bang for the buck car out there and very respected. The base Vette is the equal to buying a V6 Camaro to many. I don't think anyone is hating on the Vette. It's an icon for sure, and I personally love them if it's the right one. It's what you're trying to do just to stir the pot that is getting you all the negative comments. Many members on have have changed to other types of cars and haven't gotten the reactions that you have, but they used tact when they explained the reason for their change. I'll be the first one to say that the camaro isn't perfect. I had a 2010 that was loaded with problems, but I can also tell you that the news have gotten a lot better. My ZL1's quality is very good and the paint is flawless. The C6 has had about the same thing happen to them too. The earlier ones weren't as good as the later ones. That's pretty much the norm these day with any model car. Manufacturers use the consumer for R&D to improve their products.

Oh and we don't have the Vette to thank for the Camaro but rather the return of the Challenger and the retro mustang in 05. Remember the Camaro was dead before their return. We may use some of the Vettes parts on our Camaros, but that's just good business on GM's part.

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Old 07-10-2013, 10:36 PM   #296
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Everyone should keep in mind that the OP is a Police Officer. He's irritated enough to sell a car because other Camaro drivers don't wave at him. Jeez, if he pulls you over and you don't grab your license and registration in a timely fashion, he may taze you for the Hell of it. Hey OP, can I see your psych evaluation score from the academy? Dude, get a grip!
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Used car lot: Yeah we need a Camaro, its for a cop..
Well I'm ****ed! I scimmed this ridiculous post at the beginning and totes missed the cop/Houston fact. I'm sorry I didn't wave at you and contributed to you trading down. Now you know my car and will probs pull me over when I see you in one of those Badass white ghosted camaros the PD now has.
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as much as you like to say it, a base LS2 is not faster than a ZL1.
Take it up with GM. Both rated right at the same 12.3 quarter. Did I mention that is with the vette on run flats and on regular 87 pump gas?

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Well I'm ****ed! I scimmed this ridiculous post at the beginning and totes missed the cop/Houston fact. I'm sorry I didn't wave at you and contributed to you trading down. Now you know my car and will probs pull me over when I see you in one of those Badass white ghosted camaros the PD now has.
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Thanks! Nah, I won't. I'm not a douche cop like most make me out to be. I don't work at HPD either, so no worries there.
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:52 PM   #298
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Take it up with GM. Both rated right at the same 12.3 quarter. Did I mention that is with the vette on run flats and on regular 87 pump gas?
Actually, The ZL1 is rated by GM at 12 seconds in the quarter with a 0-60 of 3.9 seconds...

http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro-zl1-...ml#Performance

The base LS2 Corvette was rated by GM at 12.5 seconds in the quarter mile with a 0-60 of 4.2 seconds

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...-ls2-guys.html

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Old 07-10-2013, 11:06 PM   #299
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Actually, The ZL1 is rated by GM at 12 seconds in the quarter with a 0-60 of 3.9 seconds...

http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro-zl1-sports-car.html#Performance

The base LS2 Corvette was rated by GM at 12.5 seconds in the quarter mile with a 0-60 of 4.2 seconds

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-corvette-general-discussion/2138143-ls2-certified-horsepower-for-ls2-guys.html

But don't let facts get in the way of a good story

Covered this earlier in this thread with REAL times. Not paper. 12.1-12.3 averaging for the ZL1. 12.3-12.5 averaging for the corvette. ZL1 has launch control. Vette has run flats and 87 pump gas. Hmm. Anyone with half a brain could tell you thats an even match considering that.

So 08 BASE VETTES are putting faster times than the ZL1? Testing with run flats? No launch control? ROFL! Why would you buy a ZL1?
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Take it up with GM. Both rated right at the same 12.3 quarter. Did I mention that is with the vette on run flats
That's not in the real world. Most don't run that fast and on a road course for what the Vette is more design for than the drag strip the Zl1 smokes the base C6 ls2 and even the 1le beats it. You seem keep leaving that little tidbit out.

Here is one fast list I found from one of the vette forums. Note the average at 12.79 seconds.
Showroom Stock LS2 (2005 -2007)
12.21 @ 115.45 - LS1LT1 - 06 A6 - (1282)
12.23 @ 115.58 - 06C6FVR - 06 M6 Z51 - (337)
12.31 @ 114.82 - CYA Vett - 05 M6 F55 - (679)
12.38 @ 115.86 - Proney - 07 M6 - (3521)
12.42 @ 113.90 - DrRichie - 05 M6 Z51
12.49 @ 114.90 - Jschindler - 05 M6 Z51
12.53 @ 113.00 - Wicked07C6 - 07 M6 Z51 - (918)
12.54 @ 113.59 - Tony 63 Vette - 06 A6 - (1514)
12.54 @ 113.74 - Tony96LT4 - 06 A6 Z51 - (1153)
12.56 @ 113.39 - Red Sleeper - 06 A6
12.56 @ 112.00 - Orange C6 - 05 A4 Z51 - (60)
12.63 @ 114.88 - Prankster - 06 M6 - (1625)
12.64 @ 108.69 - DMcRacer - 07 A6 Z51 - (4223)
12.65 @ 111.65 - Zippin Zee - 05 M6 Z51 - (51)
12.66 @ 113.03 - Mdrrandall - 07 M6 Z51 - (1679)
12.69 @ 112.32 - Silverlx - 06 A6 - (876)
12.70 @ 112.43 - Jelsis - 06 A6 Z51 - (456)
12.70 @ 113.00 - Blackmajik - 07 A6 - (1631)
12.71 @ 111.30 - Flyin05 - 05 M6 Z51
12.71 @ 111.00 - Demented - 05 A4 Z51
12.74 @ 108.67 - Shooter 49 - 05 A4 3.15 - (39)
12.75 @ 109.25 - Ponchorello - 05 A4 3.15 - (994)
12.76 @ 112.57 - C5Pilot - 07 A6 Z51 - (907)
12.79 @ 112.17 - Jchazr - 05 M6 Z51 - (451)
12.80 @ 111.00 - SheDevilC6 - 07 A6 Z51 - (1672)
12.81 @ 112.83 - Vette-oholic - 05 M6 Z51 - (498)
12.81 @ 110.95 - SkyKing - 07 A6 F55 - (2488)
12.85 @ 114.53 - Mr Z51 - 06 M6 Z51
12.93 @ 111.40 - DiggyMoe - 07 M6 - (969)
12.97 @ 108.00 - Ginny C6 - 05 A4 F55 - (60)
12.98 @ 108.00 - Tampa Vet - 05 A4 3.15 - (123)
12.99 @ 111.70 - C64ME - 05 M6 Z51 - (333)
13.04 @ 109.15 - TMyers - 06 A6 - (532)
13.05 @ 113.31 - RDunn - 06 M6 - (986)
13.10 @ 108.70 - Rothchilds - 05 A4 F55 3.15 - (1087)
13.12 @ 110.40 - JDWK - 05 M6 Z51
13.25 @ 110.60 - C6 Matt - 05 M6 Z51 - (122)
13.26 @ 108.59 - Sfadchi - 06 A6 Z51 - (888)
13.26 @ 105.30 - Joeking - 05 A4 Z51 - (661)
13.30 @ 107.00 - Shurite44 - 06 A6 Z51 - (769)
13.35 @ 108.10 - Phatpharmd - 06 A6 - (595)
13.62 @ 106.18 - Rich28 - 05 A4 Z51
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My dads best time ever was a 12.68 on a cool fall day and good track conditions.

Check out the stock ZL1 fast list from this very site. you'll see the average
of 12.14 seconds.

That's a big difference.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21013
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Face it bud. You down graded to the worst of the C6s ever and you are trying to justify it in your mind by running everyone down in this thread.

I'm out of here.

Enjoy your seven year old car.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:21 PM   #302
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:25 AM   #303
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Face it bud. You down graded to the worst of the C6s ever and you are trying to justify it in your mind by running everyone down in this thread.

I'm out of here.

Enjoy your seven year old car.

Guys,

You're acting like him by bashing him. He had a camaro and didn't like it and the "camaro culture" according to his eyes. Dude bought a corvette and he's happy with it. He isn't complaining about his car.

No need to go personal with him. It just closes his ears and makes him believe he's just.

Be the bigger man, guys. If you want to go personal with him for fun, making pics, have at it. Its your time.

If you want to debate with him, feel free but you're just barking at the moon.
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:43 AM   #304
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ya i like the caddys but on your last note i think people are coming down is because the only real valid point is the paint. (then you go buy a vehicle who is painted by the same company).

i once had a young lady say she was a veterinarian and couldn't understand why people who knew her, knew she liked hamburgers, and said she wasn't.

i think this is the same or similar situation.
Did you mean vegetarian here? That's all i care about in this post
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Covered this earlier in this thread with REAL times. Not paper. 12.1-12.3 averaging for the ZL1. 12.3-12.5 averaging for the corvette. ZL1 has launch control. Vette has run flats and 87 pump gas. Hmm. Anyone with half a brain could tell you thats an even match considering that.

So 08 BASE VETTES are putting faster times than the ZL1? Testing with run flats? No launch control? ROFL! Why would you buy a ZL1?

I know I'm wasting my time but eh.

Why people buy ZL1s?

Because it has 580 hp/556 tq, they like the look, it has back seats, they want the state-of-the-art suspension, and/or they like Camaros.

Is the LS3 in the 08 faster? Depends on the driver. 1/4 mi and 0-60s are close by less than a second.
Is it better than a corvette? Depends on your requirements. Apples/oranges.
Are you happy with your corvette? Yes.
Is it overpriced? Matter of opinion. I wouldn't buy one but I understand people want its S/C motor and the suspension which is high tech.


Side notes:
1) Yes, there is a TSB out on the spoiler paint chip issue. But you don't prove it. Well, here's your proof. Its TSB P10319. Also, a lot of people did have this issue.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141499
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134331
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95588
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221605

2) Insurance cheaper in the corvette? Yep. But only because of age and insurance companies believe drivers won't speed in them (go fig). I know as I called my insurance agent a few weeks ago when I was hunting one.
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Your still here? The guys over on the Corvette forum are dieing to welcome you. They have a meet planned next week where they all drive around a parking lot waiving at each other. Sounds like fun, better hurry over there.
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So you got rid of your Camaro?

Nobody cares.

Enjoy the Corvette.
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