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Old 07-10-2013, 12:38 PM   #1
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Question about clear bra??

So I have decided to get the self healing clear bra installed. My question is what parts of the car side do I need to protect the rock chips from the front tires? My installer said the gill area and right behind the front tires. I was thinking the entire door needed covering??

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Old 07-10-2013, 01:05 PM   #2
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When I had mine installed on my 2011, the local installer reccomended the front facia, the mirrors, and the gills as those being the areas most hit by stones, etc.
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Old 07-10-2013, 01:14 PM   #3
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Mine covered the whole front end and like a little more than 1/4 of the hood and also the side mirrors. To protect the gill area I recently bought the rpi stealth mud guards and it really helps.
I love my clear bra the only con is that you have to clean the edges after detailing or waxing due to the residue collecting on it but it's all good
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Old 07-10-2013, 01:17 PM   #4
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Besides the entire front end and full hood I had the front fenders completely covered, the pillars, mirrors, and the rear quarter panels up past the gills.
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Old 07-10-2013, 01:22 PM   #5
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For the camaro from ones I have done, I would recommend:

-Front fascia
-Full hood
-Partial fender
-Rear gills
-Mirrors
-Rockers

Last of all please go to a certified installer, I know there are several in NC around you for 3M.
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Old 07-10-2013, 01:23 PM   #6
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I had the entire front bumper area, pillars, mirrors, door handles, area below the doors and the gills. I have 17,000 miles and not a rock chip anywhere. There are several threads on here for different rock guards also.
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Old 07-10-2013, 02:18 PM   #7
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I am interested in getting the clear bra for my ZL1, which one of the 4 choices below do I need ? Thanks !

3M™ Automotive Window Film
Scotchgard™ Paint Protection Film
Scotchgard™ Vehicle Protection Package
VentureShield™ Paint Protection Film
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Old 07-10-2013, 02:38 PM   #8
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I am interested in getting the clear bra for my ZL1, which one of the 4 choices below do I need ? Thanks !

3M™ Automotive Window Film
Scotchgard™ Paint Protection Film
Scotchgard™ Vehicle Protection Package
VentureShield™ Paint Protection Film

Scotchgard™ Paint Protection Film

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Old 07-10-2013, 02:41 PM   #9
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I think the full hood and fenders, roof, etc. is overkill... I've never seen the hood get chipped any farther than a bit past the leading edge, and even that's uncommon. Most chips happen right on the front bumper and upper header area above the grill...the (vertical surfaces) and of course the rear 1/4 panel gill area. Really not going to hurt anything to cover every inch of your car with it for protection, and yes you can get a chip anywhere... but the most important parts are the forward facing surfaces....I have the upper and lower front bumper and mirrors covered and have not had a chip on any unprotected areas yet with almost 10,000 miles of PA roads.
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I think the full hood and fenders, roof, etc. is overkill... I've never seen the hood get chipped any farther than a bit past the leading edge, and even that's uncommon. Most chips happen right on the front bumper and upper header area above the grill...the (vertical surfaces) and of course the rear 1/4 panel gill area. Really not going to hurt anything to cover every inch of your car with it for protection, and yes you can get a chip anywhere... but the most important parts are the forward facing surfaces....I have the upper and lower front bumper and mirrors covered and have not had a chip on any unprotected areas yet with almost 10,000 miles of PA roads.
It really comes down the protection you want and what you want to be left with after you take the protection off. In most cases if you are already doing front bumper/partial fenders/mirrors/grills an installer will usually cut you a deal to do the entire hood (at least I do). IMO that line across the hood looks horrible across the hood from the leading edge and catches things such as polish and wax which, if not taken care of properly, can diminish the life of the film. If properly installed you should hardly be able to tell the entire hood is wrapped, unless you stare and touch it. All I can say is, why skimp when you know for hardly any more your entire hood is covered and you will have protection say something or someone sit on your hood (I have seen it). Fully understand where you are coming from though as 90% of the time what you had done would be sufficient and was what I used to recommend. Just make when you guys find someone to do it that they are certified cause that in itself could save you from hassle, if not properly installed a partial hood can leave to a nice distinct line across is when you go to take it off, one of which can not be fixed by polishing but only repainting.
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Old 07-10-2013, 03:10 PM   #11
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I had Xpel Ultimate installed on mine.

front end fascia, bumper, headlights
entire hood, including exposed weave CF "mohawk"
both entire front fenders (debadged)
both rear view mirrors
both door cups
both gills
both lower rear quarters behind rear wheels

looks great, virtually invisible, can be waxed
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Old 07-10-2013, 03:24 PM   #12
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What colors show the lines the least? I have yellow.
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:16 PM   #13
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What colors show the lines the least? I have yellow.
One of the tricks is to have the clear bra applied and end at the various body seams where the edge will not be noticable at all. A good installer will do this.

the only pace that didn't work out perfectly on mine was the gill area because there is no convenient horizontal body line to end it at.

As fas as the line being noticable, I'd say black or another dark color would be the worst since any polish/wax you apply will have a tendancy to be seen at that edge.

yellow being such a lighter color, you should be fine.
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It really comes down the protection you want and what you want to be left with after you take the protection off. In most cases if you are already doing front bumper/partial fenders/mirrors/grills an installer will usually cut you a deal to do the entire hood (at least I do). IMO that line across the hood looks horrible across the hood from the leading edge and catches things such as polish and wax which, if not taken care of properly, can diminish the life of the film. If properly installed you should hardly be able to tell the entire hood is wrapped, unless you stare and touch it. All I can say is, why skimp when you know for hardly any more your entire hood is covered and you will have protection say something or someone sit on your hood (I have seen it). Fully understand where you are coming from though as 90% of the time what you had done would be sufficient and was what I used to recommend. Just make when you guys find someone to do it that they are certified cause that in itself could save you from hassle, if not properly installed a partial hood can leave to a nice distinct line across is when you go to take it off, one of which can not be fixed by polishing but only repainting.
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Thank you MichiganSRT !
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:56 PM   #16
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+1 for Xpel Ultimate! I love the durability, and healing. I've scratched it with crappy towels and it heals in a few minutes. I'd cover as much as I could afford or be willing to spend. But minimum would be full front bumper and gills, then the hood (full).
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:56 PM   #17
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Question about clear bra?
If it's going to be worn by Pamela Anderson, then I'm all for it.
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Old 07-10-2013, 06:56 PM   #18
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I highly recommend you get XPel Ultimate and make sure it's installed by a really good installer. I had a really good experienced guy do my car and told him to take as long as he wanted because it needed to be perfect and thats exactly what I got. It took him all day and I couldn't be happier! You won't be disappointed with XPel.
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:11 PM   #19
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I didn't know about clear bra, fankly I didn't get on this forum until I had put 8000 miles on my car. If I could go back in time I would have clear bra on the front fascia, maybe the hood, not sure what to say about that except that I have chips on it, but the big one is from wheel well to wheel well from the break in the door down. I have literally 1000's of chips on my sides, basically I have now given up on it.
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Old 07-10-2013, 09:09 PM   #20
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My clear bra was itchy. I go braless.

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Old 07-10-2013, 09:15 PM   #21
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My clear bra was itchy. I go braless.

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Old 07-10-2013, 10:10 PM   #22
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Believe it or not, My first major chip is on the trunk lid right under the wing. A rock hit the windshield and then landed on trunk. Has anyone else experienced this. Getting 3m clear bra Tomorrow! 12" Of the hood was already done getting Complete front facia, headlights, rear edge of front fenders, door edges and jams, gill areas & mirrors. Because I am getting a lot done I'm getting an excellent deal on the installing. I actually thought I was doing overkill and overly paranoid but after reading all the threads I am about middle-of-the-road on what everyone else is doing. It's expensive upfront but will pay for itself in time compared to a new paint job.
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:59 PM   #23
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As people have said the Xpel products are great, just make sure the installer is a certified pro. Either way you go they should be a pro and dont skimp, many guys "know" how to but have not been doing it too long or never were professionally trained. Only problem I have seen with Xpel is yellowing, but with any clear protection if not cared for properly will yellow quicker. Proper install, upkeep and no skimping; those are what you want focus on when it comes to PPF.

As for the braless comment... yes and ftw haha.
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Old 07-14-2013, 04:59 AM   #24
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I had Xpel Ultimate installed on mine.

front end fascia, bumper, headlights
entire hood, including exposed weave CF "mohawk"
both entire front fenders (debadged)
both rear view mirrors
both door cups
both gills
both lower rear quarters behind rear wheels

looks great, virtually invisible, can be waxed
What did this run u on price?
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:32 PM   #25
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I am being proactive on protecting the front from rock chips and I have already talked to the guy that installs the 3M clear bra at the local stripe/graphics place.....$900 to do the front????? I trust the guy to do a good job AND I want a good job done, but is that the going rate is?
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