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Old 07-09-2013, 06:08 PM   #1
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Easiest way to remove the oil pan?



Undo pan bolts, undo motor mounts, lift on engine an inch with no problems?
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:15 PM   #2
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subscribed... although upon re-reading some stuff... it doesn't look good.
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:29 PM   #3
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I've never done it. But I assume it couldn't be much more than that.
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:31 PM   #4
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subscribed... although upon re-reading some stuff... it doesn't look good.


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I've never done it. But I assume it couldn't be much more than that.
I think you'll be surprised. lol

But I hold out hope.
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:34 PM   #5
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I hope for your sake its that easy! Let us know. Good luck.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:05 PM   #6
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Cut through bottom brace. Remove pan. re-weld brace?

I think this is a good question for the help desk.. lol.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:10 PM   #7
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Unfortunately, that's the help desk stance as well . I was hoping someone had some kind of clever suggestion that no one else had thought of yet! I think CGT (or CFD.. always get them confused) made a replacement brace when he yanked his pan out.

You would still have to cut, but you wouldn't have to re-weld.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:13 PM   #8
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Here... this is roughly the point in his thread where he pulls the pan. You might have to go a page back or forward, but you get the idea...

It's CFD, not CGT.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=280655&page=8
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:28 PM   #9
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If you wanna hack up your car yea cut the k member, me personally Id just pull the whole motor out stop kidding yourself PQ, take the intake off and the valley cover. I have a plate that you use to hoist it up. I can ship to you when your ready.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:31 PM   #10
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I think his motor is shot.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:34 PM   #11
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I think his motor is shot.
I disagree. He can be back on top with a little caution here.
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If you wanna hack up your car yea cut the k member, me personally Id just pull the whole motor out stop kidding yourself PQ, take the intake off and the valley cover. I have a plate that you use to hoist it up. I can ship to you when your ready.
PQ if you have access to a cherry picker this isn't so bad. Use his plate, unbolt the tranny, and pull it out the top. Just wrenching from that point. Not what you're hoping for I know, but it's not such a bad deal. A solid weekend making sure everything is ok, and replacing what needs replaced and you'll sleep sooooo much better in the long run.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:57 PM   #13
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Here... this is roughly the point in his thread where he pulls the pan. You might have to go a page back or forward, but you get the idea...

It's CFD, not CGT.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=280655&page=8
Sheesh......... what a ****ed up design.

Pump first. I gotta do that anyway. Might as well make it the first thing.
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:18 PM   #14
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I haven't looked specifically at the 5th Gen Camaro but we just did this to my '69 about a month ago. Maybe it will work on the 5th Gen.
-Put the car in the air
-Undo cat-back from headers
-used a jack with a small piece of wood under the oil pan to help lift motor
-undo motor mounts
-jack up motor as high as you can before transmission hits tunnel or headers hit
-put a small block of wood in between the motor mount and engine
-lower the motor back onto the piece of wood you put on the motor mount

That gave us about 2" or so to work with. It wasn't fun but it worked. There was just enough room to get the pan out and back in. Took a little cussing and extra sweat but we got it. My dad used to do this all day long back in the day but that was back we used the smaller Muncie 4-speed. Now the Tremec 5-speed takes up all the room in the transmission tunnel.

In my case my dip stick got turned some and tangled up in my rotating assembly. It ate up about 6" of the stick and left about 4 pieces of metal and no telling how many shavings I couldn't see.
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:40 PM   #15
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I just had my oil pan gasket replaced last week, I had a small leak for about two years (since my cam install). I waited because I knew it was a PITA job, we dropped the front sub frame to replace it. Really a ridiculous design... Best of luck PQ!!!
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I just had my oil pan gasket replaced last week, I had a small leak for about two years (since my cam install). I waited because I knew it was a PITA job, we dropped the front sub frame to replace it. Really a ridiculous design... Best of luck PQ!!!
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lift motor, remove pan.
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Old 07-09-2013, 11:43 PM   #18
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lift motor, remove pan.
How far sir? I was looking tonight while I was changing out my exhaust... It doesn't look like it needs to move much before you can get it out.
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I made the brace under the pan removable. Cut it out, welded tabs on it, and drilled the necessary holes. I still have to raise the engine just a bit to get it out because the pan has to go over the power steering rack to come out but it can be done very quickly now. I was a little worried about losing some structural rigidity but there is another crossmember about a foot ahead of it where the power steering rack is.
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Old 07-10-2013, 01:21 AM   #20
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If you are just replacing the oil pump, read robertway's how to on the ls3 cam swap. He spells it out with pictures even!!!
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Just use a transverse engine support up top remove the subframe bolts and let it hang. That's how we do bmws


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Old 07-10-2013, 03:35 AM   #22
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This is what I thought pretty much. It would be nice if it were easier to do.
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I must have missed something.
Why PQ are you wanting to remove your pan?
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He's hunting for metal shavings unfortunately...
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I must have missed something.
Why PQ are you wanting to remove your pan?
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