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Old 07-12-2013, 09:01 AM   #18
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Sounds like the COPO of street tracks with a VIN..... and worth every ¢....
except the COPO is legal to race in its respective class in NHRA rules, the rumor mill has been swirling that the Z/28 doesnt legally qualify for any class in SCCA and the COPO was built specifically to meet that class requirment.

after being enlightened by others here on the board, Z/28 is alot more open to other track events. Making it seem like an even better deal.

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Old 07-12-2013, 09:14 AM   #19
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Most people here don't appreciate a true hot rod. They want back up camaras, memory seats etc. back in the day you would order a car with radio and heater delete. The AC was an option you wouldn't want. That being said if they were making these Z28 with 2013 tail lights I would buy one in a heartbeat. Since the the prototypes came out I wanted lighter cars. I don't want all the extra crap. In fact if I could sign a waiver and get one without the bull**** airbags I would.
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:23 AM   #20
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Disagree. The Z/28 is a pure track car from the factory that will likely beat most performance cars that cost $200,000+ on a road course.
The Z/28 is not for everyone and it sounds like you are not among the people who understand this car.
The Z/28 is NOT a pure track car. I'm a fan of GM and everything they stand for but this is simply not true.
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:34 AM   #21
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Old 07-12-2013, 10:20 AM   #22
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The Z/28 is NOT a pure track car. I'm a fan of GM and everything they stand for but this is simply not true.
At the camaro owners appreciation even and lunch, the GM/Chevy reps spoke specifically about the Z28, and he stated that it's not going to be an ideal daily driver.

I remember him saying it's coming standard with NO A/C or radio, but those may be upgradable options...
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Old 07-12-2013, 10:48 AM   #23
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The way I see the Z/28...it's an awesome car that I'm not going to pay for...and now it gives me a whole new slew of OEM parts to raid. I don't want the whole car, but I want a lot of what it will have.
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Old 07-12-2013, 10:49 AM   #24
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Disagree. The Z/28 is a pure track car from the factory that will likely beat most performance cars that cost $200,000+ on a road course.
The Z/28 is not for everyone and it sounds like you are not among the people who understand this car.
The ZL1 already does that, and if the Z/28 is only 3 seconds faster than the ZL1 I can make that up in HP increases.
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Old 07-12-2013, 10:55 AM   #25
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At the camaro owners appreciation even and lunch, the GM/Chevy reps spoke specifically about the Z28, and he stated that it's not going to be an ideal daily driver.

I remember him saying it's coming standard with NO A/C or radio, but those may be upgradable options...
That's been confirmed for quite sometime now.
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Old 07-12-2013, 10:58 AM   #26
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The ZL1 already does that, and if the Z/28 is only 3 seconds faster than the ZL1 I can make that up in HP increases.
3 SECONDS ON A SHORT TRACK.
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Old 07-12-2013, 11:04 AM   #27
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Don't kid yourself, they will sell every one, and if the production totals are indeed 3-400 there will be bidding wars. I would not be surprised to see them fetching six figures, half of them will go straight to collectors for long winters.
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Old 07-12-2013, 11:05 AM   #28
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Disagree. The Z/28 is a pure track car from the factory that will likely beat most performance cars that cost $200,000+ on a road course.
The Z/28 is not for everyone and it sounds like you are not among the people who understand this car.
I think you are a little delusional myself. No way in hell will this car be able to hang with even the z06 vette and most likely will not even beat the c7 track package that can be had in the same price range.
I'm sorry I love Camaros but world class sports cars they are not.

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Old 07-12-2013, 11:28 AM   #29
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I think you are a little delusional myself. No way in hell will this car be able to hang with even the z06 vette and most likely will not even beat the c7 track package that can be had in the same price range.
I'm sorry I love Camaros but world class sports cars they are not.

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Really? Look at the cars around # 56. Look at #61.

53.Porsche 911 GT3 7:40.00 161'09435 / 1376Walter Rohrl
54.Mercedes SLS AMG 7:40.00 161'10571 / 1620Horst Von Saurma
55.Ford GT 7:40.60 161'04550 / 1538Markus Draper
56.Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 7:41.27 161'12588 / 1838Mark Reuss
57.Porsche 911 GT3 7:42.00 161'06415 / 1395Walter Rohrl
58.Radical SR3 7:42.00 161'02205 / 495
59.Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670-4 SuperVeloce 7:42.00 161'09670 / 1664Horst von Saurma
60.Porsche 911 GT3 RS 7:42.00 161'06415 / 1375
61.Chevrolet Corvette Z06 7:42.90 160'05513 / 1437Jan Magnussen
62.Porsche 911 GT3 RS 7:43.00 160'03381 / 1360
63.Lamborghini Murcielago 7:43.20 160'02580 / 1800
64.Pagani Zonda C12 S 7:44.00 160'02555 / 1250
65.Audi R8 V10 5.2 FSI 7:44.00 160'09525 / 1620

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Old 07-12-2013, 12:51 PM   #30
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At the camaro owners appreciation even and lunch, the GM/Chevy reps spoke specifically about the Z28, and he stated that it's not going to be an ideal daily driver.

I remember him saying it's coming standard with NO A/C or radio, but those may be upgradable options...
Not being an ideal daily driver and being a pure track car are two different things. To be honest, the Camaro isn't an ideal daily driver for many.

The Z/28 does come with a radio.
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Old 07-12-2013, 02:26 PM   #31
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Can I just say this....I LOVE MY ZL1. It is paid for and I can get everything I want in muscle car from it and more. I am getting ready to put some money in mods that will make the Z/28 irrelevant to me and the way I like to drive my car so if this rumor is true, I love my ZL1 even more.
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Really? Look at the cars around # 56. Look at #61.

53.Porsche 911 GT3 7:40.00 161'09435 / 1376Walter Rohrl
54.Mercedes SLS AMG 7:40.00 161'10571 / 1620Horst Von Saurma
55.Ford GT 7:40.60 161'04550 / 1538Markus Draper
56.Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 7:41.27 161'12588 / 1838Mark Reuss
57.Porsche 911 GT3 7:42.00 161'06415 / 1395Walter Rohrl
58.Radical SR3 7:42.00 161'02205 / 495
59.Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670-4 SuperVeloce 7:42.00 161'09670 / 1664Horst von Saurma
60.Porsche 911 GT3 RS 7:42.00 161'06415 / 1375
61.Chevrolet Corvette Z06 7:42.90 160'05513 / 1437Jan Magnussen
62.Porsche 911 GT3 RS 7:43.00 160'03381 / 1360
63.Lamborghini Murcielago 7:43.20 160'02580 / 1800
64.Pagani Zonda C12 S 7:44.00 160'02555 / 1250
65.Audi R8 V10 5.2 FSI 7:44.00 160'09525 / 1620

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And that means exactly... Squat.
2 different drivers and that is a very old z06 2005 model.

Put the same driver in both with same year car and that vette will trounce that heavy camaro.

I'm sorry stock for stock you can't compare the 2.
One is a street brawler and the other a sports car made for the higher speeds and better handing.

Sure you shove enough aftermarket crap in anything it can be fast.. but it's going to cost you.

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And that means exactly... Squat.
2 different drivers and that is a very old z06 2005 model.

Put the same driver in both with same year car and that vette will trounce that heavy camaro.

I'm sorry stock for stock you can't compare the 2.
One is a street brawler and the other a sports car made for the higher speeds and better handing.

Sure you shove enough aftermarket crap in anything it can be fast.. but it's going to cost you.

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I'm sorry I love Camaros but world class sports cars they are not.

Really, look at the list of cars right around the stock ZL1 and tell me if they are not world class sports cars? Many of those cars approach $200,000 and the ZL1 at about $60,000 competed and beat many of them.


Here are some other times to compare and the ZL1 is right up there with some of the Vette's.

http://www.autorooster.com/0-60-time...olet/corvette/

http://www.autorooster.com/0-60-times/chevrolet/camaro/

And here is a 12 Vette it beat by 28 seconds.

163.Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport Coupe8:13.10 150'12436 / 1505
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and only 300-400 1st year.....inside scoop
production sounds a bit high to me...


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it'll be worth it. but it won't be your every day street drivin' car.
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